# This is why we can't have nice things: asshole tourists in Japan **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 1, 2024, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-cant-have-nice-things-asshole-tourists-in-japan/1002391 "2024-06-01T21:03:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2026, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-cant-have-nice-things-asshole-tourists-in-japan/1002391/221 "2026-04-11T03:11:12Z")
> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#): > > How do I notify the moderators that there’s a problem with post #216 in the “This is why we can’t have nice things: asshole tourists in Japan” thread”? Yeah, whatever. Go on and cry about it. See how far it gets you, you eugenicist shitwit. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2026, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-cant-have-nice-things-asshole-tourists-in-japan/1002391/222 "2026-04-11T05:43:13Z")
> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#): > > How do I notify the moderators that there’s a problem with post #216 in the “This is why we can’t have nice things: asshole tourists in Japan” thread”? > ​​​ Keep being passive aggressive and they’ll eventually figure it out. It may take a while. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2026, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-cant-have-nice-things-asshole-tourists-in-japan/1002391/223 "2026-04-11T08:09:32Z")
> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#): > > How do I notify the moderators “Joined Jul 4, 1999” I don’t know, have you tried trolling _harder_? ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2026, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-cant-have-nice-things-asshole-tourists-in-japan/1002391/224 "2026-04-11T09:07:05Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > “Joined Jul 4, 1999” It’s taking longer than we thought. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2026, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-cant-have-nice-things-asshole-tourists-in-japan/1002391/225 "2026-04-11T14:45:49Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > No it doesn’t and no it isn’t. That’s some eugenics-adjacent bull shit and you can fuck right off with it. If you really think that the Earth isn’t massively overpopulated you are a fucking moron. > The Earth is already operating beyond its capacity to sustainably support the global population, according to new research highlighting growing strain on food systems, climate stability, and human well-being. Despite this, researchers say that slowing population growth and increasing global awareness could still help reduce long-term risks. > > Published in _Environmental Research Letters_, the study concludes that human activity has exceeded the planet’s long-term limits. If current patterns of consumption continue, environmental and social pressures are expected to intensify across the world. [https://scitechdaily.com/scientists-warn-humanity-has-pushed-the-planet-past-its-limits/](https://scitechdaily.com/scientists-warn-humanity-has-pushed-the-planet-past-its-limits/) ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2026, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-cant-have-nice-things-asshole-tourists-in-japan/1002391/226 "2026-04-11T17:19:02Z")
The issue is how to reduce population without crashing an economic system that demands continuous growth. We have threads and threads on that. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2026, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-cant-have-nice-things-asshole-tourists-in-japan/1002391/227 "2026-04-11T17:56:11Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > The issue is how to reduce population without crashing an economic system that demands continuous growth. Yes, this. And saying that the Earth’s human population needs to be somewhat less does not make one a “eugenicist shitwit.” Talk about an overreaction on someone’s part. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2026, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-cant-have-nice-things-asshole-tourists-in-japan/1002391/228 "2026-04-11T18:08:15Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > And saying that the Earth’s human population needs to be somewhat less does not make one a “eugenicist shitwit.” You’re right. I apologize. It makes you an eco-fascist shitwit. ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2026, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-cant-have-nice-things-asshole-tourists-in-japan/1002391/229 "2026-04-11T18:25:59Z")
Maybe not THE crappiest apology I’ve ever seen, but definitely in the top 12.87%. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2026, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-cant-have-nice-things-asshole-tourists-in-japan/1002391/230 "2026-04-11T22:50:24Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > eco-fascist shitwit. Well, you do you, sunshine. Fuck the environment, amiright? ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2026, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-cant-have-nice-things-asshole-tourists-in-japan/1002391/231 "2026-04-12T03:59:42Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Fuck the environment, amiright? See, now that right there is the thing. I read: > the study concludes that human activity has exceeded the planet’s long-term limits. If current patterns of consumption continue, environmental and social pressures are expected to intensify across the world. …and I think, “Well, gee, I guess we ought to change our patterns of consumption, maybe move to more sustainable/less environmental taxing forms of energy, make cities more livable so that people can get around without the need for gas-powered cars and open arable farmland for agriculture, and better yet stop growing crops to feed methane-producing cattle (less livestock, more agriculture), etc, etc. We could make our societies more equitable while we’re at it. Call it a ‘green new deal’ or something.” Or, you know, we could just go on about how “dangerously overpopulated” the Earth is, as if that’s not a call for _de-population_. At which point, well, I have to ask: de-populate where? And whom? What sort of people do you suggest we “wind down” and how? It’s eco-fascist propaganda. It’s just one step removed from eugenics. I mean, really, fuck every last one of you who _still_ can’t make those connections. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2026, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-cant-have-nice-things-asshole-tourists-in-japan/1002391/232 "2026-04-12T07:29:38Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > Or, you know, we could just go on about how “dangerously overpopulated” the Earth is, as if that’s not a call for _de-population_. It _could_ just be a call for letting demographic collapse run its course. No eugenics required. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2026, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-cant-have-nice-things-asshole-tourists-in-japan/1002391/233 "2026-04-12T12:25:30Z")
I suppose ultimately it depends on whether your world view is that humanity is too stupid and selfish to do wise things, and is therefore doomed to collectively do stupid shortsighted things which mostly involve fighting, stealing, or both. Or the opposite: we can grow up as a global civilization, adopt long term communitarian thinking, and _manage_ our way past AGW, ecological collapse, overpopulation, resource depletions, etc., in ways that will last. I really _really_ want it to be Door #2. Maybe it’s my age talking more and more, but I’m just not seeing that happening. We’ve collectively chosen the next probably 50 years to be a time of populist authoritarian no-nothing resurgence almost worldwide. Whatever window of opportunity there may be now, our cultural momentum suggests to me that we (all humanity) is going to epically squander it. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2026, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-cant-have-nice-things-asshole-tourists-in-japan/1002391/234 "2026-04-12T14:28:03Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > > [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > > > Or, you know, we could just go on about how “dangerously overpopulated” the Earth is, as if that’s not a call for _de-population_. > > It _could_ just be a call for letting demographic collapse run its course. No eugenics required. If that’s the solution, then there is no problem. It’s like screaming, “Oh my god, we’re driving dangerously fast!” at the first sight of a T-intersection ahead, completely ignoring the fact that it’s still a mile away, the driver is driving the posted speed limit and seems fully aware of and responsive to their surroundings (not driving erratically), and there is every expectation they will stop on time and turn when proceeding. Because, you know, if the driver keeps going down this trajectory at 30 miles an hour indefinitely… they’ll crash into a brick wall on the other side of the T-intersection. So, no, I _don’t_ see assertions that the world is “dangerously overpopulated” as mere observations that everything will be fine as long as we let demographic collapse run its course. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-cant-have-nice-things-asshole-tourists-in-japan/1002391/235 "2026-04-15T03:04:14Z")
[Johnny Somali’s off to the Big House!](https://www.koreaherald.com/article/10717779) > [@](#): > > Controversial American YouTuber Johnny Somali was sentenced to six months in prison on Wednesday by a South Korean court, upon being found guilty of a string of offenses including public nuisance and distributing artificial intelligence-generated sexual content. > > The Seoul Western District Court said the 25-year-old, indicted in November 2024, created repeated disturbances in public, including playing North Korean music and its national anthem loudly and spilling cup noodles at a convenience store in Seoul. > > The trial, initially scheduled for March 2025, was delayed as prosecutors added charges that he distributed a deepfake sexual video featuring himself and a local female YouTuber. > > “The defendant repeatedly committed crimes against unspecified members of the public to generate profit via YouTube and distributed the content in disregard of Korean law,” the court said, adding that the evidence supported all charges. It cited the absence of severe harm to victims as a factor in sentencing. > > Prosecutors had sought a three-year prison term. > > The court also ordered 20 days of detention. The defendant was taken into custody immediately after sentencing. He was additionally barred for five years from working at institutions serving minors and people with disabilities following his release. The rest of the article is a fun read. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-cant-have-nice-things-asshole-tourists-in-japan/1002391/236 "2026-04-15T12:32:04Z")
Guys, take it to [Great Debates](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-the-birthrate-alone/1029286). ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2026, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-cant-have-nice-things-asshole-tourists-in-japan/1002391/237 "2026-04-16T20:07:45Z")
> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#): > > How can I tell if my complaint reached the moderators? You’ll hear Miller laughing at you. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2026, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-cant-have-nice-things-asshole-tourists-in-japan/1002391/238 "2026-04-17T00:04:17Z")
(oops, double post) ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2026, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-cant-have-nice-things-asshole-tourists-in-japan/1002391/239 "2026-04-17T00:05:52Z")
> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#): > > How can I tell if my complaint reached the moderators? > [@Thing.Fish](#): > > You’ll hear Miller laughing at you. Well played! My second- and third-favorite sites\* have a “Comment Of The Week”. This reply would get my vote. . \*The Autopian and The Comics Curmudgeon ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2026, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-cant-have-nice-things-asshole-tourists-in-japan/1002391/240 "2026-04-19T06:03:20Z")
> [@Johanna](#): > > Guys, take it to [Great Debates](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-the-birthrate-alone/1029286). Aaaaannnnnnd the board’s eco-fascist/natalist(nativist)/eugenicist elements have succeeded in getting the thread locked by the sheer vileness of their commentary. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-cant-have-nice-things-asshole-tourists-in-japan/1002391.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-cant-have-nice-things-asshole-tourists-in-japan/1002391.md?page=13)