# This Just In...Fox News Channel is bunch of lying fucks

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 22, 2021, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180 "2021-01-22T06:13:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/562 "2021-09-15T00:28:49Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> I hold no theistic beliefs and no belief in an afterlife. Yet I sometimes find myself contemplating a possible afterlife experience for Rupert Murdoch and his more disreputable son, Lachlan.
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> The experience I picture is not a pleasant one.

Lol, I wrote a pastiche about what would happen to a 2020 Trump supporter standing before Jesus. Not exactly what you asked for, but I assume it would go something like this:

> [@](#):
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> _“… this isn’t going the way I thought, Jesus.”_
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> _“We’re not on a first name basis, Cody. You can call me ‘Lord’. Now, let us take a look at April 16th. You were sick, you knew you had symptoms of COVID, yet `you still went to HEB, the largest grocery store in your city. Why?”_
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> _“My God-given freedom as an American… “_
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> _“Wait, stop… I did not mention Americans in my teachings. Pops? You ever talk about ‘Americans’?”_
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> _“NO!”_
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> _“Too loud, Pops! Anyway, thought not. Go ahead but note: for this court there are no ‘freedoms’ given to you by me or my Father merely because you belong to a tribe called American. In fact, to make sure our point is clear, you are not being judged on whether you measured to the standards of being an ‘American’, but on whether you followed my teachings, effectively answering the question of whether you lived your life to the benefit of others, i.e., did you do unto others as you wished done to yourself. Understood?”_
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> _“I… I, yes. I think.”_
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> _“Don’t worry about it, son, everyone thinks their tribe is special. They’re not. If I had thought your ‘founding fathers’ had anything to add to the moral discourse, I would have waited 2,000 years to show up. Continue with the question.”_
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> _“What question?”_
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> _“Why did you go to HEB and refuse to wear a mask, even when you thought you had COVID?”_
> 
> _“I had to get groceries for my family….”_
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> _“You bought a 12-pack of beer, a carton of Winstons, and ice cream. And you walked every aisle in the store, no mask, coughing on people, staring at some challengingly.”_
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> _“…”_
> 
> _“You can respond, you know.”_
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> _“… Was that bad? I was told that the fight against masks was a fight for freedom.”_
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> _“Again, you are being judged on the morality of your decisions – did they benefit or hurt your fellow man? And on this visit, you infected 2 people, one of whom subsequently infected his grandmother, a woman who died of COVID 5 weeks after your visit to HEB. To be clear, this effectively makes you responsible for the death of a fellow human being as you purposely denied taking those preventative measures which save lives. I have the proof, if you wish to see it. We **are** God, after all – we can just replay the visit on that big screen over there.”_
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> _“I had no idea….”_
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> _“Yes, you did. You knew how to fight this disease – your tribe of Americans were excellent at science and communications, after all. But you just chose to deny reality, **my reality** , and your lie, and the choices made because of that lie… all spun out of political animus… lead to the deaths of 600,000 fellow tribespersons. Oh, and for you, 1 person specifically._
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> _“You denied your responsibility to your neighbor. You denied me. You denied my teachings. You denied my Father. And you denied the reality of the Universe He created. And you wish to enter our home?_
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> _“Don’t answer. Let us skip ahead to Easter Sunday, April 19th. You went to church, even sicker than you were at HEB. Correct?”_
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> _“President Trump said America was to be open by Easter, and I supported my President.”_
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> _“Yes, and we have effectively spent the last 5 hours going over what a disaster that decision has been for your chances at Salvation, have we not? Going back to that Easter church service: You, infecting 16 people… where did you find in my teachings that a **moral** choice is to bring harm and illness to your fellow man?”_
> 
> _“…”_

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/563 "2021-09-15T00:41:59Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> “Too loud, Pops!" …

Heh. 😁

Yeah, it would go pretty much like that. But I suspect that the right-wing miscreant, accustomed to creating his own reality, would simply decide that the entity confronting him could NOT be “his God” (or “his Jesus” or what have you).

Because HIS Jesus would obviously endorse _everything_ Mr. Deceased Right-Winger had been hearing on Fox News and the rest of the right-wing bubble (not excepting Facebook).

And would never, _ever_ criticize Mr. DR-W. Because that is exactly what they have been promised: that they Righteous and Beloved of the Real God _no matter what they do_.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/564 "2021-09-15T07:26:22Z")

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> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#):
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> It must be horrible to realize you have a president that lies so much. I just can’t imagine what that’s like.

Well, to be fair, Donny Two-scoops doesn’t plagerise – he pulls bullshit out of his own ass.

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**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/565 "2021-09-15T16:52:36Z")

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Melania does the plagiarizing.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/566 "2021-09-15T17:06:06Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> We **are** God, after all – we can just replay the visit on that big screen over there.”

I love this visual, but I fear it, too. There are a lot of things I did that weren’t necessarily bad but I wouldn’t care to see in 1080p from multiple “camera angles”.

> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> But I suspect that the right-wing miscreant, accustomed to creating his own reality, would simply decide that the entity confronting him could NOT be “his God” (or “his Jesus” or what have you).

I also love the visual of them in the lake of boiling blood, refusing to believe what was happening to them, but finding not a single creature, man or demon, who cares. Maybe they can strike up a conversation with the 19 hijackers to pass the time, to share the unfairness of it all.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/567 "2021-09-15T17:30:59Z")

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That was a fun read @JohnT

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/568 "2021-09-15T23:59:47Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> I also love the visual of them in the lake of boiling blood, refusing to believe what was happening to them, but finding not a single creature, man or demon, who cares. Maybe they can strike up a conversation with the 19 hijackers to pass the time, to share the unfairness of it all.

Yes, perhaps the universe is just.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/569 "2021-09-16T01:16:22Z")

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Permission to share this with friends?

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**Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/570 "2021-09-16T01:22:44Z")

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> [@The\_Librarian](#):
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> Melania does the plagiarizing.

As did Biden, during his abortive presidential run in 1987, and also when he was in law school, which is likely what was being referred to in the Fox story.

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> By August his campaign’s messaging had become confused due to staff rivalries,[[118]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden#cite_note-120) and in September, he was accused of [plagiarizing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagiarism) a speech by British [Labour Party](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK)) leader [Neil Kinnock](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Kinnock).[[119]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden#cite_note-121) Biden’s speech had similar lines about being the first person in his family to attend university. Biden had credited Kinnock with the formulation on previous occasions,[[120]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden#cite_note-122)[[121]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden#cite_note-lat-speech-123) but did not on two occasions in late August.[[122]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden#cite_note-Whose_Broad_Stripes-124): 230–232 [[121]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden#cite_note-lat-speech-123)
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> Earlier that year he had also used passages from a 1967 speech by [Robert F. Kennedy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Kennedy) (for which his aides took blame) and a short phrase from [John F. Kennedy’s inaugural address](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inaugural_address_of_John_F._Kennedy); two years earlier he had used a 1976 passage by [Hubert Humphrey](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubert_Humphrey).[[123]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden#cite_note-125) Biden responded that politicians often borrow from one another without giving credit, and that one of his rivals for the nomination, [Jesse Jackson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Jackson), had called him to point out that he (Jackson) had used the same material by Humphrey that Biden had used.[[15]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden#cite_note-aap08-bio-17)[[22]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden#cite_note-nyt091887-24)
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> A few days later, an incident in law school in which he drew text from a _[Fordham Law Review](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fordham_Law_Review)_ article with inadequate citations was publicized.[[22]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden#cite_note-nyt091887-24) Biden was required to repeat the course and passed with high marks.[[124]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden#cite_note-126) At Biden’s request the Delaware Supreme Court’s Board of Professional Responsibility reviewed the incident and concluded that he had violated no rules.

> **[Joe Biden](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden#1988_presidential_campaign)**
>
> Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. (/ˈbaɪdən/ ⓘ BY-dən; born November 20, 1942) is an American politician who is the 46th and current president of the United States. A member of the Democratic Party, he previously served as the 47th vice president from 2009 to 2017 under President Barack Obama and represented Delaware in the United States Senate from 1973 to 2009.
> Born in Scranton, Pennsylvania, Biden moved with his family to Delaware in 1953. He graduated from the University of Delaware before earn...

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/571 "2021-09-16T01:31:10Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Permission to share this with friends

Of course, if you give attribution.

If you do not want to attribute the SDMB, please attribute the Substack article I wrote which contains this item:

> **[The Sin of Denialism](https://thewaythingsought2b.substack.com/p/can-denial-be-a-sin?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=copy)**
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> ... or why Evangelicals should be shitting bricks about getting into Heaven.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/572 "2021-09-28T21:11:02Z")

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Former “Fox Business” shirt Stossel [is suing FB](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/09/ex-fox-host-claims-facebook-defamed-him-by-fact-checking-climate-change-videos/) for not letting him freely post lies and misinformation. They fact checked his content and flagged it, which he calls “defamation”.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/573 "2021-09-28T21:44:53Z")

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I’m pretty sure that, legally speaking at least, it is only defamation if in fact his content isn’t lies and misinformation.

Good luck proving that in court, Stossel. Make sure you save up enough money to pay Facebook’s legal fees.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/574 "2021-09-29T23:26:29Z")

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Hopefully Rudy can offer some pro bono help for John.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/575 "2021-10-06T17:42:44Z")

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OANN is 95% funded by…

ATT.

> **[Special Report: How AT&T helped build far-right One America News](https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-oneamerica-att/)**
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> America’s top telecom giant nurtured OAN, the pro-Trump news channel now at the center of a bitter national divide over politics and truth.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/576 "2021-10-06T18:59:29Z")

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??? So what it ATT’s interest in fucking up America?

Why would they fund something like this, unless they figure that they can ride the whirlwind and somehow come out on top in the future world of fascism?

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/577 "2021-10-06T19:19:04Z")

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Maybe it’s revenge for the divestiture forced on them in 1984?

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/578 "2021-10-06T19:42:08Z")

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Money. Despite the SDMB predelicition for accurate news, Faux News is the default over much/all of rural America. Fearful people who, despite FOX lawyer’s claims, can’t reliably distinguish fact from batshit opinion. Lots of bodies with cash to exploit out there. If AT&T can slice off even a small portion of that audience, OAN is cheap to operate (low cost cast-off DumpsterFire sycophants), there’s opportunity for profit.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/579 "2021-10-06T21:24:07Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> OANN is 95% funded by…
> 
> ATT.

Back when I went in the office (I am currently a contractor with AT&T), I noticed that they had moved the default news channel in the lobby from (I believe) CNN to OANN. My initial assumption was that it was new and presumably more centrist (not that CNN is in actuality that left-wing). Took a while of walking by it to figure out it made Fox seem reasonable. Pretty sure they eventually took it off the lobby TV (haven’t been in the office for over a year now).

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**Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/580 "2021-10-06T22:20:52Z")

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I have been told that they are the only option I have for internet so I won’t boycott them because I will not be without the internet, but oh how I wish I could cancel them.

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**Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/581 "2021-10-06T22:54:45Z")

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In the last six months, according to Media Matters, there have only been two individual days when Faux did not undermine covid vaccination.

> **[Fox has undermined vaccines nearly every day in the last six months](https://www.mediamatters.org/coronavirus-covid-19/fox-has-undermined-vaccines-nearly-every-day-last-six-months)**

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