# This Just In...Fox News Channel is bunch of lying fucks

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 22, 2021, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180 "2021-01-22T06:13:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/922 "2022-03-21T17:42:43Z")

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My font here is terrible – at first glance I thought it said “_… giving them eyeballs and dicks._”

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/923 "2022-03-21T19:42:00Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Thanks for the thoughtful responses.

I’ll say I share your frustrations. I sometimes wonder how assholes can literally spread Russian propaganda in the US while claiming to be a legitimate news organization, and get away with it.

I only have to hope that in the long run they **don’t** get away with it.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/924 "2022-03-22T00:29:14Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> I think the only way to shut up FOX is to have sponsors pull their products. But that takes backbone. …

> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> They are supported by the cable companies. …

Yes, it’s payments from cable companies, even more than payments from advertisers, that make FoxNews profitable.

There are various movements that advocate for cable customers to tell their providers that they consider FoxNews to be an entertainment channel, not news, and thus they shouldn’t be expected to pay for it. (Some fraction of every monthly payment goes to Fox even if they customer NEVER tunes that channel in.) FoxNews should be like STARZ or the Playboy Channel—an opt-in that people _choose_ to pay for.

One of the better-known campaigns is at Change dot org, but a quick Search of terms like ‘opt in’, ‘cable provider,’ ‘Fox News’ etc. will turn up many.

ETA: I removed the link as giving it might violate our site rules–I don’t usually provide such links (for political/social activism) so I’m a bit fuzzy. Moderators, if even mentioning a site is forbidden, feel free to edit out.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2022, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/925 "2022-04-03T22:17:03Z")

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[from Kiwiland](https://twitter.com/JaimeySexton/status/1510411705905561601)

> [@Jamie Sexton](#):
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> Asked why New Zealand does not suffer from the rage of older white men like in other western Anglo countries, PM Jacinda Adern replied, “Because we’ve never allowed Rupert Murdoch to set up a media outlet here.” The guy has wreaked havoc on civil society in US.  
> [5:19 PM · Apr 2, 2022](https://twitter.com/JaimeySexton/status/1510411705905561601)

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2022, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/926 "2022-04-03T23:23:18Z")

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I’ve an Australian friend here. When I suggested Australia could have Murdoch back at any time, his response was, “Oh, Hell, no!”

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2022, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/927 "2022-04-03T23:27:30Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> [from Kiwiland](https://twitter.com/JaimeySexton/status/1510411705905561601)
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> > [@Jamie Sexton](#):
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> > Asked why New Zealand does not suffer from the rage of older white men like in other western Anglo countries, PM Jacinda Adern replied, “Because we’ve never allowed Rupert Murdoch to set up a media outlet here.” The guy has wreaked havoc on civil society in US.  
> > [5:19 PM · Apr 2, 2022](https://twitter.com/JaimeySexton/status/1510411705905561601)

It really is as simple as that. Keep out the guy who _sells_ rage, and you’ll have less rage.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/928 "2022-04-04T02:15:44Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Keep out the guy who _sells_ rage, and you’ll have less rage.

When rage is outlawed, only outlaws will have rage?

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/929 "2022-04-04T22:13:55Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> When rage is outlawed, only outlaws will have rage? -

Sounds good to me.

(For some reason this reminded me of the Classic Trek episode _Mirror, Mirror_, at the end of which

Kirk, returned to his own universe from the savage Mirror universe, asked Spock how he’d been able to identify the ‘Mirror Kirk’ as a ringer so quickly. Spock’s answer was to the effect that Mirror Kirk had NO ability to behave as a civilized person–no self-control–and so was easy to ID.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2022, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/930 "2022-04-05T09:30:46Z")

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I’ve been a serious Trekker since I first saw the original series, yet I’ve always wondered about that line. Given the society in the mirror universe, self-control would definitely be the most developed skill one would need to avoid getting killed.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2022, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/931 "2022-04-05T12:18:25Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> For some reason this reminded me of the Classic Trek episode _Mirror, Mirror_ , at the end of which
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> Kirk, returned to his own universe from the savage Mirror universe, asked Spock how he’d been able to identify the ‘Mirror Kirk’ as a ringer so quickly. Spock’s answer was to the effect that Mirror Kirk had NO ability to behave as a civilized person–no self-control–and so was easy to ID.

So what does Mirror universe Donald Trump look and act like?

As I’ve already pointed out, we’ve apparently already traded our universe’s Ted Cruz in exchange for the Spock-bearded EVIL Ted Cruz we now have.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2022, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/932 "2022-04-05T12:34:07Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> As I’ve already pointed out, we’ve apparently already traded our universe’s Ted Cruz in exchange for the Spock-bearded EVIL Ted Cruz we now have. -

The only difference between our Ted Cruz and the Spock-bearded EVIL Ted Cruz is the beard.  
In fact, each is more evil than the other.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2022, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/933 "2022-04-05T19:45:47Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> I’ve been a serious Trekker since I first saw the original series, yet I’ve always wondered about that line. Given the society in the mirror universe, self-control would definitely be the most developed skill one would need to avoid getting killed.

The ability to show enough self-discipline to avoid striking at a superior unless and until you’re ready to come out on top isn’t quite the same thing as the self-discipline required to act like a civilized person. There’s also the fact that one of the other major survival skills in the Mirror Universe is projecting an image of strength, even (or perhaps _especially_) if you’re weak (analogous to the way Faux Noise pundits tend to dial up their “stupid person’s idea of a smart person” image).

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2022, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/934 "2022-04-06T00:33:11Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> So what does Mirror universe Donald Trump look and act like?

It’s tempting to picture a Donald Trump who is honest, kind, intelligent, empathetic, and decent.

But I warn you: undertaking such an exercise would be a mistake. Do NOT ask anyone to think about this; the result of the effort–of the magnitude of the _departure from reality_–is likely to be irreversible brain damage.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2022, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/935 "2022-04-06T00:58:42Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> It’s tempting to picture a Donald Trump who is honest, kind, intelligent, empathetic, and decent.

The one on the right in this picture.

[![](https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTF-DOXZozondLLEbOB5ytu7TMvLKpmwQiLi8F5_y3r1LFWrrT0) ](https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTF-DOXZozondLLEbOB5ytu7TMvLKpmwQiLi8F5_y3r1LFWrrT0)

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2022, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/936 "2022-04-06T01:25:09Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> So what does Mirror universe Donald Trump look and act like?

I’m thinking Santa Claus. Take Trumps rotund frame, remove the spray tan and fake hair, add a beard (all parallel earthers have beards) and a jolly generous disposition and you’re set to go.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2022, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/937 "2022-04-06T02:59:11Z")

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Semi-on-topic, [DirecTV has ended its contract with OAN](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/04/directv-dropped-oan-today-rejecting-gop-pleas-to-keep-right-wing-network/) which may well kill the LittleBullshitNetwork by depriving it of 90% of its revenue. The article hints at the possibility that the carrier will “evaluate” their agreement with NewsFlax as well and drop them if they see fit, but DirecTV is only offering boilerplate so far. Faux is probably safe, though.

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**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2022, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/938 "2022-04-06T03:03:34Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Semi-on-topic, [DirecTV has ended its contract with OAN](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/04/directv-dropped-oan-today-rejecting-gop-pleas-to-keep-right-wing-network/) which may well kill the LittleBullshitNetwork by depriving it of 90% of its revenue.

Yeah, I got a postcard from Direct TV (I’m a subscriber) a couple days ago detailing what channels they were adding and deleting, and noticed that. Wonder if they’ll be any blowback from customers in the more Conservative areas (I live in Alabama).

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2022, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/939 "2022-04-06T12:05:05Z")

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Modern conservatism is little more than performative whining, so of course they will ‘blow back’.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2022, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/940 "2022-04-06T12:10:26Z")

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I will never stop giggling at conservatives crying censorship when the free market does exactly what it is supposed to do.

Never not funny.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2022, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/941 "2022-04-06T14:55:38Z")

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In conservative language “Free Market” means that companies should be forced by the government to do what the conservative minority wants.

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