# This Just In...Fox News Channel is bunch of lying fucks

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**Created:** [January 22, 2021, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180 "2021-01-22T06:13:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/722 "2022-01-11T23:21:07Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> Actually, my conservative Facebook friends post about the Uighars - mostly that Biden isn’t doing enough and it shows he hates religion. I’m not 100% certain they know that the Uighars are Muslim, though.

Yeah, you hear some liberal types cry “_Free Tibet!_”, but I cannot recall any RW types take that up. Probably because it is a librul cause.

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/723 "2022-01-12T00:32:31Z")

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Free Tibet!  
(Limit one per household, shipping and handling extra.)

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**Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/724 "2022-01-12T07:16:11Z")

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Ha, McCarthy getting browbeaten by Sean Insanity.

> **[Hannity Wants the Key Jan. 6 Texts Made Public: Pelosi’s](https://www.thedailybeast.com/hannity-insists-the-important-texts-from-jan-6-be-made-public-nancy-pelosis)**
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> The Fox News host and Trump confidant doesn’t want to talk about his own texts. He wants Kevin McCarthy to pledge to subpoena Pelosi’s Jan. 6 texts if the GOP wins big in November.

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> “Why did the Democrats… pick and choose which Republicans could be on— **disallowing, never before in history, individuals that I selected as minority leader?”** a dramatic McCarthy asked as part of a series of questions designed to sow doubt about the committee’s findings. Two of the congressmen McCarthy picked—MAGA diehards Rep. Jim Jordan and Rep. Jim Banks—each voted to object to the election results on Jan. 6.

Smooth how he mentions the bolded part so that he’s trying to be a part of history, or something?  
Not to mention how dare the fascist dems prevent eventual persons of interest in their investigations to also be a part of them.

Oh but Nancy’s texts, though.  
And here we thought Hillary’s emails were the be all and end all - nope! This is gonna blow the lid off of, well, everything.  
H’yuh.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/725 "2022-01-12T15:34:28Z")

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Criminal: “How come we’re not investigating the mayor, huh? Maybe THEY are the ones that broke into those shops! Anyway, the DA has it in for me. They’re a poopy-head!”

Also Criminal: “It’s no fair that I can’t put some of my henchmen on the police investigation team! No fair, no fair no fair!!!”

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**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/726 "2022-01-12T15:38:14Z")

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Hey Kevin, you know what else was “never before in history”? Members of the United States Congress aiding terrorists in their attack on Congress. Also, the President of the United States instigating a coup in an attempt to retain his office which he lost in an election.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/727 "2022-01-13T06:57:54Z")

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[yeah, same to you, pal](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tucker-carlson-covid-therapeutics-lies_n_61ddb957e4b04b42ab85e471)

> [@bowtie guy](#):
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> … “nobody seemed to care” about white people who had to wait for vaccines in early 2021 because the shots were prioritized for the elderly and essential workers. …

because, there are no _white_ elderly people or essential workers

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/728 "2022-01-13T07:10:30Z")

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Uppity Haitians  
::throws one of the spare lawnchairs across the lawn::

ETA: probably best that I edited that from “launchers”.

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/729 "2022-01-13T18:31:53Z")

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Jeanine Pirro is SO DUMB…  
Audience: _How dumb is she?_  
Well, Jeanine Pirro is so dumb, she…

> **[Jeanine Pirro May Have Just Made Fox News' Dumbest Claim Yet About COVID-19](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jeanine-pirro-debated-covid-19-awful_n_61e015e7e4b04e9d84e15362)**
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> The conservative TV personality showed she could use a reality check on "The Five."

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> Fellow panelist Geraldo Rivera called the pandemic “devastating.” “This is something that historians will look back on and say, ‘My God, this was awful,’” he said.

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> “Uh, that could be debated,” Pirro replied.

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> Pirro’s embrace of falsehoods extends to other subjects as well. She’s a defendant [in a multibillion-dollar lawsuit](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/smartmatic-fox-news-lawsuit-defamation_n_601c38fec5b6905af461a914) filed by voting systems company Smartmatic for peddling false conspiracy theories about the company’s influence on the 2020 election. Fox News hosts mentioned in the suit have [filed a motion](https://press.foxnews.com/2021/02/maria-bartiromo-judge-jeanine-pirro-and-lou-dobbs-move-to-dismiss-smartmatic-lawsuit) to dismiss the case.

👏

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2022, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/730 "2022-01-14T00:54:44Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> Jeanine Pirro is SO DUMB…  
> Audience: _How dumb is she?_  
> Well, Jeanine Pirro is so dumb, she…
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> > [@](#):
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> > Fellow panelist Geraldo Rivera called the pandemic “devastating.” “This is something that historians will look back on and say, ‘My God, this was awful,’” he said.
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> > [@](#):
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> > “Uh, that could be debated,” Pirro replied.
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> > [@](#):
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> > Pirro’s embrace of falsehoods extends to other subjects as well. She’s a defendant [in a multibillion-dollar lawsuit](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/smartmatic-fox-news-lawsuit-defamation_n_601c38fec5b6905af461a914) filed by voting systems company Smartmatic for peddling false conspiracy theories about the company’s influence on the 2020 election. Fox News hosts mentioned in the suit have [filed a motion](https://press.foxnews.com/2021/02/maria-bartiromo-judge-jeanine-pirro-and-lou-dobbs-move-to-dismiss-smartmatic-lawsuit) to dismiss the case.

These two phenomena–Pirro making a stupidity-laden remark, and Pirro being sued–are, of course, related. Plainly her defense to the lawsuit will be, as for other Fox News hosts in the past: _**I couldn’t have done your company any damage because no one pays any attention to anything I say (due to my spectacular idiocy).**_

And the thing is: it could work. She could escape responsibility. She just has to keep proving, night after night, that she’s a moron and well-known to be a moron.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2022, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/731 "2022-01-14T01:00:32Z")

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The defense always seems to come down to

“Fox News is not actually a news organization; Rather, it is a bunch of idiots spewing garbage for purely entertainment purposes, and everyone knows this.”

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2022, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/732 "2022-01-14T01:21:33Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> The defense always seems to come down to
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> “Fox News is not actually a news organization; Rather, it is a bunch of idiots spewing garbage for purely entertainment purposes, and everyone knows this.” -

That’s right. And everyone knows you shouldn’t be automatically charged for entertainment channels by your cable provider\*. You should be able to opt in to paying for Fox “News” the way you opt in to paying for Starz or Epix or The White-Supremacy Channel.

\*for those millions of Americans who do still have cable.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2022, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/733 "2022-01-14T06:19:57Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> She just has to keep proving, night after night, that she’s a moron and well-known to be a moron.

Perhaps part of the settlement could involve the Chryon scrolling _She’s a moron - pay no attention_ over and over while she’s on.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2022, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/734 "2022-01-14T12:16:26Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> [yeah, same to you, pal](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tucker-carlson-covid-therapeutics-lies_n_61ddb957e4b04b42ab85e471)
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> > … “nobody seemed to care” about white people who had to wait for vaccines in early 2021 because the shots were prioritized for the elderly and essential workers. …
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> because, there are no _white_ elderly people or essential workers

Even after all I’ve seen on FOX, the level of racism and hate mongering is reaching a breathtaking level. (For anyone that didn’t click on that link, it’s inaccurately claiming that whites are at the back of the queue and undeserving Haitians are getting all the therapeutics).

He may as well just call them n\*ggers at this point (after all, that’s another “cancel culture” thing).  
There is no pretending about what the show is any more, no “dog whistles”.

ETA: Also, the irony of the headline saying _The Left_ has politicized covid has unfortunately collapsed my brain into a singularity.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2022, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/735 "2022-01-14T12:45:28Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> > [@Folacin](#):
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> > Actually, my conservative Facebook friends post about the Uighars - mostly that Biden isn’t doing enough and it shows he hates religion. I’m not 100% certain they know that the Uighars are Muslim, though.
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> Yeah, you hear some liberal types cry “ _Free Tibet!_ ”, but I cannot recall any RW types take that up. Probably because it is a librul cause.

Heh, in more than one occasion I pointed to the right-wingers in the SDMB to real Critical Race Theory research that investigated China’s treatment of the Uighurs and the research papers were very critical about the injustice. (CRT is not just about race, you dolts).

What I noticed is that the right-wingers still go on believing the caricature of CRT that they get from FOX News and others and willfully ignore that they shoot themselves in their feet by following the narrative that makes them foolishly ignore evidence (and ban the teaching of research that would help them!) just because idiot propagandists have more power now to convince a lot of Americans about what is “reality”.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2022, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/736 "2022-01-14T19:39:36Z")

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My wife was in the hospital this week. I was there every day and passed by waiting room\lobby that had fox on with the volume up. I passed it about 2 dozen times. There was never any news. It was _constantly_ horrifically biased and a lot of flat out lies about democrats and commentary masquerading as news.

These people have no shame or morals or ethics.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2022, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/737 "2022-01-14T19:43:15Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> These people have no shame or morals or ethics.

But they have buckets of cash. And that’s what counts in life for them apparently.

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**Post date:** [January 14, 2022, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/738 "2022-01-14T21:02:07Z")

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I know a guy who once said that wealthy people in general must be morally good. When asked why he thought that he immediately replied “because they have all that money.”

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2022, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/739 "2022-01-14T21:15:27Z")

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This is problematic. If they can claim that their purpose is to provide entertainment rather than information (as evidenced by their abundance of opinion programs), they might be able to evade journalistic standards of accuracy. This would not affect their broadcasting content, and their viewers would not perceive the content differently, but if it is “entertainment”, its inaccuracy/deceitfulness would not be subject to debate.

In the end, _The Onion_ is actually regarded by many as a useful source of information, in the sense that it points out the absurdity of the country and gives readers food for thought. FuckedNews could realistically claim they occupy the same niche, and that their content is protected by 1A.

The ultimate question is whether the courts will address that mission statement or whether the question turns on the effects of their broadcasts. Because, even satirists are not immune to charges of libel. It all depends on how sacred lying it seen to be, as generally demanding accuracy in public statements could have a brutal impact on our consumer economy.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2022, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/740 "2022-01-15T00:48:23Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> > [@Sherrerd](#):
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> > She just has to keep proving, night after night, that she’s a moron and well-known to be a moron.
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> Perhaps part of the settlement could involve the Chryon scrolling _She’s a moron - pay no attention_ over and over while she’s on.

This is a _brilliant_ idea that Fox would be foolish to ignore. I mean, I NEVER watch Fox News. (My thanks, as always, to all here and elsewhere who do the painful work of watching that benighted channel and reporting on what’s there.)

But if there were the prospect of seeing so truthful a chyron under Pirro’s show, I’d find myself tuning it in–and so would thousands (at least) of others who normally would never watch.

Ratings bonanza!!!

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**Post date:** [January 15, 2022, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/741 "2022-01-15T07:26:00Z")

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Dave Taylor, who runs a blog about the Lincoln assassination, Booth, and the conspirators, was asked about appearing on Fox. His reply is pretty fun. Be sure to read both pages, the most entertaining stuff is on page 2.

> <https://twitter.com/LinConspirators/status/1481648571111788553>

Just in case the link doesn’t work, a couple of key lines are:  
“Your network is based entirely around fear-mongering, xenophobia, and the degradation of facts, science, history, morality, and compassion… Fox News is actively contributing to the destruction of democracy.”

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