# This Just In...Fox News Channel is bunch of lying fucks **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 22, 2021, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180 "2021-01-22T06:13:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/482 "2021-08-23T19:08:27Z")
Not sure where you’re going. I’m saying they’re both trying to push a narrative. I’m not talking about their allegiance to specific people. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/483 "2021-08-23T19:08:45Z")
I don’t know if it has been mentioned yet in this thread, but Brian Stelter, who hosts Reliable Sources each Sunday on CNN, wrote a book called _Hoax_. It details the unholy relationship between Trump and Fox “News.” A very worthwhile – if depressing – read. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/484 "2021-08-23T19:14:55Z")
I know what you’re saying. CNN/MSNBC can criticize Biden, but FOX can’t say a bad think about Trump. I hear you. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/485 "2021-08-23T19:19:14Z")
> [@MyFootsZZZ](#): > > CNN/MSNBC can criticize Biden, but FOX can’t say a bad think about Trump. That is exactly what I’m saying. And Tucker is beside himself when CNN criticizes Biden, because, quite frankly, it exposes the extreme bias of FOX. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/486 "2021-08-23T19:24:10Z")
Ok. I just want to be clear in that CNN/MSNBC have their own bias. I don’t know who owns both companies and who their advertisers are, but I’m sure that can effect some of their reporting. I just go to those sources with that in mind. Most outlets are the same, so… I just remain a little skeptical. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/487 "2021-08-23T19:59:28Z")
> [@MyFootsZZZ](#): > > CNN/MSNBC have their own bias Yep. > [@MyFootsZZZ](#): > > Most outlets are the same Nope. It’s impossible to be entirely unbiased; human nature creeps in in one way or another. For example, if nothing else, we all have a novelty bias that means they’ll never be a news program that just reports every day on heart disease and poverty related deaths. However, in terms of journalistic integrity, there’s no comparison – and that’s implied in statements like “they’re all the same”. The Afghanistan situation is a good example of this. Left-leaning news sites cover the story, try to be as informative as they can and have criticized biden pretty harshly. An equivalent story about trump may not even have been covered on fox at all, and, if it was, would probably have been entirely from the perspective of running cover or “what about something the left is doing?” (Upthread I mentioned the fox website did indeed criticize trump, but the websites of many news outlets can diverge editorially with the TV channel. See the daily mail for example) ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/488 "2021-08-23T20:06:27Z")
Ivormectin? I barely knew the woman. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/489 "2021-08-23T20:10:52Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > Nope. I meant exactly what you said… most outlets have a bias. Not commenting on the level of bias. Like I said; FOX is much worse. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/490 "2021-08-23T20:21:47Z")
When networks are repairing or reversing damage from bias on other networks it’s not necessarily biased. They might be biased for the truth. If Fox bullies the public square into believing that all fact checking done on Fox news is just another “bias” that always acts to normalize fox as just another biased actor. That’s part of the fascist playbook of course. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/491 "2021-08-23T20:56:26Z")
That doesn’t mean MSNBC and CNN aren’t bias at all about anything. That’s all I’m saying. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/492 "2021-08-23T21:04:11Z")
Nobody is saying otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/493 "2021-08-23T21:04:53Z")
And IMHO there’s a difference between a point of view and bias. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/494 "2021-08-23T21:15:27Z")
There is also a difference between making an error and then correcting, and making an error and running with it. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/495 "2021-08-23T21:19:12Z")
Yes, and when you deliberately make an error again and again and again without correcting it, I believe that’s called lying. Which they do. A lot. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/496 "2021-08-23T22:18:01Z")
Just curious. Isn’t Boeing a huge contributor to MSNBC? Also there’s this: > **[Cable News Military Experts Are on the Defense Industry Dole](https://static-theintercept-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/static.theintercept.com/amp/afghanistan-taliban-defense-industry-media.html?amp_js_v=a6&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#aoh=16297574071438&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s)** > > Many former military and public officials appearing in the news have more than a patriotic interest in a continued occupation. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/497 "2021-08-23T22:57:26Z")
What do you think they are biased about? Just saying they are biased is not making any point, unless there is something else to it. A bias can’t be attributed on general principle. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/498 "2021-08-23T23:13:42Z")
Okay, well then I should specify “potential bias”, I guess. I’m not sure bias is avoidable. A lot of people I know would say that MSM is often “pro war”. They were very supportive for the start of the war… not so much with ending it. And I’m not saying that it couldn’t have been planned better, but a lot of people on the news don’t want to rip the band-aid off. This is how it seems to me… I’ve been known to be wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/499 "2021-08-23T23:57:24Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > If you’re offering free apples to everyone else Corral that loose talk! \ As for Fox News: predictably, now that they can’t play the “none of the COVID vaccines are fully authorized” card, they’ve pivoted to questioning FDA procedures, via mysterious unnamed “critics”: > [@](#): > > … “It’s the first vaccine to get that approval and in record time too?” Perino said. "And that has critics asking if the process was rushed. > “Was it?” > > Of course, she neglected to name the critics which are Fox News, their hosts and many of their guests. … > **[Fox News: FDA Vax Approval Was Too Fast But What Took So Long?](https://crooksandliars.com/2021/08/fox-news-confused-was-fda-approval-vaccine)** > > The talking heads at Fox News went for the "let's have it both ways" gambit. Poor, poor Fox News hosts: forced to _ **think** _ in order to come up with a new reason their viewers should be taking horse medications, instead of getting vaccinated! ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/500 "2021-08-24T02:19:01Z")
Wait. Wasn’t “streamline the FDA Approval process to get needed medicines to the public faster” a Trump campaign promise or am I misremembering? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/501 "2021-08-24T02:24:20Z")
> [@MyFootsZZZ](#): > > Okay, well then I should specify “potential bias”, I guess. I confess-I am a “potential bank robber”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180.md?page=24) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180.md?page=26)