# THIS IS WAR DAMMIT **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 12, 2000, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713 "2000-10-12T19:58:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![tiggeril](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tiggeril/32/7234_2.png) [@tiggeril](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiggeril)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/21 "2000-10-12T21:41:34Z")
Besides… it was described by CNN as a suicide bombing. Those who were directly responsible are already dead. ---
**Author:** ![RosieWolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@RosieWolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RosieWolf)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/22 "2000-10-12T21:44:11Z")
**andros** is gonna eat me… oh baby… hurt me, make me squeel… NOT I am not asking anyone to do anything I wont do myself!!!.. that’s the POINT… THE GOVERNMENT WONT LET ME… cuz I am a disabled VET now… so THEY say I cant go… you wanna take a poll of how many Vietnam Vets would go and kick some ass if they had the REAL chance to do it??.. instead of some lame ass Police Action??.. volunteers??.. line up behind me… u whimpy assed whiners would have so many track marks on your face …and they wouldnt be from needles… whiney, suckface ditwads… ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/23 "2000-10-12T21:48:27Z")
Rosie-go CHILL. Good god! As IF the US hasn’t done worse. Look at how we acted towards people in Latin America. Neo-colonialism, anyone? ---
**Author:** ![Kvallulf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@Kvallulf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kvallulf)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/24 "2000-10-12T21:51:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RosieWolf \* > \*\ ***andros** is gonna eat me… oh baby… hurt me, make me squeel… NOT > > I am not asking anyone to do anything I wont do myself!!!.. that’s the POINT… THE GOVERNMENT WONT LET ME… cuz I am a disabled VET now… so THEY say I cant go… you wanna take a poll of how many Vietnam Vets would go and kick some ass if they had the REAL chance to do it??.. instead of some lame ass Police Action??.. volunteers??.. line up behind me… u whimpy assed whiners would have so many track marks on your face …and they wouldnt be from needles… whiney, suckface ditwads… \*\* What unit were you from? Tell me that Badass. I most likely have more time in harness then you have time in service. ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/25 "2000-10-12T21:51:52Z")
Believe it or not, there is a rational position that can be held inbetween “Lets go kill everyone in the Middle East” and " 'whimpy assed whiners ’ who hate the US and wish for all its soldiers to die." (Why am I even bothering? sheesh. :rolleyes: ) Get a fucking grip. Better yet, don’t bother asking permission from the government for your crusade. Get your little penknife, hop on a plane, and go for it! Run along now. No, really… ---
**Author:** ![tiggeril](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tiggeril/32/7234_2.png) [@tiggeril](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiggeril)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/26 "2000-10-12T21:52:02Z")
Guin, Andros, MysterEcks, et al. … I guess this is the point where we realize that logic only works on those who have the brainpower to comprehend it. ---
**Author:** ![oldscratch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ed655f/32.png) [@oldscratch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldscratch)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/27 "2000-10-12T21:57:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by friedo \* > \*\* > Oh, fuck you, oldscratch. > \*\* Are you denying that the United States not only sponsors groups to kill innocent civilians of other countries but has done it several times on occasion? While I feel great sympathy for the soldiers bein put in the crossfire. While I’m sickened that they had to die to support the US’s imperialist aims, it’s simply a case of chickens coming home to roost. At least they didn’t blow up our embassy and claim it was an “accident”. Or bomb CNN because it’s a “tool” of our government. ---
**Author:** ![tiggeril](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tiggeril/32/7234_2.png) [@tiggeril](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiggeril)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/28 "2000-10-12T22:06:14Z")
I’m with oldscratch… this is a tragedy, it’s terrible, it’s sickening, and it never should have occured. Despite the horrific nature of this occurence, it pales in the light of that which our nation has inflicted upon others in our quest for global domination. ---
**Author:** ![RosieWolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@RosieWolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RosieWolf)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/29 "2000-10-12T22:19:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by tiggeril \* > \*\*it pales in the light of that which our nation has inflicted upon others in our quest for global domination. \*\* OH GET A GRIP…who rebuilt Germany and ARE STILL paying for it… since WWI… who rebuilt JAPAN and ARE STILL paying for it… since WWII… Who is STILL sending money to Korea…since the Korean ‘war’… who is SENDING money to Vietnam…EVEN WITH OUR GUYS STILL IN PRISON OVER THERE…TO VIETNAM… who GAVE Panama back… after WE paid for it in blood and sweat… when one of you puckheads go and fight for US like I WANTED to… I was DENIED because of my SEXUAL GENDER… then you can open ur mouth… when the anarchists bomb YOUR damm house PERSONALLY… I will sit back and laff at how you said it ‘couldnt happen to you because you live in a free society’… couldnt happen to you because “I” WAS THERE to defend your sorry lazy butt… gave you the right to vote… but you wont git off your ass to support the few who DEFEND your right to sit there and be A COUCH POTATOE… ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/30 "2000-10-12T22:19:33Z")
**RosieWolf** , Justice doesn’t come from irrational frothing psychopaths screaming for bloody vengeance. Lynchings, yes. Wars which kill tens of thousands, sure. Retaliatory murder of innocents, absolutely. But justice, not so much. You’re far more contemptible than the people who bombed the ship in the first place. Psycho. ---
**Author:** ![oldscratch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ed655f/32.png) [@oldscratch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldscratch)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/31 "2000-10-12T22:25:30Z")
I wouldn’t call her worse than the people who bombed the ship That’s a tad harsh giraffe. A loony with a none-to-firm grip on reality who has probably covered her computer in a thick layer of frothy salivia, sure. But, still, she hasn’t gone and killed anyone. She’s only made a number of rambling hard to follow, strangely amusing posts. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/32 "2000-10-12T22:29:55Z")
You’re right, oldscratch. I should have said “if she had any power at all, RosieWolf would be far more contemptible than the people who did this.” Her mentality is (to me) more contemptible than theirs. But, the fact that she’s just an ineffectual turd should not be forgotten. For my oversight, I apologize. ---
**Author:** ![tiggeril](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tiggeril/32/7234_2.png) [@tiggeril](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiggeril)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/33 "2000-10-12T22:33:45Z")
You know, I was going to go and compile links to American history sites detailing the history of American imperialism and the degredation of indigenous cultures as a result, but then I realized it would be for naught. Rosie, you childish dumbass… open your eyes and take another look at the world. It’s never in shades of black and white. ---
**Author:** ![RosieWolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@RosieWolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RosieWolf)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/34 "2000-10-12T22:33:52Z")
> [@](#): > > What unit were you from? Tell me that Badass. I most likely have more time in harness then you have time in service. 10 YEARS, 3 MONTHS, 18 DAYS, 14 MINS AND 21 SECS…so sue me… I didnt make it 20 sumthin years cuz I was on PMS…and a woman… and at the time… WOMEN didnt count for shit in the military… STILL DONT… but guess what asswipe… oh yes… learned a lot of big words while i was in… hahahah… I could still outsmart you outa a paper bag anytime you wanna challenge me… _snicker_ **Giraffe** Justice doesn’t come from irrational frothing psychopaths yup… ur right… am venting… glad u noticed. _s_ **oldscratch** > [@](#): > > I wouldn’t call her worse than the people who bombed the ship That’s a tad harsh giraffe. A loony with a none-to-firm grip on reality who has probably covered her computer in a thick layer of frothy salivia, sure. But, still, she hasn’t gone and killed anyone. She’s only made a number of rambling hard to follow, strangely amusing posts. ROFL… not yet u old geezer… if ya dont wanna fight and defend your turf… then go soak ur head in a bucket. I’ve been ready to defend my COUNTRY since I was born… unlike the perps who ran off to Canada during the Vietnam ‘conflict’… I was not allowed to fight… was the MAN who told me I couldnt… ---
**Author:** ![tiggeril](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tiggeril/32/7234_2.png) [@tiggeril](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiggeril)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/35 "2000-10-12T22:37:52Z")
PMS… right. I’ll remember to invoke my hormones the next time I go into an invective, epithet, and grammatical error-filled “rant” against “the MAN.” ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/36 "2000-10-12T22:40:11Z")
Nah, I have no desire to fry anyone today. Dear, sweet, little Rosiewolf is clearly not thinking straight. He/she’s shouting a lot and seems to be speaking like Prince. For the record, hon, it’s “you” and “your.” Also for the record, I work for the US Government and come from a long history of service to the nation, both civilian and military. I have had friends and relatives killed in combat. I don’t expect you to know that. But the fact remains that they were patriots, and people who thought, acted and spoke as you are repulsed them. As they repulse me. Killing everyone you don’t like is a fine choice, sweetie. But not one a rational and well-adjusted person makes. Thus I have to assume you are neither. ---
**Author:** ![tiggeril](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tiggeril/32/7234_2.png) [@tiggeril](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiggeril)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/37 "2000-10-12T22:42:04Z")
Subtle… elegant… restrained. Well done, andros. (Like you care what I think 😉 ) ---
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/38 "2000-10-12T22:42:27Z")
> [@](#): > > are u DENSE???.. Nothing to add. I just wanted to see that line up in quotes so I could laugh at it. ---
**Author:** ![Kvallulf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@Kvallulf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kvallulf)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/39 "2000-10-12T22:44:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RosieWolf \* > > when one of you puckheads go and fight for US like I WANTED to… I was DENIED because of my SEXUAL GENDER… then you can open ur mouth… when the anarchists bomb YOUR damm house PERSONALLY… I will sit back and laff at how you said it ‘couldnt happen to you because you live in a free society’… > couldnt happen to you because “I” WAS THERE to defend your sorry lazy butt… gave you the right to vote… but you wont git off your ass to support the few who DEFEND your right to sit there and be A COUCH POTATOE… \*\* Do you kiss your grandkids with your mouth? How the Hell did you give me the right to vote? I won’t support our troops? You are an Idiot, pure, plain, and simple. I am not a fucking moron like you who wants to go “Kill em all”. I would not risk any troops on a stupid genocidal mission such as you suggest. Quite frankly, I think your a liar as well. ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/40 "2000-10-12T22:47:51Z")
ditto for this, Neutron. > [@](#): > > when one of you puckheads go and fight for US like I WANTED to… I was DENIED because of my SEXUAL GENDER… then you can open ur mouth… when the anarchists bomb YOUR damm house PERSONALLY… I will sit back and laff at how you said it ‘couldnt happen to you because you live in a free society’… Jesus. 😃 This is a virtual gold-mine for someone who would like to pick this thing apart. However, I’ll just laugh at the whole thing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713.md?page=3)