# This is what the product would be if Jack Chick wrote Ziggy.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-what-the-product-would-be-if-jack-chick-wrote-ziggy/210332>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 29, 2003, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-what-the-product-would-be-if-jack-chick-wrote-ziggy/210332 "2003-10-29T22:42:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![The\_Man\_With\_The\_Golden\_Gun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@The\_Man\_With\_The\_Golden\_Gun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Man_With_The_Golden_Gun)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-what-the-product-would-be-if-jack-chick-wrote-ziggy/210332/1 "2003-10-29T22:42:30Z")

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[http://aig.gospelcom.net/AfterEden/AE\_Pages/ae8-18-2003.asp](http://aig.gospelcom.net/AfterEden/AE_Pages/ae8-18-2003.asp)  
[http://aig.gospelcom.net/AfterEden/AE\_Pages/ae6-16-2003.asp](http://aig.gospelcom.net/AfterEden/AE_Pages/ae6-16-2003.asp)  
[http://aig.gospelcom.net/AfterEden/AE\_Pages/ae6-2-2003.asp](http://aig.gospelcom.net/AfterEden/AE_Pages/ae6-2-2003.asp)  
[http://aig.gospelcom.net/AfterEden/AE\_Pages/ae8-12-2002.asp](http://aig.gospelcom.net/AfterEden/AE_Pages/ae8-12-2002.asp)

I think this guy is a good candidate for a Lebon award.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-what-the-product-would-be-if-jack-chick-wrote-ziggy/210332/2 "2003-10-29T22:43:36Z")

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Ah, Ziggy. Will you never learn? No? Then BURN IN HELL FOREVER!!!

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-what-the-product-would-be-if-jack-chick-wrote-ziggy/210332/3 "2003-10-29T22:48:21Z")

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Ouch. Nasty stuff. The art is a little better than Ziggy…but that’s the only good thing I’m gonna say about this wretched little product of a hate-filled mind…

(You want a Christian comic strip that had a lot of class? Latigo, by Stan Lynde. Strict Biblical message, but mostly upbeat and cheerful…and with some of the best art you’ll ever find!)

Trinopus

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-what-the-product-would-be-if-jack-chick-wrote-ziggy/210332/4 "2003-10-29T23:27:00Z")

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Kinda same old, same old except:

Cats and Dogs? WTF? Being carnivores I don’t imagine either of them ate from the tree of knowledge.

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**Author:** ![\_possum\_stalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/b77776/32.png) [@\_possum\_stalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/_possum_stalker)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-what-the-product-would-be-if-jack-chick-wrote-ziggy/210332/5 "2003-10-29T23:37:41Z")

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Christianity is sorta funny. Comics are funny (unless they are of the “Terry and the Pirates” type). Why are these Christian comix so NOT funny?

The cat v. dog one… What’s it mean? should I not care about my pets 'cause they’re doomed to burn burn burn on Lucifer’s hibachi?

Are pets damned? I never even suspected.

Is it because cats are pagan?

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**Author:** ![Profane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e47774/32.png) [@Profane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Profane)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-what-the-product-would-be-if-jack-chick-wrote-ziggy/210332/6 "2003-10-29T23:38:25Z")

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The Grapple is my favorite:  
[http://aig.gospelcom.net/AfterEden/AE\_Pages/ae7-14-2003.asp](http://aig.gospelcom.net/AfterEden/AE_Pages/ae7-14-2003.asp)

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**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-what-the-product-would-be-if-jack-chick-wrote-ziggy/210332/7 "2003-10-29T23:41:17Z")

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Jesus created the universe?

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-what-the-product-would-be-if-jack-chick-wrote-ziggy/210332/8 "2003-10-29T23:41:38Z")

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“Jesus created the entire universe?”

What sect of Christianity is _that?!_

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**Author:** ![Sanscour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f475e1/32.png) [@Sanscour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sanscour)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-what-the-product-would-be-if-jack-chick-wrote-ziggy/210332/9 "2003-10-29T23:44:33Z")

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“Fred Phelps!”

“Jack Chick!”

“It’s definitely Fred Phelps!”

“No way, take a look at Jack Chick!”

“Look at all of the threads on Fred Phelps!”

“There are WAY more threads on Jack Chick!”

**Some Dopers remain divided about which of these people is a better example of a really fucked up mind**  
I get better with practice…I promise.

Sanscour

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-what-the-product-would-be-if-jack-chick-wrote-ziggy/210332/10 "2003-10-29T23:45:56Z")

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I notice they don’t show the ratings when you vote.

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**Author:** ![WaryEri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ea666f/32.png) [@WaryEri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WaryEri)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-what-the-product-would-be-if-jack-chick-wrote-ziggy/210332/11 "2003-10-29T23:56:41Z")

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[http://aig.gospelcom.net/AfterEden/AE\_Pages/ae8-21-2000.asp](http://aig.gospelcom.net/AfterEden/AE_Pages/ae8-21-2000.asp)

😛

I love his contempt for those who don’t understand the ‘science’ of the ark.

Is there any chance at all that this is supposed to be making fun of creationists? Or is that just a happy coincidence?

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2003, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-what-the-product-would-be-if-jack-chick-wrote-ziggy/210332/12 "2003-10-30T00:19:27Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Sanscour \*  
> **I get better with practice…I promise.**

HAW! HAW! HAW!

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2003, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-what-the-product-would-be-if-jack-chick-wrote-ziggy/210332/13 "2003-10-30T00:31:04Z")

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I don’t get the third one in the OP. Can someone explain?

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**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2003, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-what-the-product-would-be-if-jack-chick-wrote-ziggy/210332/14 "2003-10-30T00:38:54Z")

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That site has to be a woosh right?

I don’t picture any creationalist saying Jesus created the universe so lunch was no problem.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/13edae/32.png) [@Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Cheatem_Undhow)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2003, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-what-the-product-would-be-if-jack-chick-wrote-ziggy/210332/15 "2003-10-30T00:44:13Z")

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I’m ashamed to say the second one got a chuckle out of me – you don’t have to be a creationist to enjoy the gag.

The rest are the hellspawn lovechild of Nancy, Ziggy, and Family Circus after a mass conversion experience.

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**Author:** ![Short](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b38774/32.png) [@Short](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Short)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2003, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-what-the-product-would-be-if-jack-chick-wrote-ziggy/210332/16 "2003-10-30T01:33:37Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Eve \*  
> \*\*“Jesus created the entire universe?”
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> What sect of Christianity is _that?!_ \*\*

Perhaps we can chalk it up to the “indivisible oneness of the trinity.” (apologies to Monty Python)

Man, those comics are so bad they are hard to satirize.

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**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2003, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-what-the-product-would-be-if-jack-chick-wrote-ziggy/210332/17 "2003-10-30T01:34:16Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Lord Ashtar \*  
> \*\*I don’t get the third one in the OP. Can someone explain? \*\*

Yeah, I don’t get that either.

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**Author:** ![Taran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Taran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taran)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2003, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-what-the-product-would-be-if-jack-chick-wrote-ziggy/210332/18 "2003-10-30T01:50:12Z")

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It’s not really a creationist gag. The joke is that we read the dialogue, and think “These people are arguing over whether cats or dogs are better pets”, whereas in fact they’re arguing over which is more evil.

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**Author:** ![moriah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@moriah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moriah)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2003, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-what-the-product-would-be-if-jack-chick-wrote-ziggy/210332/19 "2003-10-30T01:55:39Z")

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\<sigh\> It’s so sad when people don’t know enough Christian theology such that they can’t tell the difference between fundamentalist ravings and long-held traditional mainline belief.

Please open you Bible to the first chapter of John:

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> 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things came to be through him, and without him nothing came to be. What came to be 4 through him was life, and this life was the light of the human race…

The Word, being the second person of the Trinity (i.e., Jesus) was the person **through whom** all things came to be.  
Witness the Nicene Creed (325 AD):

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> We believe in one God, father almighty, maker of all things, both visible and invisible. And in one lord, Jesus Christ, the son of God, begotten from the father, only-begotten, that is from the being of the father, God from God, light from light, true God from True God, begotten not made, one in being with the father, **through whom all things came to be** , both those in heaven and those on the earth…

And, so says [Thomas Aquinas](http://www.newadvent.org/summa/104506.htm).  
So, if you’re a Christian, even a non-fundamentalistic Christian, it **is** the belief of your faith that “Jesus created the universe” (to put it crudely).  
Peace.

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2003, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-what-the-product-would-be-if-jack-chick-wrote-ziggy/210332/20 "2003-10-30T03:20:49Z")

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This is my “favorite” : [http://aig.gospelcom.net/AfterEden/AE\_Pages/ae7-19-2002.asp](http://aig.gospelcom.net/AfterEden/AE_Pages/ae7-19-2002.asp)

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