# This is where you FINALLY get to do it! Or: The Constructive Criticism Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 18, 2000, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-where-you-finally-get-to-do-it-or-the-constructive-criticism-thread/33618 "2000-09-18T17:00:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2000, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-where-you-finally-get-to-do-it-or-the-constructive-criticism-thread/33618/41 "2000-09-19T03:10:01Z")
Without questioning the motivations of starting this thread (which I’m sure were well-meant and **not** at all pompous, I would just say that it assumes a fact that we can by no means assume – which is, that everyone around here is willing to submit themselves to criticism, constructive or not. It’s like being at a party and having someone say “I know! Let’s all tell each other what _really_ bugs us about each other’s behavior. That will be so educational!” Well, I’m betting a lot of posters just don’t want to play – and I mean, not only do they not want to criticize others, but they don’t want others to criticize them, constructively or otherwise. When I want to know someone’s opinion of me, I will request it. If I have not requested it, I do not appreciate having it handed to me for free. I mean, I’m sure there are several people who have strong feelings about me, my posting style, and my opinions, but I’d frankly prefer them to keep them to themselves unless they are relevant to a particular discussion. Now, I’m not criticizing the impulse which prompted this thread – I’m sure it was well-intended. But I guess what I’m trying to say is that I think each of us has the right to invite criticism of him- or herself, but I don’t think any of us has the right to gratuitiously invite criticism of others. Which is why I’m not going to play. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2000, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-where-you-finally-get-to-do-it-or-the-constructive-criticism-thread/33618/42 "2000-09-19T03:21:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by magdalene \* > **magdalene** doesn’t always preview her posts and sometimes has to add things later. > **magdalene** sometimes makes stupid typos even though she’s a good speller. > **magdalene** could work on writing clearer arguments and not becoming clouded by emotion in Great Debates. > **magdalene** overuses parentheses. > **magdalene** sometimes argues about stupid stuff. > **magdalene** sometimes sucks all the joy out of living. > \*\* Hey, **Mag**! I do all that stuff, too. Especially the, well, all of it. Do I have to leave, too? 😉 Plus I over-use commas, hyphens, bolds, italics, and smilies. So sue me. Really, though, I see your point. Some people are more sensitive than others and I’d hate to have us lose good posters because somebody played rougher than he thought he was. This is MPSIMS, not the Pit. Perhaps this could be best handled by request only to reduce hurt feelings, intentional or not. I’ll start it: Okay, Dopers, I’ve outlined the easy ones. It’s up to YOU, except **homer** , to take your best shot. Here’s my chin; do your darnedest! ---
**Author:** ![magdalene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df788c/32.png) [@magdalene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magdalene)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2000, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-where-you-finally-get-to-do-it-or-the-constructive-criticism-thread/33618/43 "2000-09-19T03:28:29Z")
I wish I’d made my point with the class that Jodi & dropzone exhibited instead of pickin’ on Clogboy. Thanks guys, that’s what I was trying to say. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2000, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-where-you-finally-get-to-do-it-or-the-constructive-criticism-thread/33618/44 "2000-09-19T03:39:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by magdalene \* > **I wish I’d made my point with the class that Jodi & dropzone exhibited instead of pickin’ on Clogboy.** I have **CLASS?!?!?** That’s the best you can do? Oh yeah, I guess that was a compliment. But not one I usually get. 😉 Pick on **Cloggie** to your heart’s content. I’m fascinated how thin his skin is turning out to be! 🙂 The first song thread and **Silent-Bob** reminded me to call my mom. Seeya. ---
**Author:** ![Homer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/df788c/32.png) [@Homer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homer)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2000, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-where-you-finally-get-to-do-it-or-the-constructive-criticism-thread/33618/45 "2000-09-19T06:25:56Z")
::makes whistling sound of something falling down a deep, dark hole:: Wow. –Tim ---
**Author:** ![Homer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/df788c/32.png) [@Homer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homer)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2000, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-where-you-finally-get-to-do-it-or-the-constructive-criticism-thread/33618/46 "2000-09-19T06:28:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by dropzone \* > It’s up to YOU, **homer** , to take your best shot. Here’s my chin; do your darnedest! ::raises eyebrow, squats, grunts, sighs:: How’s that? 😉 Just kiddin buddy. 😃 –Tim ---
**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2000, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-where-you-finally-get-to-do-it-or-the-constructive-criticism-thread/33618/47 "2000-09-19T06:42:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Coldfire: > Bleu Vert, > > Please show me where I attack you. You are full of _merde_. Thank you. Do come again. _No! No! don’t ask him to come…_ ::spurt!:: Damn. Oh, ick. Anybody got a towel? Constructive crit, hmmm? Okay, **Coldy** , wouldja stop being a suave, racin’, investment guru, Euro-glam icon? Enough with racing kangaroos and snazzy Italian crotch-rockets with equal elan? **Handy** : enough with one-liners already. Explicate, man! **aha** : so do you like warm, cheap bubbly or not? Quit dinkin’ around. You’ve been around the block clockwise, counter-clockwise and through conduits the Public Works Dept. hasn’t discovered. Actually, you’re the most valuable teacher teenagers could ever have, feral creatures that they are. **Persephone** : wouldja quit being so stuffy already? Loosen up, girl! **Chief Scott** : Yes, you’re on land. Yes, there are other forms of recreation than museum tours. **Veb** : would you _please_ shitcan the wordy pomposity? If we wanted Miss Manners on Crack we would have _asked_, okay? Veb ---
**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2000, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-where-you-finally-get-to-do-it-or-the-constructive-criticism-thread/33618/48 "2000-09-19T06:44:46Z")
Screwed the pooch on the italics, too. Hell, some days it just doesn’t pay to be satiric. Veb ---
**Author:** ![Homer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/df788c/32.png) [@Homer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homer)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2000, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-where-you-finally-get-to-do-it-or-the-constructive-criticism-thread/33618/49 "2000-09-19T07:11:42Z")
TVeblen: Stop screwing up italics. It’s pissin me off. –Tim ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2000, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-where-you-finally-get-to-do-it-or-the-constructive-criticism-thread/33618/50 "2000-09-19T07:29:48Z")
Homer: While they’re amusing as all get out, can you try to put a cap on the number of fecal-matter-related threads you start? 😃 Coldfire: Can you just keep the posting down a little? How the heck am I ever going to catch up with you if you keep outrunning me? Silly Cloggy. Okay, I’m kidding about that, but you start a thread about criticism (and, apparently, it’s “pompous”, though I must have missed that part), so you’ve gotta expect some flak come your way. By the way… who first started calling you “Cloggy”? I never noticed anyone call you that before I did… ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2000, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-where-you-finally-get-to-do-it-or-the-constructive-criticism-thread/33618/51 "2000-09-19T08:10:12Z")
Coldy, I know that myself. most of the time I’m just posting a quick responce and couldn’t be arsed to proofread. Duely Noted. Tater: Thank you for the compliment! But A few things happened that had me a little worried of overly-advertising my real name on the Internet. Tell you all about it in 2 weeks!!! let me see, where to start… To all the GDers… stop taking things so personal. We can all get along. And to all the MPSIMS bashers… there is a hell of a lot of intelligence in here, and the majority of posters, given the right topic, could seriously shine. To all the BBQ fans (like myself)… what is said in the pit should stay in the pit. dont carry grudges from one arguement to another. You can still think a person is an asshole, but s/he may still agree on other things. Just because you dont like Rap music, dosent make it shit. It dosen’t. It just dosen’t. Dont think less of anyone for liking it. Really, I could say a lot more, but I’m not going to get personal. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2000, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-where-you-finally-get-to-do-it-or-the-constructive-criticism-thread/33618/52 "2000-09-19T08:55:11Z")
I’d like to criticize Snooooopy for his raging self-hatred. And for all of those extra "o"s in his name. ---
**Author:** ![tatertot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c37758/32.png) [@tatertot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tatertot)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2000, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-where-you-finally-get-to-do-it-or-the-constructive-criticism-thread/33618/53 "2000-09-19T09:23:10Z")
**Twistyskates** : Okay, I’ll accept that, but you know I really hate it when you tell me you’ll tell me something in two weeks. I want to know now, damnit! Are you hiding from a loan shark? Did you knock up the wrong guy’s sister? Do you have a stalker? Eeek. The suspense is killing me. ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2000, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-where-you-finally-get-to-do-it-or-the-constructive-criticism-thread/33618/54 "2000-09-19T09:28:45Z")
one of your options is correct. hint: Its not the first one. ---
**Author:** ![tatertot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c37758/32.png) [@tatertot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tatertot)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2000, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-where-you-finally-get-to-do-it-or-the-constructive-criticism-thread/33618/55 "2000-09-19T09:34:24Z")
Congratulations! Do I get to be the godmother? 😉 Sweetie, tell Auntie Tot all about it at DubDope…let me know if I can help, 'kay? ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2000, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-where-you-finally-get-to-do-it-or-the-constructive-criticism-thread/33618/56 "2000-09-19T10:32:57Z")
Wow, if I had known this thread would have stirred up so many emotions, I would not have started it… although I am glad you all realise I had no bad intentions when I started it. And YES, of course I can break my own rules and defend myself. I’m the God of this Thread 😃 Seriously: in my previous (and this) defences, I was merely trying to explain my motivations behint this thread. I promise you that I will stick to my rules when y’all come up with criticism unrelated to this thread. I won’t defend myself, honest. I think it was SPOOFE who asked where the name Coldy came from… I think it was during an ICQ or e-mail convo with Globe-Trotter, or as I still call her, MoosieGirl. We were using silly names to sign off with, and I think I coined Coldy Clogs myself. I think she then posted it somewhere, and the rest is history 😉 ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2000, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-where-you-finally-get-to-do-it-or-the-constructive-criticism-thread/33618/57 "2000-09-19T10:35:30Z")
allow me to sound self-rightous but I think I can lay claim to the Clog-boy name. ---
**Author:** ![tatertot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c37758/32.png) [@tatertot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tatertot)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2000, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-where-you-finally-get-to-do-it-or-the-constructive-criticism-thread/33618/58 "2000-09-19T10:43:02Z")
Yeah, but the sad thing is, no matter what we call ol’ ColdClogs, it’s still a heck of a lot better than his real name. I’m kind of scared to find out what his middle name might be. Probably Dykemunster or Fuckoberner. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tatertot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c37758/32.png) [@tatertot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tatertot)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2000, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-where-you-finally-get-to-do-it-or-the-constructive-criticism-thread/33618/59 "2000-09-19T10:48:07Z")
Oh, and Mr. PompClogs, just because I am posting in this thread does not mean I am posting it for or because of you. Don’t think I forgot that you called me a “whiny bitch” and compared a picture of my son to that of an ape. Bad Clog-boy! No Guinness for you! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Globe-trotter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cab0a1/32.png) [@Globe-trotter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Globe-trotter)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2000, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-where-you-finally-get-to-do-it-or-the-constructive-criticism-thread/33618/60 "2000-09-19T11:29:49Z")
Pssssst, Tater! If you want to punish Coldie, don’t give him any Murphy’s. That’ll _really_ hurt. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-where-you-finally-get-to-do-it-or-the-constructive-criticism-thread/33618.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-where-you-finally-get-to-do-it-or-the-constructive-criticism-thread/33618.md?page=4)