# This Just In...Fox News Channel is bunch of lying fucks

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 22, 2021, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180 "2021-01-22T06:13:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2022, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1042 "2022-07-15T09:51:32Z")

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They do get quite cheeky on occasion.

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
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Butt…

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
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They do spew a good deal of excrement.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2022, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1045 "2022-07-16T11:01:28Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> OTOH, I’ve felt the Faux News motto needs two more:  
> _Fail and Balanced – My Ass_

Best typo of the year.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2022, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1046 "2022-07-16T16:07:24Z")

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Freudian typo. I didn’t notice it until it was far too late.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1047 "2022-08-12T18:43:30Z")

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[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fox-news-airs-false-photo-of-trump-search-judge-with-ghislaine-maxwell/ar-AA10B4G8?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=60edc39ae10e4170b4b562cb4504b711](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fox-news-airs-false-photo-of-trump-search-judge-with-ghislaine-maxwell/ar-AA10B4G8?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=60edc39ae10e4170b4b562cb4504b711)

Kilmeade tries to outdick Tucker Carlson??

> Filling in for Fox News host Tucker Carlson on Wednesday, guest host Brian Kilmeade showed viewers a digitally altered photo of Reinhart holding a bottle of liquor and a pack of Oreo cookies while sitting across from Maxwell with his feet in her lap.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1048 "2022-08-12T18:49:09Z")

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Is Fox ““News”” trying to get folks to start ‘Photoshop your favorite Fox host in a compromising juxtaposition!’ contests?

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1049 "2022-08-12T18:52:19Z")

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[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/they-had-it-fox-news-host-baffled-over-why-trump-world-would-lie-about-mar-a-lago-search-warrant/ar-AA10zCg2?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=bcfb465378ca4fd095215cbeb329c275](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/they-had-it-fox-news-host-baffled-over-why-trump-world-would-lie-about-mar-a-lago-search-warrant/ar-AA10zCg2?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=bcfb465378ca4fd095215cbeb329c275)

> "Don’t mistake or misconstrue what I’m saying, anyone around the table. I’m not rooting against the president. But what I don’t for the life of me – I’ll come back to where I started – if the president had the warrant, had the receipt, why would you tell your friends and your supporters that you didn’t have it and blame and attack FBI agents and other federal officials? For the life of me I don’t quite understand it.

Let me help you then. All Trump supporters, like Trump himself, are a bunch of lying dicks.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1050 "2022-08-12T18:54:38Z")

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Grrr, don’t tempt me. I actually really do enjoy doing computer graphic arts, and that sounds like something I could waste way, way, way too much time with.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1051 "2022-08-12T19:00:08Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> [MSN](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fox-news-airs-false-photo-of-trump-search-judge-with-ghislaine-maxwell/ar-AA10B4G8?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=60edc39ae10e4170b4b562cb4504b711)
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> Kilmeade tries to outdick Tucker Carlson??
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> > Filling in for Fox News host Tucker Carlson on Wednesday, guest host Brian Kilmeade showed viewers a digitally altered photo of Reinhart holding a bottle of liquor and a pack of Oreo cookies while sitting across from Maxwell with his feet in her lap.

Looks like libel to me.

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**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1052 "2022-08-14T00:59:17Z")

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If this really does go to trial, it’s going to be epic:

> **[Defamation Suit About Election Falsehoods Puts Fox on Its Heels (Published 2022)](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/13/business/media/fox-dominion-lawsuit-first-amendment.html?unlocked_article_code=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuomT1JKd6J17Vw1cRCfTTMQmqxCdw_PIxftm3iWka3DFDm8ZiO4IGImG9lzWIq9ua9o6mDqcVJpNN7ouQv11yKpbNlN2Vgi055WFgo8ZZiwwpIS_W24ww9TNQbU8u3fMX1WOFd1elve5rg7Ud3-5G-GEgyh2Og9mpsZid175xSQDx_raFuck3s0u3vYhGsh_ETZWZXSO7fa4DQ5se4nTNmGq4Qc9Xe1dXjHWjITcv-pGKFMOfAqAGHBv4m8868deMccUOcv9Lh0nfMn4idYBGzAibdfpV9BqGd-ix_g9uqXNqBeM1MO92_03caxWt7_DuWuxX0092zOU0FWtDmx_isueNkyD2g&smid=url-share)**
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> The suit, filed by Dominion Voting Systems, could be one of the most consequential First Amendment cases in a generation.

> First Amendment scholars say the case is a rarity in libel law. Defamation claims typically involve a single disputed statement. But Dominion’s complaint is replete with example after example of false statements, many of them made after the facts were widely known. And such suits are often quickly dismissed, because of the First Amendment’s broad free speech protections and the high-powered lawyers available to a major media company like Fox. If they do go forward, they are usually settled out of court to spare both sides the costly spectacle of a trial.

> But Dominion’s $1.6 billion case against Fox has been steadily progressing in Delaware state court this summer, inching ever closer to trial. There have been no moves from either side toward a settlement, according to interviews with several people involved in the case. The two companies are deep into document discovery, combing through years of each other’s emails and text messages, and taking depositions.

> The case has caused palpable unease at the Fox News Channel, said several people there, who would speak only anonymously. Anchors and executives have been preparing for depositions and have been forced to hand over months of private emails and text messages to Dominion, which is hoping to prove that network employees knew that wild accusations of ballot rigging in the 2020 election were false. The hosts Steve Doocy, Dana Perino and Shepard Smith are among the current and former Fox personalities who either have been deposed or will be this month.

> Dominion is trying to build a case that aims straight at the top of the Fox media empire and the Murdochs. In court filings and depositions, Dominion lawyers have laid out how they plan to show that senior Fox executives hatched a plan after the election to lure back viewers who had switched to rival hard-right networks, which were initially more sympathetic than Fox was to Mr. Trump’s voter-fraud claims.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1053 "2022-08-14T01:16:37Z")

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First, I am personally ashamed that before just this moment, I had not read this thread since November of 2021.

Second, I need to make a call:

"“Hi. Do you have Tucker Carlson in the Can?”  
“Sir, this is a news stand.”  
“Should I try the police then? Or Rupert Murdoch?”

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**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1054 "2022-08-14T15:54:19Z")

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Can Dominion use Fox’s statements about other targets be used as evidence that Fox acted with malice? I’m thinking about the Photoshopped image of Judge Reinhart.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1055 "2022-08-15T22:02:36Z")

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Eva Braun wants to date other people:

> **[Laura Ingraham: Voters might say it’s ‘time to turn the page’ on Trump](https://thehill.com/homenews/media/3602789-laura-ingraham-voters-might-say-its-time-to-turn-the-page-on-trump/)**
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> Fox News host Laura Ingraham on Monday said Americans might be ready “to turn the page” on former President Trump as he decides whether to run for president a third time.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1056 "2022-08-16T22:43:59Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Eva Braun wants to date other people:

I guess that’s preferable to heading down to the bunker with Dear Leader.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1057 "2022-08-17T00:13:04Z")

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Reading about them going through discovery on that case reminded me of another advantage of Dominion going through with the law suit. Even if in the end they don’t win due to some technicalities regarding malice, this should firmly put a stake in the notion that there was ever any evidence what so ever that Dominion was involved in election tampering.

If there was such evidence Fox/Powell/Guilani would just have to produce it in court and it would make the whole defamation suit go up in smoke. Through discovery they have the opportunity to subpoena whatever they needed (within reason) to make their case. If it comes to trial and the offer no evidence (which they won’t because there isn’t any that wouldn’t set them up for perjury) then it must be because none exists.

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**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1058 "2022-08-17T00:29:25Z")

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Note this from the article I posted:

> But Dominion’s complaint is replete with example after example of false statements, many of them made after the facts were widely known.

That’s enough to prove reckless disregard for the truth/actual malice. If, in addition, Dominion has any emails or text messages from decision makers at Fox that bascially say “fuck those guys, we’re pushing our narrative anyway,” Fox is screwed.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1059 "2022-08-17T00:31:43Z")

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Just a matter of time before ‘Journalistic standards? We’re an entertainment channel!’

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1060 "2022-08-17T09:36:00Z")

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Then why aren’t they entertaining?

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1061 "2022-08-17T10:36:59Z")

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I dunno, I’m very entertained by their escalating panic over Dominion’s uncompromising pursuit of discovery.

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