# This just in: British PM Tony Blair is \*still\* on drugs

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 6, 2004, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-british-pm-tony-blair-is-still-on-drugs/253806 "2004-07-06T17:11:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Avenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Avenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avenger)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2004, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-british-pm-tony-blair-is-still-on-drugs/253806/21 "2004-07-07T20:14:54Z")

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> [@Steve Wright](#):
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> Gaaaaaaaah.
> 
> Blair’s spin doctors have evidently told him that he can’t admit to being wrong, it’ll make him look weak.
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> Trouble is, if you _are_ wrong, and don’t admit it, it doesn’t make you look strong, it just makes you look a twat.
> 
> Personally, I’m holding my nose and voting Lib Dem from here on out. You know it makes sense.

I think it’s actually a decent call. He already looks like a twat, admitting he was wrong just makes him look like a weak twat.

I was alreadt voting Lib Dem. And I live in one of the few Lib/Lab marginals so it’s not a wasted protest vote. Fuck you Tony!

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**Author:** ![5que](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/3bc359/32.png) [@5que](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5que)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2004, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-british-pm-tony-blair-is-still-on-drugs/253806/22 "2004-07-07T21:55:04Z")

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> [@tagos](#):
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> Can’t find any poll on Bush’s popularity in the UK but it’s safe to say he’s giving the Black Death and rabid ferrets in your underpants a stern run for their money.

Cleaning the tea out of my keyboard…

And **rabid ferrets in your underpants** is an excellent band name…

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2004, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-british-pm-tony-blair-is-still-on-drugs/253806/23 "2004-07-07T22:57:29Z")

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A summary of the ‘wisdom’ and ‘honesty’ of our ‘beloved’ leader:

April 10, 2002: “Saddam Hussein is developing weapons of mass destruction. He is a threat to his own people and to us too.”

September 24, 2002: “The WMD program is not shut down. It is up and running. Saddam has plans for chemical and biological weapons which could be activated in 45 minutes.”

November 30, 2002: “Not only do we know that Saddam has WMD’s, we also know he is capable of using them.”

January 15, 2003: “It is right (going to war) because WMD’s, chemical, biological and nuclear weapons are a real threat to the security of the world.”

March 18, 2003: “We are now asked seriously to accept that in the last few years Saddam decided unilaterally to destroy those weapons. Such a claim is palpably absurd.”

April 30, 2003: “I am convinced and confident about the case on WMD’s.”

July 6, 2004: “I was very confident when I spoke to you last year that the Iraq Survey Group would find them. I have to accept that we have not found them - that we may not find them.”

:wally

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**Author:** ![5que](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/3bc359/32.png) [@5que](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5que)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2004, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-british-pm-tony-blair-is-still-on-drugs/253806/24 "2004-07-08T15:18:46Z")

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Okay, a question for U.K. Dopers:

Being the typical 'Merikin who knows not of other countries, what would be the procedure (and time frame) for Blair to have to step down as PM – either by his own party or by being voted out?

I’m wondering how something like that would fit in with the little Donnybrook we’ve got over here in November…

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**Author:** ![Mr.Kobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Mr.Kobayashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Kobayashi)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2004, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-british-pm-tony-blair-is-still-on-drugs/253806/25 "2004-07-08T15:36:03Z")

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> [@5que](#):
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> Okay, a question for U.K. Dopers:
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> Being the typical 'Merikin who knows not of other countries, what would be the procedure (and time frame) for Blair to have to step down as PM – either by his own party or by being voted out?
> 
> I’m wondering how something like that would fit in with the little Donnybrook we’ve got over here in November…

The Conservatives could call a vote of no confidence in the PM, and he would be forced to step down if he lost that vote. This would probably have happened if the results of Hutton Enquiry were too damning, or if he lost the vote on Tuition Fees - which only passed through the House of Commons with a narrow margin.

Or his party could replace him and pick a new leader if they think he’s an election liability. The Conservatives did the same to Maggie. The most obvious choice for a successor would be the Chancellor of the Exchequer, Gordon Brown.

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**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2004, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-british-pm-tony-blair-is-still-on-drugs/253806/26 "2004-07-08T15:39:05Z")

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> [@5que](#):
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> Okay, a question for U.K. Dopers:
> 
> Being the typical 'Merikin who knows not of other countries, what would be the procedure (and time frame) for Blair to have to step down as PM – either by his own party or by being voted out?
> 
> I’m wondering how something like that would fit in with the little Donnybrook we’ve got over here in November…

There are three ways that Blair could leave office.

1. He is leader of the Labour party (who have a majority in the House of Commons). They could remove him as leader - this would force him out of office. There is a procedure for this, but it simply isn’t going to happen, it would require too many rebel Labour MPs. A new Labour leader would then become Prime Minister (almost certainly that big balloon Gordon Brown, who is also pro war).

2. He could lose a vote of confidence in his Government which would precipitate a general election, so he could win that and become PM again. Again this isn’t going to happen, the labour party (wankers to a man) have a huge majority.

3. he could simply resign. This isn’t beyond the realms of possibility. The labour party would then choose a new leader who would become PM (see above).

In any case the US election isn’t going to make a big difference to UK politics (Blair is politically a lot closer to Kerry than Bush)

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2004, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-british-pm-tony-blair-is-still-on-drugs/253806/27 "2004-07-08T16:05:29Z")

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> [@5que](#):
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> (bolding mine)
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> Okay, a question for U.K. Dopers:
> 
> **Being the typical 'Merikin who knows not of other countries** , what would be the procedure (and time frame) for Blair to have to step down as PM – either by his own party or by being voted out?
> 
> I’m wondering how something like that would fit in with the little Donnybrook we’ve got over here in November…

At least you know more than Bush then… 😃

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2004, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-british-pm-tony-blair-is-still-on-drugs/253806/28 "2004-07-08T21:21:55Z")

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After reading the OP, I wonder yet again whether Chris Morris has secretly taken over Alastair Campbell’s old job.

[Brass Eye]

“There’s no evidence for it, but it’s a _scientific fact_.”

[/Brass Eye]

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