# "This is youtube material", depths of human depravity revealed. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 19, 2007, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-youtube-material-depths-of-human-depravity-revealed/419773 "2007-09-19T18:22:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Speaker_for_the_Dead)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2007, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-youtube-material-depths-of-human-depravity-revealed/419773/41 "2007-09-20T02:53:21Z")
[QUOTE=Weirddave] The sad part is that the laminate flooring only had a lifetime warrenty. [/QUOTE] I can’t just let this poor, heartless, but hilarious comment go unnoticed. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2007, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-youtube-material-depths-of-human-depravity-revealed/419773/42 "2007-09-20T02:53:52Z")
[QUOTE=friedo] That’s true. [/QUOTE] You are a zoftig cool person, **friedo**. On the other hand though **Shaggers** what the fuck is your malfunction, you utter cock. > [@](#): > > To be fair, I am very Southern although I don’t live in the South now and it still has a very British influence in the rural areas People still fist-fight openly when they are drunk or to settle common disputes. If only. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2007, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-youtube-material-depths-of-human-depravity-revealed/419773/43 "2007-09-20T02:55:18Z")
[QUOTE=Shagnasty] Joking about what? Someone openly starting a mass fight at the Superbowl could easily be construed as terrorism because it is an international multi-billion dollar event. [/QUOTE] You are quite mad. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2007, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-youtube-material-depths-of-human-depravity-revealed/419773/44 "2007-09-20T03:02:57Z")
[QUOTE=Speaker for the Dead] I can’t just let this poor, heartless, but hilarious comment go unnoticed. [/QUOTE] _sigh_ I don’t get a lot of jokes on this board. Could you possibly explain it please? It may well have to be mono-syllables. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2007, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-youtube-material-depths-of-human-depravity-revealed/419773/45 "2007-09-20T03:05:41Z")
[QUOTE=Shagnasty] Joking about what? Someone openly starting a mass fight at the Superbowl could easily be construed as terrorism because it is an international multi-billion dollar event. [/QUOTE] What’s funny is that once you believe someone might be joking no amount of “I’m not joking” is convincing. ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2007, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-youtube-material-depths-of-human-depravity-revealed/419773/46 "2007-09-20T03:18:42Z")
[QUOTE=Struan] You are quite mad. [/QUOTE] I have no idea what you are talking about. I think this is the cultural difference. My little brother is the head of the canine unit at LSU (Louisiana State University. It is traditionally a sports powerhouse). The university itself has a canine unit with smell and attack dogs, terrorism trained forces, as well as SWAT teams at their disposal) That is just for one university and the campus is quite nice and safe (obviously). They deploy these during major sporting events which may host 60,000 people or so. Sometimes there is someone needing Secret Service protection and that protection is also in place. No one is allowed to start a fight or riot at any game without their ass landing up in jail and maybe prison. Starting a mass fight at a major sporting event is terrorism. Why wouldn’t it be? The hooligans cause fear in 10’s of thousands of people when they do that. What is the difference between other types of terrorism. England is so pussified by muddled, semi-socialist thought that everyone is too paralysed to do anything about it. That is shameful and disenguous to all of its citizens and visitors. Modern Western Europe in general needs to grow a pair. The muddled feminization of thought combined with the masculization of preferred crime is not a good combination. ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2007, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-youtube-material-depths-of-human-depravity-revealed/419773/47 "2007-09-20T03:24:48Z")
[QUOTE=jsgoddess] What’s funny is that once you believe someone might be joking no amount of “I’m not joking” is convincing. [/QUOTE] I tend to write in hyperbole and embedded humor but I am serious this time although it may not read the way that I meant it to. The message was simple. Europeans are much soften on crimes like this than Americans and the American Judicial system would find a way to make a painful charge stick My other point was based on soccer hooligans which I suppose is a minor hijack. I compare it to the Superbowl which has every local, state, and federal agency protecting it. A coordinated fight that was premeditated could easily be construed as terrorism. Imagine if the perpetrators are Middle Eastern, the victims were innocent, and game play had to be stopped because of it. I can’t see how that wouldn’t get someone a huge sentence as opposed to fighting their buddy on the street. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2007, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-youtube-material-depths-of-human-depravity-revealed/419773/48 "2007-09-20T06:55:54Z")
[QUOTE=Shagnasty] Someone openly starting a mass fight at the Superbowl could easily be construed as terrorism because it is an international multi-billion dollar event. [/QUOTE] Wow, terrorism really has a wide definition these days, doesn’t it? **Shagnasty** , you’re talking utter bollocks. ---
**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2007, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-youtube-material-depths-of-human-depravity-revealed/419773/49 "2007-09-20T08:05:00Z")
[QUOTE=jjimm] **Shagnasty** , you’re talking utter bollocks. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Shagnasty] **Many people have told me** that hooligans wait outside of bars at closing time for the express purpose of fighting. [/quote] To be fair, it’s not entirely **Shagnasty** ’s bollocks. (But terrorism? :rolleyes: ) > [@](#): > > I have no idea why that is allowed nor do I know why soccer hooliganism and every other permutation of that type of thing weren’t ended a long time ago. We have gang and terrorism squads to send those types away for good and I am not sure why England doesn’t do that as well. You are aware that England has got rid of 99% of football hooliganism, without shooting anyone nor locking them up in supermaxes? And that it’s other countries that have the major problems nowadays, Italy and Poland for instance, where the police certainly aren’t guys you could strike up a conversation with during a match? ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2007, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-youtube-material-depths-of-human-depravity-revealed/419773/50 "2007-09-20T08:09:18Z")
Judging by the level of overall intelligence, maturity and insight of the average Yutube poster, I have to agree that the act was, indeed, YouTube material. Some day a sociologist will have to mortage his sanity and jump in there to investigate. ---
**Author:** ![Fireclown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f19dbf/32.png) [@Fireclown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fireclown)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2007, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-youtube-material-depths-of-human-depravity-revealed/419773/51 "2007-09-20T08:47:35Z")
[QUOTE=GorillaMan] _…No one knows what it’s like to be a dustbin, in Shaftesbury…_ [/QUOTE] You corner me, I might become a scalawag! ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2007, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-youtube-material-depths-of-human-depravity-revealed/419773/52 "2007-09-20T09:05:03Z")
Sadly, it sounds like perfectly expected chav behavior to me. Logical outcome of happy-slapping. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2007, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-youtube-material-depths-of-human-depravity-revealed/419773/53 "2007-09-20T09:22:29Z")
Slap an ASBO on him: If he ever leaves his house again, police descend with billyclubs, tasers, and pepper spray until he goes back inside. If Scotland lacks ASBOs, just turn his guts into a bagpipe. ---
**Author:** ![WotNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e19b73/32.png) [@WotNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WotNot)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2007, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-youtube-material-depths-of-human-depravity-revealed/419773/54 "2007-09-20T09:56:05Z")
[QUOTE=Derleth] If Scotland lacks ASBOs, just turn his guts into a bagpipe. [/QUOTE] Scotland? Hartlepool’s in England. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2007, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-youtube-material-depths-of-human-depravity-revealed/419773/55 "2007-09-20T10:05:53Z")
[QUOTE=WotNot] Scotland? Hartlepool’s in England. [/QUOTE] OK, the thread mentioned Scotland and I got my geography mixed up. ---
**Author:** ![FordPrefect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@FordPrefect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordPrefect)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2007, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-youtube-material-depths-of-human-depravity-revealed/419773/56 "2007-09-20T13:10:08Z")
[QUOTE=Frylock] Am I the only person who is not happy with the idea of calling this “human” depravity and an instance of exploring “humanity?” This is a marginal case of “humanity” at best. -FrL- [/QUOTE] You don’t see animals treating each other that way. I think human depravity is the only term that works. I do think **Swampwolf’s** suggestion in [post 6](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8994782&postcount=6) would make good Youtube material though. ---
**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/staggerlee/32/3134_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Staggerlee)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2007, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-youtube-material-depths-of-human-depravity-revealed/419773/57 "2007-09-20T13:59:39Z")
Here’s another [report](http://www.thisisthenortheast.co.uk/display.var.1701192.0.man_who_urinated_on_victim_faces_jail.php) of the story. In this one, it says that the victim lived opposite the offender - it was ‘her doorway’ she collapsed in, rather than ‘a doorway’. Also, it looks like the pissing moron thought she was comatose from drink or drugs, suggesting it was perhaps nearer the ‘shave-the-eyebrows-off-the-lightweight’ situation than the BBC article suggests, albeit just a tad grimmer… ---
**Author:** ![Plynck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Plynck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plynck)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2007, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-youtube-material-depths-of-human-depravity-revealed/419773/58 "2007-09-20T16:40:32Z")
[QUOTE=Shagnasty] …I think I would literally kill any punk that disrupted my family experience at a sporting event and many Americans feel the same way. Luckily, we have law enforcement to use rubber bullets, real bullets, tasers, or raw manpower to take care of this stuff for us. …I would be interested to hear why law enforcement is more lax and forgiving in the UK compared to the U.S. [/QUOTE] Because things like [this](http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/10/22/fan.death/index.html) happen? [QUOTE=Weirddave] Things we did do: [ul]Sooth her head with a bag of frozen corn[/ul] [/QUOTE] You doubtless view this as a kindness to a stranger. Others would view this as a missed Youtube opportunity. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2007, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-youtube-material-depths-of-human-depravity-revealed/419773/59 "2007-09-20T16:50:38Z")
[QUOTE=FordPrefect] You don’t see animals treating each other that way. [/quote] I’m pretty sure they do, but I have no cites. I’ll start another thread. > [@](#): > > I think human depravity is the only term that works. Even if you are right that animals don’t treat each other this way, I’m still bothered by calling it “human” depravity. There’s nothing _essentially human_ about this kind of behavior. Humans don’t _generally_ do it, and an entity can refrain from doing it and remain a perfectly clear example of humanity. Arguably, a _better_ example of humanity. “Human depravity,” given the theological background of the phrase, connotes some kind of essential, inescapable aspect of human nature–as though if you are human, you are practically doomed to commit equivalently evil sins. But even if being human is what makes it _possible_ for one entity to treat another like this, that doesn’t mean that it is an example of the “depths of human depravity.” It’s an example of the depths of _that guy_’s depravity–not yours, not mine. -FrL- ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2007, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-youtube-material-depths-of-human-depravity-revealed/419773/60 "2007-09-20T16:52:19Z")
[QUOTE=Staggerlee] Here’s another [report](http://www.thisisthenortheast.co.uk/display.var.1701192.0.man_who_urinated_on_victim_faces_jail.php) of the story. In this one, it says that the victim lived opposite the offender - it was ‘her doorway’ she collapsed in, rather than ‘a doorway’. Also, it looks like the pissing moron thought she was comatose from drink or drugs, suggesting it was perhaps nearer the ‘shave-the-eyebrows-off-the-lightweight’ situation than the BBC article suggests, albeit just a tad grimmer… [/QUOTE] I have no evidence for the following claim, but I wish to register the following: This is pretty much how I figured it went down. -FrL- [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-youtube-material-depths-of-human-depravity-revealed/419773.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-youtube-material-depths-of-human-depravity-revealed/419773.md?page=4)