# This is Why We Have No Hand Sanitizer

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-have-no-hand-sanitizer/849535>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [March 15, 2020, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-have-no-hand-sanitizer/849535 "2020-03-15T13:53:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-have-no-hand-sanitizer/849535/21 "2020-03-16T19:24:13Z")

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As much as I love to be a vengeful internet tough guy… if he gave up all the 17,700 bottles to be distributed to those in need, he’s been punished enough for me. I don’t even care if he deducts the cost off of his taxes. He’s out 25 large, and knows what a terrible thing he did to profit off of his fellow man.

Profiting when you do something of value is to be commended. Profiting off of desperation, that you helped to create, that is an ugly thing.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-have-no-hand-sanitizer/849535/22 "2020-03-16T19:42:24Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> As much as I love to be a vengeful internet tough guy… if he gave up all the 17,700 bottles to be distributed to those in need, he’s been punished enough for me. I don’t even care if he deducts the cost off of his taxes. He’s out 25 large, and knows what a terrible thing he did to profit off of his fellow man.

IMHO, I’m cool with that . . . mostly.

There are said to be many other people doing the same shit. They all need to be “encouraged” to fess up and donate their stocks too, before Mr. Lawman comes and donates their stocks for them. Colvin needs to be prosecuted and made to pay some penalty, as a warning and deterrent to all the others.

Since Colvin was so quick to drop his schtick and donate, I’d be cool if the DA would offer him some reasonably generous plea bargain. That would help encourage others to do the same while they still can.

I would draw the line at deducting his costs from his taxes, though. Screw that. He oughta still have to pay that.

No rest for the wicked!

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-have-no-hand-sanitizer/849535/23 "2020-03-16T19:44:49Z")

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> He’s out 25 large

And that’s just the hand sanitizer he horded. Plenty of other scarce supplies in his inventory.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-have-no-hand-sanitizer/849535/24 "2020-03-16T21:20:58Z")

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Yeah, I spent a little time looking for face masks today. One skeezy medical supply company, with a handful of 3-year old google reviews saying “they are great” and another handful of recent ones saying “they took my money and now won’t talk to me about where the product is”. All the places that looked legit are sold out, or will only deal with current regular customers. Some vendors on Amazon who appear to be selling unboxed stacks of the things. Like, what?

I’m pretty sure there have been a lot of people like this, just most of them aren’t dumb enough to advertise it.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-have-no-hand-sanitizer/849535/25 "2020-03-16T21:34:23Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> Yeah, I spent a little time looking for face masks today. One skeezy medical supply company, with a handful of 3-year old google reviews saying “they are great” and another handful of recent ones saying “they took my money and now won’t talk to me about where the product is”. All the places that looked legit are sold out, or will only deal with current regular customers. Some vendors on Amazon who appear to be selling unboxed stacks of the things. Like, what?
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> I’m pretty sure there have been a lot of people like this, just most of them aren’t dumb enough to advertise it.

There aren’t enough face masks for actual medical facilities, and part of the problem is average people buying them all up. The medical research facility I work at can’t get more right now.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-have-no-hand-sanitizer/849535/26 "2020-03-16T22:58:59Z")

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I’d have thought that institutional buyers (e.g., hospitals, laboratories, etc.) would have access to supply channels that retail buyers don’t.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-have-no-hand-sanitizer/849535/27 "2020-03-16T23:23:33Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> I’d have thought that institutional buyers (e.g., hospitals, laboratories, etc.) would have access to supply channels that retail buyers don’t.

They can’t keep up. A month-long backlog on face masks as of last 2 weeks ago, worse now.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-have-no-hand-sanitizer/849535/28 "2020-04-03T00:17:20Z")

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[Another scalper gets busted](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/medical-supplies-seized-alleged-price-gouger-distributed-hospitals/story?id=69938363). His supply included

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> roughly 192,000 N95 respirator masks, nearly 600,000 medical gloves, 130,000 surgical masks, procedure masks, N100 masks, surgical gowns, disinfectant towels, particulate filters, bottles of hand sanitizer and disinfectant spray.

He is going to be paid the market rate for the supplies, which sickens me. He should loose every penny he put into his scheme.  
(And he is also a fake cougher.)

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-have-no-hand-sanitizer/849535/29 "2020-04-03T01:16:47Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> He should loose every penny he put into his scheme.

But he already spent it, so he can’t loose it again.

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**Author:** ![CelticKnot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/celticknot/32/3392_2.png) [@CelticKnot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CelticKnot)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-have-no-hand-sanitizer/849535/30 "2020-04-03T17:15:51Z")

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Scumbags who are charging far more than the going rate must face consequences. The problem is, few consumers and politicians understand economics or recognize the law of supply and demand causes costs to rise, and not all price increases are price gouging.

John Stossel:

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqMFBdWkfo0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqMFBdWkfo0)

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-have-no-hand-sanitizer/849535/31 "2020-04-03T17:35:14Z")

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> [@CelticKnot](#):
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> Scumbags who are charging far more than the going rate must face consequences. The problem is, few consumers and politicians understand economics or recognize the law of supply and demand causes costs to rise, and not all price increases are price gouging.
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> John Stossel:
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> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqMFBdWkfo0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqMFBdWkfo0)

He’s wrong. Because as that video describes things, goods aren’t going to where their most needed; they are going where people can pay the most for them.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-have-no-hand-sanitizer/849535/32 "2020-04-03T18:56:51Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> [Another scalper gets busted](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/medical-supplies-seized-alleged-price-gouger-distributed-hospitals/story?id=69938363). His supply included  
> He is going to be paid the market rate for the supplies, which sickens me. He should loose every penny he put into his scheme.  
> (And he is also a fake cougher.)

> [@Ludovic](#):
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> But he already spent it, so he can’t loose it again.

Lose

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-have-no-hand-sanitizer/849535/33 "2020-04-03T19:15:48Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> [Another scalper gets busted](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/medical-supplies-seized-alleged-price-gouger-distributed-hospitals/story?id=69938363). His supply included  
> He is going to be paid the market rate for the supplies, which sickens me. He should loose every penny he put into his scheme.  
> (And he is also a fake cougher.)

It’s not like he’s getting off scot-free just yet. The relevant portion of the article:

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> Feldheim was charged with assault of a federal officer, as well as lying to investigators for allegedly deceiving them when they asked him about the equipment. Feldheim has not yet entered a plea to the charges but his attorney told ABC News in a statement that he “categorically denies” the allegations by DOJ.

That’s what coughing at federal agents and claiming to have Coronavirus gets you.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2020, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-why-we-have-no-hand-sanitizer/849535/34 "2020-04-04T17:35:21Z")

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[Nine tons of commercial bathroom paper products found in stolen tractor trailer.](https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/03/20/819406422/n-c-sheriffs-find-18-000-pounds-of-toilet-paper-and-other-products-in-stolen-tru)

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