# THIS IS WAR DAMMIT

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 12, 2000, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713 "2000-10-12T19:58:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![RosieWolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@RosieWolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RosieWolf)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/41 "2000-10-12T22:51:34Z")

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> Dear, sweet, little Rosiewolf is clearly not thinking straight. He/she’s

… am a SHE hon ;\> am thinking quite clearly… and down the straight and narrow path… 🙂

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> Also for the record, I work for the US Government and come from a long history of service to the nation, both civilian and military. I have had friends and relatives killed in combat. I don’t expect you to know that. But the fact remains that they were patriots, and people who thought, acted and spoke as you are repulsed them. As they repulse me.

… am sorry that you have people who fought for your country and are sorry for the fact that they did so… maybe that is not what you are trying to convey… but I am proud to fight for America… and will never apologize for it… I just want the opportunity to do so…

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> Killing everyone you don’t like is a fine choice, sweetie. But not one a rational and well-adjusted person makes. Thus I have to assume you are neither.

I never kill indiscriminately… have never killed anything higher than a cockroach… although some have desperately deserved it…

Lord luv a duck… cuz he caint dance…

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**Author:** ![tiggeril](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tiggeril/32/7234_2.png) [@tiggeril](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiggeril)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/42 "2000-10-12T22:57:36Z")

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I think a drunk rabid ferret smoking crack while tripping before taking a hit after getting run over by a semi truck driven by a post-coital Pat Buchanan would be more logical and sensical than our dear Rosie.

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**Author:** ![Milossarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Milossarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Milossarian)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/43 "2000-10-12T23:00:06Z")

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Is there any lower form of troll than one that uses a tragedy like the U.S.S. Cole as the platform for their trolldom?

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> let’s see… Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia… take ur pick… that is who ‘them’ is… does it really matter?..

Fuck you, RosieWolf. You’re an idiot, and you give Americans a bad name.

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**Author:** ![Junior\_Spaceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Junior\_Spaceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Junior_Spaceman)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/44 "2000-10-12T23:03:04Z")

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[QUOTE]  
\*Originally posted by RosieWolf \*  
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> learned a lot of big words while i was in… hahahah…\*\*

Like “u”? Or do you mean “laff”.

Crikey - I was angry enough about the bombing (and other things going on) that a well thought out rant might have pushed me over the edge. I guess I’m lucky this is all Rosie could come up with.

HenrySpencer

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/45 "2000-10-12T23:03:06Z")

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Ah, I see the confusion.

I have had many relatives and friends fight and die in the service of the United States.

They were patriots.

I miss them terribly.

If they were here, _they_ would also find _your_ attitude to be repulsive.

Just like _I_ find your attitude repulsive.

Sorry for not making myself clear the first time.  
(and Tig, I do appreciate it. Thanks.)

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**Author:** ![tiggeril](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tiggeril/32/7234_2.png) [@tiggeril](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiggeril)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/46 "2000-10-12T23:07:21Z")

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Plenty more where that came from andros. 😉

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**Author:** ![oldscratch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ed655f/32.png) [@oldscratch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldscratch)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/47 "2000-10-12T23:12:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by tiggeril \*  
> \*\*…by a post-coital Pat Buchanan … \*\*

Tiggeril. I’m going to have to ask you to refrain from putting the image of a post-coital Pat in my mind. Now Rush just jumped in… yech…get out…get out…

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**Author:** ![tiggeril](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tiggeril/32/7234_2.png) [@tiggeril](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiggeril)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/48 "2000-10-12T23:16:34Z")

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> \*Originally posted by oldscratch \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by tiggeril \*  
> > \*\*…by a post-coital Pat Buchanan … \*\*
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> Tiggeril. I’m going to have to ask you to refrain from putting the image of a post-coital Pat in my mind. Now Rush just jumped in… yech…get out…get out… \*\*

:eek: :eek: :eek:

damn… where’s a barfing smiley when you need it?

Thanks for _that_ image, oldscratch… now _my_ brain needs a few cycles through the dishwasher.

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**Author:** ![tiggeril](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tiggeril/32/7234_2.png) [@tiggeril](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiggeril)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/49 "2000-10-12T23:17:38Z")

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::blink::

Why the hell did I quote you? Your post is right above mine. Oh, well.

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**Author:** ![Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f04885/32.png) [@Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ghost)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/50 "2000-10-12T23:47:02Z")

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RosieWolf…what the hell are were you smoking when you posted this, did you seriously think you would get the same sympathy as friedo? Go suck up to the posters a bit before making the same post as friedo…sheesh, some newbies never learn.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/51 "2000-10-12T23:47:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by oldscratch \*
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> > \*Originally posted by friedo \*
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> > Oh, fuck you, oldscratch.
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> Are you denying that the United States not only sponsors groups to kill innocent civilians of other countries but has done it several times on occasion?

No, oldscratch, I was saying, “fuck you.” Everybody knows the US has killed people–hell–every country has–that’s what countries do to protect their interests. I’ll leave it up to history to decide if its justifiable. I certainly know that some actions of the US were not. I said “fuck you” because your statement, while blindingly obvious, was incredibally obnoxious. People don’t deserve to have their greef and anger devalued because of your gripes with how we handled things before.

And I hardly think the USS Cole was there being “imperialist.” It was on its way to enforce sanctions against a tyrant. The attitude that we don’t have any business in the Middle East is immature; we have vital interests to protect there, and those interests are of paramount importance if we want to preserve our freedom.

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**Author:** ![tiggeril](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tiggeril/32/7234_2.png) [@tiggeril](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiggeril)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/52 "2000-10-12T23:52:48Z")

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I think oldscratch’s beef (forgive me if I misinterpret) was with the “Oh, my God, how could this happen? These were AMERICANS, after all!” attitude rather than a desire to tromp all over someone’s pain and grief.

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**Author:** ![oldscratch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ed655f/32.png) [@oldscratch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldscratch)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/53 "2000-10-12T23:56:13Z")

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Imperialism-the extension or imposition of power, authority, or influence  
And now you tell me how sending American troops to enforce sanctions against a government that we once supported until it fell out of favor is not imperialist.

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> _Originally posted by friedo \*  
> \*\* People don’t deserve to have their greef and anger devalued because of your gripes with how we handled things before._\*

Which is why I’ve been much more respectful to you in your thread. However, the op (to which I was responding) wasn’t really an expresion of grief and anger. It was an expresion of strangely fanatical loonyism. And this sentance _“Am DAMM TIRED of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA being blamed for everyone ELSE’s damm shit!”_ left the poster entirely open to my criticisms.

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**Author:** ![Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f04885/32.png) [@Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ghost)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/54 "2000-10-12T23:57:20Z")

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perhaps you should stop looking into the spelling and imagine thats the way they speak/accent.

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**Author:** ![tiggeril](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tiggeril/32/7234_2.png) [@tiggeril](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiggeril)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2000, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/55 "2000-10-13T00:00:03Z")

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I think he meant the so-called “reasoning” behind the sentence rather than the sentence itself.

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**Author:** ![BoBettie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@BoBettie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BoBettie)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2000, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/56 "2000-10-13T00:06:59Z")

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> but you wont git off your ass to support the few who DEFEND your right to sit there and be A COUCH POTATOE…

Dude, Dan Quayle has \*\*totally \*\* gone off the deep end.

Zette

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**Author:** ![oldscratch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ed655f/32.png) [@oldscratch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldscratch)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2000, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/57 "2000-10-13T00:09:16Z")

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Dan. Man. You’re really slumming. From VP to posting at the SDMB? Dude, what’s up.

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**Author:** ![tiggeril](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tiggeril/32/7234_2.png) [@tiggeril](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiggeril)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2000, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/58 "2000-10-13T00:11:40Z")

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“Boomerang”!!!

I love it!!

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2000, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/59 "2000-10-13T00:11:50Z")

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> \*Originally posted by oldscratch \*  
> . However, the op (to which I was responding) wasn’t really an expresion of grief and anger. It was an expresion of strangely fanatical loonyism. And this sentance _“Am DAMM TIRED of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA being blamed for everyone ELSE’s damm shit!”_ left the poster entirely open to my criticisms.

OK, well in that case we agree. The OP is a twit.

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**Author:** ![oldscratch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ed655f/32.png) [@oldscratch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldscratch)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2000, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-war-dammit/36713/60 "2000-10-13T00:15:59Z")

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It’s agreed then.

[deep booming mysterious voice] We now know what must be done[/deep booming mysterious voice]

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