# This Just In...Fox News Channel is bunch of lying fucks

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**Created:** [January 22, 2021, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180 "2021-01-22T06:13:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1062 "2022-08-17T11:32:14Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> > [@JohnT](#):
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> > Eva Braun wants to date other people:
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> I guess that’s preferable to heading down to the bunker with Dear Leader. -

I say it should be put to a vote.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1063 "2022-08-17T13:02:57Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Even if in the end they don’t win due to some technicalities regarding malice, this should firmly put a stake in the notion that there was ever any evidence what so ever that Dominion was involved in election tampering.

But what difference will that make?  
The MAGAts will ignore it, like the impeachments and Jan 6th hearings.  
The rest of us already knew that “Windows: Hugo Chavez’ Ghost Edition” was a giant pile.

> [@romansperson](#):
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> If, in addition, Dominion has any emails or text messages from decision makers at Fox that bascially say “fuck those guys, we’re pushing our narrative anyway,” Fox is screwed.

Yeah but after the Alex Jones thing\*, I don’t dare hope the US can actually give meaningful repercussions to the most egregious and dangerous misinformation.

\* I mean, the limit on the punitive damages makes no sense. It means that the rich can say whatever they like against the comparatively poor, because the latter’s damages will never be significant to the former.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1064 "2022-08-17T13:39:18Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> - I mean, the limit on the punitive damages makes no sense. It means that the rich can say whatever they like against the comparatively poor, because the latter’s damages will never be significant to the former.

Of course that’s the whole point.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1065 "2022-08-17T13:56:30Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> The MAGAts will ignore it, like the impeachments and Jan 6th hearings.

Correct, but this stuff isn’t aimed at those lost souls. It needs to be pounded on so that the low-information voter is constantly reminded that TFG is a crook, and doesn’t fall into the ‘all these guys are the same’ trap.

> [@Mijin](#):
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> I mean, the limit on the punitive damages makes no sense. It means that the rich can say whatever they like against the comparatively poor, because the latter’s damages will never be significant to the former.

I sympathize with the idea of limits and why they were passed - idiot falls off ladder, sues and gets $100 million (I realize that such cases are extremely rare, and often usually reduced). But your point of it gives the wealthy carte-blanche is of course true (similar to traffic tickets - a ticket for 100 in a 55 would hurt me, but I can afford it (and also afford an attorney to likely get it changed to a non-moving violation) - but its going to ruin someone making $30,000).

Not sure how to limit the ambulance chasers and their clients and still allow the hammer of the gods to come down on those it needs to smite.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1066 "2022-08-17T14:11:25Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> (similar to traffic tickets - a ticket for 100 in a 55 would hurt me, but I can afford it (and also afford an attorney to likely get it changed to a non-moving violation) - but its going to ruin someone making $30,000).

Here in the UK, as well as the fine, you get points on your license. Above a certain number of points you can be banned from driving.

Parking violations I guess, are an example of a rule that the rich can break with impunity, although even there, the car may be seized or clamped and so cause inconvenience as well as the fine.

Anyway, I think we can agree that slandering and endangering the grieving parents of murdered children is not the kind of thing society should let rich people trivially pay off and walk away.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1067 "2022-08-17T14:29:27Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> Here in the UK, as well as the fine, you get points on your license. Above a certain number of points you can be banned from driving.

Many/most of the states in the US do a point system also, but (as with most of life) if you have money you can dodge things at least for a while (plead to a non-moving, etc). Plus, of course, getting banned from driving doesn’t actually prevent you from driving. And unless you are driving drunk without a license, I don’t think you are likely to face anything beyond escalating fines.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1068 "2022-08-17T17:03:40Z")

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Driving with a suspended license can lead to jail time, but again that’s where those expensive lawyers come in. Still if Mr. Rich has made a habit of flagrantly and repeatedly ignoring the law a judge may decide that a couple of years in the clink might be just what he needs to teach him some humility.

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**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1069 "2022-08-17T18:07:37Z")

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Mr Rich could just hire a chauffeur anyway

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**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1070 "2022-08-17T18:32:02Z")

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Which would be fine. The consequence of abusing your driving privileges is that those privileges can be taken away and you have to make do without them. The part that is unfair is when the rich use their wealth to avoid the consequences that the not-rich are subjected to.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1071 "2022-08-17T18:50:45Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> Yeah but after the Alex Jones thing\*, I don’t dare hope the US can actually give meaningful repercussions to the most egregious and dangerous misinformation.
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> - I mean, the limit on the punitive damages makes no sense. It means that the rich can say whatever they like against the comparatively poor, because the latter’s damages will never be significant to the former.

Alex just got hit with a 45 million dollar Punitive judgement in Texas. And now he has to go to Connecticut and fight another case he cannot possible win. That is significant.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1072 "2022-08-17T18:54:13Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> lex just got hit with a 45 million dollar Punitive judgement in Texas.

It will almost certainly be slashed, it’s too high relative to the compensory damages.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1073 "2022-08-17T18:56:55Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> Alex just got hit with a 45 million dollar Punitive judgement in Texas. And now he has to go to Connecticut and fight another case he cannot possible win. That is significant.

As Johnny Bravo says, the amount will be vastly reduced - probably less than 5 million. Jones probably made that amount in grifting the rubes this week alone.  
The Texas “protect the rich from consequences of their illegal behavior” law will protect him.

> **[This 1995 Texas law could shield Alex Jones from paying the vast majority of...](https://www.texastribune.org/2022/08/08/alex-jones-verdict-damages/)**
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> Democrats in 1995 enacted lawsuit reforms that limit the amount of damages plaintiffs collect.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1074 "2022-08-17T21:08:25Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> I think we can agree that slandering and endangering the grieving parents of murdered children is not the kind of thing society should let rich people trivially pay off and walk away.

_Especially_ when the slandering and endangering is _why_ they’re rich. “Fruits of the crime” lets the government seize goods bought with money made from a criminal activity. We need a similar doctrine for civil cases such as this one is.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1075 "2022-08-17T22:05:14Z")

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Good point.

For someone as soulless as Alex Jones, right now it’s all been a win. The lies in the first place got him viewers, the court case would have got him viewers. And he can tell them that $50 million will bankrupt him, so “Donate Now!”  
While actually paying a sum that is negligible for him.

Of course, there are other cases against Alex, and the leak of his texts in this one is likely to bring a tsunami of shit his way. But that doesn’t change that, in itself, the defamation case was less than harmless and shows that part of the law is completely ineffective in the US. Well, Texas at least.

Anyway, sorry for the hijack.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1076 "2022-08-17T22:10:52Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> Of course, there are other cases against Alex, and the leak of his texts in this one is likely to bring a tsunami of shit his way. But that doesn’t change that, in itself, the defamation case was less than harmless and shows that part of the law is completely ineffective in the US. Well, Texas at least.

One of those cases is in Texas but the other one isn’t. The case in Connecticut is the one that I hope really hits him financially in a way he can’t shrug off. (He’ll publicly whine about any judgement against him and claim it will ruin him, but I’m sure he has enough squirrelled away in his shell companies that a few million won’t even put a dent in his wealth.)

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1077 "2022-08-29T23:41:42Z")

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I have no words for these clowns.

> **[Let's Have a Laugh at Fox News Criticizing Prince Harry's 'Gas-Guzzling'...](https://jalopnik.com/lets-have-a-laugh-at-fox-news-criticizing-prince-harrys-1849470330)**
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> The news network says the Prince's Audi sat idling at the airport for a half hour pumping carbon into the air. Except it wasn't, because it was an electric SUV.

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1078 "2022-08-29T23:45:58Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> [Fox News Criticizes Prince Harry's 'Gas-Guzzling' Electric Audi](https://jalopnik.com/lets-have-a-laugh-at-fox-news-criticizing-prince-harrys-1849470330)

Of course Fox News viewers will NEVER learn that Prince Harry’s vehicle is electric.

So I guess that’s another win for the Murdochs.

(Fox is really having to work _hard_ in order to avoid talking about Trump’s assault on US national security and its ongoing effects, eh?)

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2022, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1079 "2022-08-30T04:32:13Z")

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There was some sort of family brunchy thing that included drag queens doing their drag thing – in front of minors, _arrrgh!_ So the good, decent, jehovallah-fearing proper murkan boys showed up to deal with this travesty – and were cofronted by _Liberals with **Guns** _. I mean, that ain’t right, Liberals ain’t s’posta have guns, for cripe sake.

Trust Fox to clear things up,

> **[Masked Antifa protesters show up brandishing weapons at Texas 'drag brunch'...](https://www.foxnews.com/us/masked-antifa-protesters-show-brandishing-weapons-texas-drag-bunch-kids)**
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> Masked members of Antifa responded to a protest by showing up openly wielding guns at a family-friendly drag show at a distillery in Roanoke, Texas, on Sunday.

Nothing worse than them damn facism-haters. 14! 88!

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**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\
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I thought conservatives _liked_ brandishing guns at public events. I know, I know, IOWARDI.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2022, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1081 "2022-08-30T05:54:47Z")

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I’m tickled pink by this! I’ve been saying it for a few years now: it’s really time for the marginalized to show up armed to events at which the Alt White (aka Alt Right) morons plan to intimdate attendees.

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