# This Just In...Fox News Channel is bunch of lying fucks

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 22, 2021, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180 "2021-01-22T06:13:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/321 "2021-05-06T16:40:40Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Tucker’s show isn’t a news program. It’s a talk show and current affairs program.

Same goes for [Trumpywumpy’s favorite call-in program.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_%26_Friends)

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/322 "2021-05-06T16:48:25Z")

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I watch. The News Programs are so biased and creepy they need their own thread which I have been thinking about starting for years.

Panels are curated for maximum right wing nuttery and mimimum balance. The Dems on these shows are not actual democrats while on the network. It’s a shell game where they know they are supporting propaganda. They are not allowed an actual left point of view. They just help provide a fascism-friendly both sides message. Any debates are phony show garbage.

I am so fucking tired of Brett Behr being called real news or fair. The man is not stupid and he knows he is pimping bad stuff to the public.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/323 "2021-05-06T17:40:16Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> I am so fucking tired of Brett Behr being called real news or fair. The man is not stupid and he knows he is pimping bad stuff to the public.

In fairness, many of us thought George W. Bush was a shoe-in for the worst President in US history until the Cheeto-Faced Shit-Gibbon stunk up the Oval.

So … in comparison to those who come after him in evening programming … Bret Baier is Walter Cronkite.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/324 "2021-05-06T17:58:19Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> Panels are curated for maximum right wing nuttery and mimimum balance. The Dems on these shows are not actual democrats while on the network. It’s a shell game where they know they are supporting propaganda. They are not allowed an actual left point of view. They just help provide a fascism-friendly both sides message. Any debates are phony show garbage.

Yeah, they are fond of having people like Alan Colmes (RIP, I didn’t hate him) and [Juan Williams](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/juan-williams-npr-does-not-32908/) as token “left”.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/325 "2021-05-06T20:02:42Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> In fairness, many of us thought George W. Bush was a shoe-in for the worst President in US history until the Cheeto-Faced Shit-Gibbon stunk up the Oval.

Shoo-in.

That is all.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/326 "2021-05-06T20:05:01Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Shoo-in.

Intentional pun?

> **[George W. Bush shoeing incident](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_shoeing_incident)**
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> On 14 December 2008, Iraqi journalist Muntadhar al-Zaidi removed his shoes and threw them at United States president George W. Bush during a joint press conference with Iraqi prime minister Nouri al-Maliki in Baghdad, Iraq. Bush quickly ducked, avoiding being hit by either of the shoes. The second shoe collided with a U.S. flag positioned behind Bush. Al-Zaidi was subsequently grabbed, kicked, and removed from the room by security. 
> Al-Zaidi received a three-year prison sentence, which was red...

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/327 "2021-05-06T20:12:40Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> > [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> > Shoo-in.
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> Intentional pun?

There must be something akin to a Freudian malapropism.

Which is _definitely_ going to be my story for this one 🙂

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/328 "2021-05-06T20:20:25Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> In fairness, many of us thought George W. Bush was a shoe-in for the worst President in US history until the Cheeto-Faced Shit-Gibbon stunk up the Oval.
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> So … in comparison to those who come after him in evening programming … Bret Baier is Walter Cronkite.

So should I be quaking in my shoes imagining who the GOP will come up with for their next POTUS?

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/329 "2021-05-06T20:24:47Z")

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Who do you prefer, Fucker Carlson, Ron Deathsantis, or Ted (no nickname necessary) Cruz?

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/330 "2021-05-06T20:28:29Z")

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I really feel the loss of **[Wes Craven](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wes_Craven)** right now.

He, above others, _may_ have had the insight necessary to tell us whether The Original Ghoul _really is_ dead, if he still lives, or if there’s another character – even worse by design – a few pages ahead.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/331 "2021-05-06T21:36:15Z")

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Ha. I was right there. Things change. Now we know. What’s the floor here?

But the potus change was over a length of time and made real world change.

Beihr is teeing up the prime time lineup every day, serving up prefascist stuff and normalizing it so the later shows seem more reasonable. Pretending balance. He knows it too. I just don’t know what he thinks about it.

He is curating his show just as much as any of the others, towards the Fox message.

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**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/332 "2021-05-06T21:51:34Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I wonder if he even gives one tiny shit that his bullshitting “just asking questions” act that he plays on-air is going to lead to the death of some of his viewers. That he’s directly causing someone’s death.

The GOP is a death cult. Of course he doesn’t care.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/333 "2021-05-07T04:57:10Z")

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Yep. I suspect he must be at least a bit of a vaccine skeptic to pitch his tent so centrally in that camp.

But no, he never gives a second’s thought to the well-being of his audience. The whole premise of the show – “get angry about stuff without getting bogged down with facts or evidence” – relies on him never having such thoughts.

The rubes exist just to put him on a pedestal, and are his inferiors anyway.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/334 "2021-05-13T03:51:40Z")

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Fox may care that their ratings star is working hard at killing their viewers.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/335 "2021-05-13T03:58:14Z")

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Replacement viewers are born every minute.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/336 "2021-05-13T14:53:12Z")

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Hell, completely setting aside the never-ending flow of new young people, Fox & ~~Friends~~ Fellow Travelers are working hard to manufacture new adherents 24/7/365.

We don’t know what the upper limit of their audience / adherents / zombie horde is, but we have no particular reason to think they’ve already converted 100% of the convertible.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/337 "2021-05-13T15:01:32Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> I suspect he must be at least a bit of a vaccine skeptic to pitch his tent so centrally in that camp.

Minor nitpick: Use of the term “skeptic” to describe antivaxers (which I see occasionally in news reports) seems like an appropriation of true skepticism which is founded on critical thinking and systematic analysis. Lumping the likes of Tucker Carlson together with (for instance) staff and contributors to _Skeptical Inquirer_ is unfair. “Antivaxer”, “denialist”, “dishonest opportunist” and “loon” are considerably more accurate descriptions of Carlson.

/off soapbox

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/338 "2021-05-13T16:07:36Z")

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Yeah I was just using one of the standard phrases, but you’re right, now that I think of it, The use of the word skeptic devalues the word at a time when we need real skepticism more than ever.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/339 "2021-05-13T16:15:48Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> “Antivaxer”, “denialist”, “dishonest opportunist” and “loon” are considerably more accurate descriptions of Carlson.

“Opportunistic lying asshole”

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/340 "2021-05-13T17:38:17Z")

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Well-paid Opportunistic Lying Asshole.

Who knew scoundrelry could pay so many so well?

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