# This Just In...Fox News Channel is bunch of lying fucks **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 22, 2021, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180 "2021-01-22T06:13:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 115
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2026, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/2282 "2026-04-05T16:58:43Z")
From what I understand, JFK was responsible for men not wearing hats anymore. At least, he was blamed. He didn’t wear a hat to his inaugaration, and men stopped wearing hats very soon afterward. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2026, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/2283 "2026-04-05T17:00:27Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Maybe a lunch counter was considered sufficiently informal that the rule wasn’t needed, or maybe the rule had changed by that time or in that place. It was apparently taken in the 1920s, so the etiquette was likely well-known and generally followed at the time. Assuming that it wasn’t a staged photograph, it’s possible that it was just considered an informal, or maybe a “public indoors,” location: the Emily Post article notes that in “indoor public places” like airports and public lobbies (or, in that era, train stations), it’s acceptable for a man to keep his hat on (though there’s still the “you take your hat off at the table” bit of hat etiquette). It’s also possible that there just wasn’t a place for men to _put_ their hats at that crowded lunch counter. It’s certainly difficult to say for certain without further context. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2026, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/2284 "2026-04-05T20:52:27Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > At least, he was blamed. He didn’t wear a hat to his inaugaration, and men stopped wearing hats very soon afterward. I just figure it was the 60s and the counterculture took over by the end of the decade. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2026, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/2285 "2026-04-05T20:54:34Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > … It’s also possible that there just wasn’t a place for men to _put_ their hats at that crowded lunch counter. It’s certainly difficult to say for certain without further context. That’s my take on the situation. Unless there were [these](https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XlY43FGB-0k/WUEhDM8Kd2I/AAAAAAAABKM/DwmpZL0TXSswcrNinOTDdAyz8Mc7J-SvACLcBGAs/s1600/hat.jpg) under the counter — in which case the hat would likely be crushed by the customer’s knees — there was simply no place to put it. ETA: I do see one man on the left without a hat. Maybe the establishment had a hatrack, but it filled up. ---
**Author:** ![bmasters1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b5e925/32.png) [@bmasters1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bmasters1)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2026, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/2286 "2026-04-09T09:11:04Z")
> [@blondebear](#): > > I wear a hat just about any time I go out because I’m very self-conscious about the ugly-looking patches of seborrheic keratosis on my temples and around my ears. I offer my apologies to anyone who feels I’m violating any rules of etiquette. And I do, especially when I’ve had a haircut, because I went without one (bare-headed) in the hot sun one time when I was working with my brother and late father, and got a real bad sunburn on my head (that’s what resolved me to, anytime outdoors, be like that; I am also like that in non-eating places when away from home, while in restaurants or other people’s homes, I do take it off for the duration). ---
**Author:** ![fedman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e495f1/32.png) [@fedman1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fedman1)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2026, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/2287 "2026-04-11T19:47:06Z")
but, but, but he played one in the movies! Don’t know if he stayed in Holiday Inn ---
**Author:** ![fedman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e495f1/32.png) [@fedman1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fedman1)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2026, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/2288 "2026-04-11T19:57:06Z")
and now Ruth Chris Steak House has new dress code which includes this: **Hats:** All hats should be removed when entering the restaurant ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2026, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/2289 "2026-05-01T23:43:59Z")
[Newsom’s $787 Million Fox News Defamation Lawsuit Advances](https://news.bloomberglaw.com/esg/gavin-newsoms-fox-news-defamation-lawsuit-moves-forward) > Judge Sean P. Lugg let the lawsuit advance in Delaware’s Superior Court, calling it “reasonably conceivable” the conservative news network knowingly aired false statements ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2026, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/2290 "2026-05-09T02:03:28Z")
They just thought it would never come back to bite 'em. Life is so unfair. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2026, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/2291 "2026-05-09T23:44:35Z")
I don’t think I’ve ever read something like that (a judge denying a defendant’s motion to dismiss). From my reading of that, I’m of the opinion that the judge is siding with Newson. Does it just read like that because he’s siding with Newson on this particular matter and, as such, he makes a lot of pro-Newson points or are all those pro-Newson points representative of how the judge feels regarding the actual case? I didn’t read the initial motion or Newson’s reply, but I’m guessing this covers most of what was in both of them. When I first started reading it, it seemed like Newson’s case was pretty flimsy. I originally had the feeling it was, for lack of a better term, a publicity stunt, but the further I got, the stronger I felt for Newson’s side. I wish more people who have the money/lawyers/courage/ability would sue Fox for these types of statements. I also liked, and I guessing it’ll be a big part of the defense’s case, that the judge shot down their ‘I’m just asking questions’ (cough Tucker cough) defense. ISTM he made it pretty clear that they were not, in fact, ‘just asking questions’. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2026, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/2292 "2026-05-10T01:37:11Z")
I think it boils down to “reasonably conceivable the conservative news network knowingly aired false statements." Which is a more polite way of saying “Fox News Channel is a bunch of lying fucks” ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2026, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/2293 "2026-05-13T00:37:05Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > From my reading of that, I’m of the opinion that the judge is siding with Newson. Does it just read like that because he’s siding with Newson on this particular matter and, as such, he makes a lot of pro-Newson points or are all those pro-Newson points representative of how the judge feels regarding the actual case? Mostly A, with B being undetermined (at least by me). If a judegerules in favor of one side, theruling is necessarily going to include the points the winning side made that the judge found convincing. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2026, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/2294 "2026-05-20T22:02:48Z")
I was curious how Fox News is reporting on Trump’s $1.8B tax payer funded slush fund. I’ll be damned if I can find it on their website. If an orange tree falls in the woods and no one hears it, did it happen? ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2026, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/2295 "2026-05-23T03:35:32Z")
Media Matters for America watches Fox News so you don’t have to. > **[Right-wing media react to Trump's slush fund for allies with unquestioning...](https://www.mediamatters.org/donald-trump/right-wing-media-react-trumps-slush-fund-allies-unquestioning-loyalty-and-some-vague)** > Fox’s Sean Hannity said the Department of Justice “rightly agreed to set aside the patriotic amount of $1.76 billion to settle other claims like this.” > On Fox’s _Special Report_, guest anchor Trace Gallagher [admitted](https://www.mediamatters.org/media/4040731) that “who gets the money and where it comes from is a bit unclear.” > _Special Report_’s reporting on the topic also included clips of Sens. John Kennedy (R-LA) and Jerry Moran (R-KS) asking for clarity on where the money is coming from and “the legality of creating a fund that Congress hasn’t had anything to say about.” ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2026, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/2296 "2026-05-23T04:36:53Z")
Why in hell are they questioning it now? They knew what they were getting when they supported him in 2016, and 2020, and 2024. Did they think the grift would be more subtle? Are they finally realizing that making more money isn’t worth destroying the very foundations of this nation? Nah, they aren’t that introspective. They’re merely afraid it’s going to derail the gravy train. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2026, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/2297 "2026-05-23T04:39:51Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Nah, they aren’t that introspective. They’re merely afraid it’s going to derail the gravy train. The leopard is chewing on their faces. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2026, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/2298 "2026-07-02T17:25:09Z")
Trumps $1B crypto shenanigans are being reported on every news agency except for one. Can you guess which one? As of right now, I cannot find a peep of it being reported on Fox News. They are too busy covering the breaking news that a Republican was booted from a state house chamber (not the US House) for wearing a stupid state flag suit. Big news day for Fox “News”. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2026, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/2299 "2026-07-02T17:33:02Z")
If you mean their news organization as a whole, they’ve reported on it. This article is from a couple of days ago. > **[Trump financial disclosure reveals more than $1B in crypto income during...](https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/trump-financial-disclosure-reveals-more-than-1b-crypto-income-during-first-year-back-office)** > > President Trump reported more than $1B in crypto-related income, including over $500 million tied to World Liberty Financial sales and $635M in meme coin royalties. They even brought up the possible conflict of interest from this. > White House spokesperson Anna Kelly dismissed conflict-of-interest concerns in a statement to FOX Business and said that the administration’s crypto policies are aimed at promoting U.S. innovation and [economic growth](https://www.foxbusiness.com/category/economy). Not saying this shows that they are fair and unbiased on the matter, as this might be buried on their site somewhere. (I am not going to waste my time or inflict damage on my brain by browsing their web site’s main page.) And it might not be getting much airplay on television. (Again, not wasting my time there.) But it’s not the case that they are completely ignoring it either. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/2300 "2026-07-03T22:02:20Z")
Wow, good find. It was not in their top few hundred leading “news” articles, and it wasn’t shown in the new aggregators. I also see it is Fox Business with no commenting available. I think they “reported” on it but failed to leave any bread trail to it. I still cannot find it using their search tool at [foxnews.com](http://foxnews.com) searching for “trump cryptocurrency”. It’s only at Fox Business. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/2301 "2026-07-03T22:16:46Z")
I got in the habit of regularly slumming on the Fox news website back in the days of Doge when I was afraid to be seen looking at any other news site on my work computer. Regarding the Trump corruption, the most relevant article I saw on their front page was [this article](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/libelous-nyt-report-tying-trump-family-government-backed-deal-sparks-legal-demand) about how Trump was going to sue the New York Times for Libel. This is the way they handle most bad news stories. They publish the spin or reaction to it rather than the news itself. So rather than say “report indicates that shutting down USAID will kill millions” The headline will read, “Expert shreads biased study produced by socialist professor.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180.md?page=114) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180.md?page=116)