# This Just In...Fox News Channel is bunch of lying fucks **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 22, 2021, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180 "2021-01-22T06:13:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 46
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/902 "2022-03-18T22:46:07Z")
And the lying liars get a shout out from their sponsor! From The Guardian’s live blog: > **Russia’s foreign minister praised Fox News for its coverage of the war in [Ukraine](https://www.theguardian.com/world/ukraine).** During an in-studio appearance on the Russian state-controlled RT network, Sergei Lavrov, said: “We know the manners and the tricks that are being used by the western countries to manipulate media… If you take the United States, only Fox News is trying to present some alternative point of view.” ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/903 "2022-03-18T23:16:08Z")
[from Newsweek](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-twitter-fox-news-sergey-lavrov-russia-1689539), > [@Sergei Lavrov](#): > > But when you see, you watch other channels, and when you—watch, read the social networks and internet platforms, when the acting president was blocked, as you know, and this censorship continues in a very big way and the substitution of notions whenever something is happening by the way of mass protest mass demonstrations, which they don’t like, they immediately call it domestic terrorism. So it’s a war, and it’s a war which involves the methods of information terrorism. There is no doubt about this. “Acting president”? What the fuck is that? This guy is as coherent as Individual-ONE – unless it is something about a translation issue. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/904 "2022-03-18T23:28:23Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > “Acting president”? What the fuck is that? He’s referring to when Trump got kicked off Twitter for posting covid misinformation. I think. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/905 "2022-03-18T23:50:47Z")
um, no, @realIndividual-ONE got booted off twitter for the incitements he posted on 1/6/21. But he was never “acting president” – he was president-elect at one time and lame-duck at another but never “acting president”, which can only happen during certain intervals as presribed by 25A and could not apply to him. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/906 "2022-03-18T23:54:18Z")
Right, sorry, misremembered the cause of the Twitter banhammer. Nonetheless, I think “acting president” here is intended as “sitting president” by someone whose first language isn’t English. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/907 "2022-03-19T10:53:21Z")
Anyway, this is just more proof that Fox News, the station of choice for self-styled patriots, those neighbors who probably wave the biggest American flags and have Trump and American flags pasted all over their cars and trucks, is just a propaganda outlet for Russian misinformation. I’ve said this in other thread, maybe even in this thread, but I’m gobsmacked that the most popular cable news station is essentially Tokyo Rose at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/908 "2022-03-19T11:16:19Z")
He also never acted like a President either. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/909 "2022-03-20T16:57:24Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > I’ve said this in other thread, maybe even in this thread, but I’m gobsmacked that the most popular cable news station is essentially Tokyo Rose at this point. As I said in another threat (with reference to an OAN propagandist): Is there a limit to what we will put up with when we’re in an active war against an enemy who is shelling civilians and destroying an entire country that they invaded? It seems that some in the media are simply repeating Russian propaganda verbatim. Do we just let them do/say whatever they want in the name of the Free Press? Are there limits to allowing enemy propaganda and lies to be broadcast during a war? I know that there has been no formal declaration of war between the US and Russia… but still. Are there limits to what we will put up with in terms of lying bullshit propaganda from an enemy nation being spewed to the public by American propagandists for Russia? ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/910 "2022-03-20T22:33:37Z")
I think an objective view of Biden’s approach to Ukraine would be – at worst – that he’s been handling it … okay. I might argue that he’s been handling it wisely, deftly, in an appropriately circumspect manner, and doing a reasonably good job of taking the US along with him. Aside from the cave-dwelling, hyper-partisan troglodytes, nobody in about 60% of the country thinks he’s doing a lousy job at this unimaginably perilous situation with the stakes – literally – as high as stakes ever get. Which – if you think about it – leaves people like Tuckyo Rose and his ilk very little to use as propaganda (read: political weaponry in advance of coming elections) except to purely humanize and overtly side with … Putin. In which case, you have Biden doing _a good job_ of the _absolutely wrong thing._ Which, of course, is crazy talk, unAmerican, unRepublican (old school Repubs – now on the Endangered Species List) and has the overwhelmingly likelihood of proving fatal to large numbers of Ukrainians. At least. For now. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/911 "2022-03-20T23:06:06Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > …Are there limits to what we will put up with in terms of lying bullshit propaganda from an enemy nation being spewed to the public by American propagandists for Russia? I’m going to say no. They are literally repeating Putin’s lies straight up, so that seems about as far as you could go. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/912 "2022-03-20T23:31:09Z")
They’re selling red meat to people who hate their fellow countrymen. Foreigners are OK now. There is a look of pure contempt that is the goal of all the hosts when a D or a liberal or the potus is mentioned. The audience wants to see it so they give it to them. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/913 "2022-03-21T02:04:51Z")
This link explains why I am disgusted by Fox News and the other Republican Putin-loving useful idiots: > **[Vinay Menon: Even Vladimir Putin knows Tucker Carlson is one of the greatest...](https://www.thestar.com/entertainment/even-vladimir-putin-knows-tucker-carlson-is-one-of-the-greatest-propagandists-in-russian-history/article_c556f9c2-5650-5ced-aaf1-76f0a4d98ac7.html)** > > Tucker Carlson is an intellectual cancer, flitting between conspiracies and anti-American broadsides in a desperate attempt to prove he is more than a silver spoon brat, Vinay Menon writes. Love this quote about Madison Cawthorn: > That Cawthorn is an imbecile of epic proportions is not up for debate. Even people who voted for him must be thinking, “Man alive, this guy is a moron!” There are entry-level Roombas with higher IQs. If you handed Cawthorn a Sudoku, he would try to solve it by blasting it with an AR-15: “Keep that transgender, critical race, feminist voodoo math puzzle away from me!” ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/914 "2022-03-21T05:16:39Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Is there a limit to what we will put up with when we’re in an active war against an enemy who is shelling civilians and destroying an entire country that they invaded? Of course there is. But we’re **not** in an active war. So there is nothing illegal going on. Despicable, yes. But under the law they’re doing nothing wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/915 "2022-03-21T14:23:57Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > So there is nothing illegal going on. I didn’t say anything was illegal. But will we continue to put up with it? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/916 "2022-03-21T14:53:50Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I didn’t say anything was illegal. But will we continue to put up with it? Who is “we”? And what is the alternative to “putting up with it”? I don’t think “we” are putting up with anything. Otherwise we wouldn’t be griping about it, which is the extent of what we can do. Furthermore, you ignored that your premise is flawed. We aren’t at war. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/917 "2022-03-21T15:02:20Z")
“we” is the public. “putting up with it” is continuing to give Fox News eyeballs and clicks. We’re in a proxy war. So far. My question is: In a situation that is technically legal, how much can the fig leaf of “free speech” be used to damage the country? If we find that Tucker Carlson is getting cash payments directly from the Kremlin, do we just shrug and go “whatever”? ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/918 "2022-03-21T16:17:57Z")
I think the only way to shut up FOX is to have sponsors pull their products. But that takes backbone. If that was done though, FOX would go hat in hand to their audience that wants to be lied to, and I’m sure they would. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/919 "2022-03-21T16:46:31Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > “we” is the public. > “putting up with it” is continuing to give Fox News eyeballs and clicks. I doubt anyone here is giving them eyeballs and clicks. “They” are. As far as how long they’ll put up with it? They’re idiots and their loyalty is to their ideologues, not their country or neighbors. So I’m guessing they will forever. My only hope is that “they” shrink over time until Fox, OAN, etc. are no longer sustainable. Spreading the word about the disinformation and publicly shaming them us what we’re doing, and hopefully that will help. > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > My question is: In a situation that is technically legal, how much can the fig leaf of “free speech” be used to damage the country? If we find that Tucker Carlson is getting cash payments directly from the Kremlin, do we just shrug and go “whatever”? That hypothetical would mean Carlson is _potentially_ guilty of violating the [Foreign Agents Registration Act](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Agents_Registration_Act), which is indeed illegal. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/920 "2022-03-21T16:48:29Z")
They are supported by the cable companies. Cable consumers need to have a union and require they not have to pay for fox. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/921 "2022-03-21T16:57:24Z")
Thanks for the thoughtful responses. My brain is getting over-stimulated lately. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180.md?page=45) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180.md?page=47)