# This is why Occupy Wall Street is stupid.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-occupy-wall-street-is-stupid/605447>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 8, 2011, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-occupy-wall-street-is-stupid/605447 "2011-12-08T01:40:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-occupy-wall-street-is-stupid/605447/21 "2011-12-08T04:29:39Z")

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Easily enough fixed. The response to the call “what do we want” is already so long that another couple of paragraphs shouldn’t matter.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-occupy-wall-street-is-stupid/605447/22 "2011-12-08T05:25:03Z")

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Oh, look, a social liberal/civil libertarian who can’t see any reason for politics beyond the genitalia. No conception of economic difficulties.

Whatever, princess, we’ve had a generation of twats like you ruining the country with your sex-based idea of liberalism. Time to let the redistributionists take over.

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**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-occupy-wall-street-is-stupid/605447/23 "2011-12-08T07:03:52Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> Oh, look, a social liberal/civil libertarian who can’t see any reason for politics beyond the genitalia. No conception of economic difficulties.
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> Whatever, princess, we’ve had a generation of twats like you ruining the country with your sex-based idea of liberalism. Time to let the redistributionists take over.

Perhaps there would be fewer economic difficulties if we didn’t have a hundred thousand births per year to unfit parents who can’t raise their children financially or emotionally? But of course any explanation beyond “this is all happening because Arrested Development got cancelled” would challenge the Occupy conception of how the universe works.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-occupy-wall-street-is-stupid/605447/24 "2011-12-08T07:08:19Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Remember Love Canal!

🙂 Good one!

The rest of this is not directed at **elucidator** , I just put that up top because a good joke deserves some props.

Anyway, all the Obama administration did in this is preserve the status quo. The morning after pill was not able to be sold to people under seventeen without a prescription before, and now it’s still not. That’s it. The FDA recommended that it should be, but the Secretary of Health and Human Services said no. Probably because this is election season and teenage sex is a political minefield.

Everybody needs to remember that all that’s happening is that nothing is happening. If Obama is re-elected, it will happen. But it has to wait.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-occupy-wall-street-is-stupid/605447/25 "2011-12-08T11:34:16Z")

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On the username/post matchup scale, I give this one an 8.2.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-occupy-wall-street-is-stupid/605447/26 "2011-12-08T12:16:13Z")

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RISE UP AND FIGHT!..to implement incremental policy changes.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-occupy-wall-street-is-stupid/605447/27 "2011-12-08T12:30:09Z")

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Don’t have a dog in this fight, and I’m not 100% behind the Occupy movements as I don’t think they have a coherent set of demands and are often hijacked by single-issue protestors… yet the OP is so stupid as to have moved into the arena of the mentally incompetent. The mismatch between the complaint and its target reminds me strangely of when Joey Tribiani got hold of a thesaurus.

> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> On the username/post matchup scale, I give this one an 8.2.

The missing 1.8 presumably being from use of word “Robot” where “Tool” would be more appropriate.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-occupy-wall-street-is-stupid/605447/28 "2011-12-08T14:29:43Z")

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Remember the good ol’ days when we could just blame Bush for everything?

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-occupy-wall-street-is-stupid/605447/29 "2011-12-08T14:50:31Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Remember the good ol’ days when we could just blame Bush for everything?

He _was_ a one stop shop of incompetence, but I’m not sure how that applies to this issue.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-occupy-wall-street-is-stupid/605447/30 "2011-12-08T15:21:40Z")

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He just can’t resist a good centrist partisan jab.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-occupy-wall-street-is-stupid/605447/31 "2011-12-08T15:27:53Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> He just can’t resist a good centrist partisan jab.

Since when are libertarians “centrists”? I thought we were crazy radicals, but now I feel all warm and fuzzy.

Anyway, apparently my attempt at humor didn’t work. I’ll still be here all week, though. 😉

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**Author:** ![Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19adc/32.png) [@Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lady_of_the_Lake)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-occupy-wall-street-is-stupid/605447/32 "2011-12-08T15:39:53Z")

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> [@Condescending\_Robot](#):
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> And of course, all the self-proclaimed “left wingers” are too busy practicing their drumming at Protestor Fantasy Camp to come back to reality and focus any sort of effort on accomplishing something that actually will greatly reduce poverty in this country and actually is achievable.

Fuck this.

You remind me of my grandma’s old Catholic Priest who stopped a sermon to start raging at the flock about all those people who donate and volunteer to help animals. It was bizarre. They sucked, in his view, because they were putting all this energy into helping animals when they should be helping people.

Again, fuck this. They’re trying to do something about a cause they believe in.

Rag on the people who are sitting at home scarfing Cheetos, pissed at the world and doing shit.

I gotta ask, what are _you_ doing, _Grandma’s old Catholic Priest_ and Condescending Robot??

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-occupy-wall-street-is-stupid/605447/33 "2011-12-08T15:50:35Z")

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> [@Condescending\_Robot](#):
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> And that’s all they do is outcry. They cry over everything and accomplish nothing because they’ve poured all their political capital into a sleepover.
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> I’m willing to bet that, should this decision be overturned, it’s because of meaningful efforts from Planned Parenthood or other organizations with a track record of knowing how to accomplish real things instead of standing around under people’s windows at 3 AM making noise and then patting themselves on the back for being so progressive. How much you want to put up?

Great post/username combo. 😃

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-occupy-wall-street-is-stupid/605447/34 "2011-12-08T19:53:31Z")

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> [@Swords\_to\_Plowshares](#):
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> So Obama’s cabinet makes a poor decision and you blame… Occupy Wall Street? Is there ANY connection between OWS and this decision? Any?
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> It’s like you’ve been fucking your couch for so long, when your girlfriend finally comes over for some sex you start fucking your couch again instead because that’s all you know.

The right has moved so far right taht Obama can pretty much take the left for granted. Are you seriously going to stay home and let the senate and white house flip so that the Republicans can ban abortion and legalize wifebeating?

> [@Sitnam](#):
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> He _was_ a one stop shop of incompetence, but I’m not sure how that applies to this issue.

Well we all like to remember simpler times.

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-occupy-wall-street-is-stupid/605447/35 "2011-12-09T21:04:47Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Anyway, apparently my attempt at humor didn’t work. I’ll still be here all week, though. 😉

Why? Did you quit your day job?

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**Author:** ![lavenderviolet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cdc98d/32.png) [@lavenderviolet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lavenderviolet)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2011, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-occupy-wall-street-is-stupid/605447/36 "2011-12-10T00:08:00Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Or would it? How unlikely might it be for a young dude to stroll into the pharmacy and buy a few doses, either in haste to forstall consequences, or at leisure in hopeful speculation. Beats hell out of carrying a rubber in your wallet. Classier, too.

Emergency contraception is also less effective at preventing pregnancy than condoms, it’s worth noting. Plus if a girl was going through a “I want a baby so I’ll have someone to love me” thing (something that does happen sometimes with teens who haven’t thought realistically about teen pregnancy), it would be very easy for her to trick a guy into impregnating her by pretending to take emergency contraception or taking it and then vomiting it up.

You could argue that maybe that’s a reason not to make emergency contraception as easy to get as condoms: the likely scenario that teens would use it in place of more reliable contraception rather than the way it was meant to be used (as a backup to failed contraception). Even pregnancy risk aside, the lack of STD protection would be another reason that it could be problematic if teens were using emergency contraception in place of condoms.

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**Author:** ![Dolomite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8491ac/32.png) [@Dolomite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dolomite)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2011, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-occupy-wall-street-is-stupid/605447/37 "2011-12-10T00:41:53Z")

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> [@Condescending\_Robot](#):
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> But of course any explanation beyond “this is all happening because Arrested Development got cancelled” would challenge the Occupy conception of how the universe works.

2013 will be the end of our long national nightmare.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2011, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-occupy-wall-street-is-stupid/605447/38 "2011-12-10T22:41:12Z")

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“Not only is Obama a Kenyan Socialist who wants to destroy American Exceptionalism, he’d give the Abortion Pill to 11-year-old girls! He’s a monster!”

Vote for (fill in name of pissheaded opponent here)! He’s not ashamed to say he’s a Christian!!!"  
I am sorry that we won’t be seeing that ad in the upcoming campaign.

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**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-occupy-wall-street-is-stupid/605447/39 "2011-12-11T04:44:49Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> “Not only is Obama a Kenyan Socialist who wants to destroy American Exceptionalism, he’d give the Abortion Pill to 11-year-old girls! He’s a monster!”
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> Vote for (fill in name of pissheaded opponent here)! He’s not ashamed to say he’s a Christian!!!"  
> I am sorry that we won’t be seeing that ad in the upcoming campaign.

Ah, the old “Obama has to keep selling out sane values because otherwise he might not get elected by insane people” argument. We’re on year four of this now, when is the part where the huge puppetmaster strategy ends and the alleged Liberal Jesus shows up?

Is it so hard to accept that maybe Your New Bicycle really doesn’t give a shit, and/or was telling the truth when he bragged about his “strong Christian faith?”

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-occupy-wall-street-is-stupid/605447/40 "2011-12-11T10:32:34Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> Whatever, princess, we’ve had a generation of twats like you ruining the country with your sex-based idea of liberalism. Time to let the redistributionists take over.

I, for one, am strongly in favour of redistributing sex.

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