# This Just In...Fox News Channel is bunch of lying fucks **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 22, 2021, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180 "2021-01-22T06:13:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 73
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1442 "2023-04-01T20:40:43Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Maybe they reveal that their 25 year history was just one big April Fools day joke that got a _little_ out of hand. I have often felt that the only way the last several years could make sense is if Trump stepped up tomorrow and told us it was all performance art. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1443 "2023-04-01T21:26:12Z")
“And we call it… The Aristocrats.” ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1444 "2023-04-01T21:30:56Z")
Huh, now I miss Bob Saget ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1445 "2023-04-01T22:35:11Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Maybe they reveal that their 25 year history was just one big April Fools day joke that got a _little_ out of hand. Not 25 years, but that’s Q anonymous. I swear, I think that was some high school kids trying to see just how far down the rabbit hole these idiots would go. Turned out there is no bottom. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1446 "2023-04-02T01:32:41Z")
Especially the way reality has been going of late. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1447 "2023-04-02T03:57:20Z")
If he stepped up to the mic, pulled off an elaborate mask and it was Andy Kaufman-_That_ would explain everything. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1448 "2023-04-02T15:07:04Z")
That sounds like seed for a new CT. Individual-ONE had a fatal aneurysm 30 years ago, but meanwhile the alternative therapies actually did work for Kaufman, so he has been trolling us lo these many decades. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1449 "2023-04-02T18:27:00Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > A publication is made with actual malice if it is made with knowledge that it is false or with reckless disregard of whether or not it is false. > … > > This doesn’t feel like an insurmountably high bar for Dominion. No kidding. Dominion has multiple pieces of written evidence that Fox executives absolutely knew it to be false, and broadcast it anyway. Slam dunk. The only question is the amount of damages. And Dominion also has excellent evidence of fiduciary harm caused by Fox. ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1450 "2023-04-02T19:38:08Z")
Is there a limit on the amount of punitive damages the jury can award? ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1451 "2023-04-02T20:01:56Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > the alternative therapies actually did work for Kaufman, so he has been trolling us lo these many decades. It would explain so much. I can see it now. He gets inaugurated in 2025 and immediately after, pulls off a rubber mask ala _Mission Impossible_ and says, “Thanks for all the cash, suckers!” > [@Turek](#): > > Is there a limit on the amount of punitive damages the jury can award? Depends on the state. Texas (natch) definitely. The Sandyhook parents who sued Alex Jones there ran into that. Other states not so much. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1452 "2023-04-02T20:18:38Z")
More specifically … > [@](#): > > DELAWARE > > There are no caps on either compensatory or punitive damages in Delaware. > > In terms of collateral source\*, Delaware allows for the recovery of the reasonable value of medical expenses. See Mitchell v. Hunter, 883 A.2d 32 (Del. 2005); Onusko v. Kerr, 880 A.2d 1022 (Del. 2005). \*[**Collateral Source - defined**](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/collateral-source-rule.asp) [**SOURCE**](https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/50-state-survey-of-statutory-caps-on-39804/) [Dominion’s case against Fox News is in the Delaware Superior Court] ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1453 "2023-04-02T20:22:00Z")
The nice thing about punitive damages in no-limit states is, it has to be an amount that really punishes and hurts the entity that caused the harm and discourages them from committing such an offense again. Think what a huge number that could be for Fox. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1454 "2023-04-02T20:26:46Z")
Can Fox be ordered to fire certain on air hosts? ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1455 "2023-04-02T20:32:37Z")
It seems unlikely to me, although I suppose Dominion could ‘insist on it’ as part of a hypothetical settlement agreement. OTOH, if you want to see a bunch of Dopers hash out this question … > [@Can a court/judge order someone to be fired from their job?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-a-court-judge-order-someone-to-be-fired-from-their-job/776251/4): > > I’m not so sure. I think the Court can award damages, I don’t think the Court has the power to force a termination. I don’t have time to research right now, but I’ll stick with my “no” answer above. The only exception I can think of is pursuant to some sort of “consent decree” where the Court has taken over some kind of authority (over a police department or school district, for example) ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1456 "2023-04-02T20:34:05Z")
I don’t see how, but they might do it voluntarily as part of their rehab efforts. I think they’re toast either way. If they don’t feed their deranged audience the things they want to hear, the audience peels away to another network that will. (RT?) If they continue to lie on air, these cases will become more frequent and other entities such as the cable providers that carry their channel will drop them from their lineups. Consider also that when if malicious intent is found to be true, then that opens the door to endless new civil cases being brought against them. E.g., all the 140 Capitol police who were injured on January 6th. For that matter, January 6th attendees who suffered criminal prosecutions because they believed what Fox was selling when they knew the information was false. It’s not a small list. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1457 "2023-04-02T21:05:44Z")
If only there was capital punishment for corporations (_which are people, my friend_, after all). Fox could be charged with deliberate crminal negligence in the death of that woman in the January 6th fiesta, have its charter revoked and all its assets seized by the government. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1458 "2023-04-02T21:12:53Z")
Could I ask that the Fox Logo be put in a [Gibbet Cage](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibbeting), and hung from a yardarm on Wall Street as a warning to other capitalist corporations? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1459 "2023-04-03T10:45:59Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > If he stepped up to the mic, pulled off an elaborate mask and it was Andy Kaufman-_That_ would explain everything. I’ve been operating on the assumption that Tucker Carlson is just Phil Hartmann in disguise, in an updated version of his “Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer” persona. “I’m just a rich white douche! Your ‘normal demographic change’ frightens me! Now get me a scotch!” ---
**Author:** ![medstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@medstar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/medstar)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1460 "2023-04-03T15:41:50Z")
I just really wish that Fox had to change its name to Fox Entertainment Channel and run a permanent banner stating that all of the hosts were entertainers, not journalists. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1461 "2023-04-03T16:05:20Z")
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