# This Just In...Fox News Channel is bunch of lying fucks **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 22, 2021, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180 "2021-01-22T06:13:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 74
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1462 "2023-04-03T20:24:13Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I’ve been operating on the assumption that Tucker Carlson is just Phil Hartmann in disguise, in an updated version of his “Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer” persona. I would be so happy if that was true, Phil Hartman was a national treasure and he met his end in such a tragic and bizarre way. Why couldn’t Tucker have been taken instead of Phil? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1463 "2023-04-03T20:42:35Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Liars, not journalists. Split the difference: “Lying entertainers” ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1464 "2023-04-03T20:45:58Z")
They’re not really very entertaining, either. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1465 "2023-04-03T21:15:03Z")
Fox Disinformation Center. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1466 "2023-04-03T21:39:07Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Phil Hartman was a national treasure and he met his end in such a tragic and bizarre way Which does not _even_ compare to the bizarre and frightening death of director Alan Pakula but 6 months later. > [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > Fox Disinformation Center. _I am so sorry – I told a Fox_. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1467 "2023-04-03T22:06:28Z")
This is going to require we revisit “crazy like a Fox.” ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1468 "2023-04-03T22:08:54Z")
I’d like to see a really rude, annoying neon sign over their commentators’ heads that flashes, “Lying!! Lying!! Lying!!” every time one of them was talking. Because, you know, that sign would basically blink non-stop. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1469 "2023-04-03T22:32:53Z")
If _Galaxy Quest_ was released today, it would be considered a “little too on the nose” allegory of Fox News and their viewers. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1470 "2023-04-03T22:47:05Z")
I was volunteering at the library today, and every Monday for now, there’s a group of volunteers who are doing taxes for free for qualified people. There was a borderline-elderly woman walking around while she waited her turn (who, FWIW, smelled like urine) talking to everyone about, in short, Hunter Biden’s laptop and his links to Ukraine, and how she learned about this on Fox. I kept my mouth shut, and not just because of the way she smelled. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1471 "2023-04-03T23:15:49Z")
> [@](#): > > Denied: actual Malice - that must be heard by a jury. So how long until Fox is reporting “Judge rules in favor of Fox, denies that we acted with malice!”? And do plaintiffs typically suggest an amount of punitive damages? If I were a juror, and wished to “deter the defendant or others from similar behavior”, I’d want to set the amount of punitive damages at the total value of the ad time sold in the shows that repeated the lies… but that’s a number I don’t know, and I don’t think juries are allowed to do outside research on such things. But it’s something that Dominion’s lawyers could easily have researched. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1472 "2023-04-03T23:33:19Z")
If I were on the jury, I’d set the award at the Market Cap of Fox news; 17.10 Billion. No more. No less. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1473 "2023-04-03T23:56:25Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > And do plaintiffs typically suggest an amount of punitive damages? IANAL, but I asked my buddy Google. From what I can tell, a plaintiff can ask for punitive damages, and in so doing they would argue for why they are warranted (showing evidence of malice, direct harm, disregard for the law, acting recklessly) but the actual amount is reached through a calculation done by the courts. Also, it seems that punitive damages are rare; they are awarded only about 5% of the time. So when you hear of them in a case (like the Alex Jones lawsuits) you know something pretty egregious happened. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1474 "2023-04-04T00:35:48Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Also, it seems that punitive damages are rare; they are awarded only about 5% of the time. So when you hear of them in a case (like the Alex Jones lawsuits) you know something pretty egregious happened. Exxon dragged their tanker through the court system, first being hit with $5B in punitive damages, then getting it knocked down to $4B, then bouncing it around until it finally came out at half a billion. I guess they had a good legal team (and judges holding significant stock shares in the company). ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1475 "2023-04-04T08:59:49Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Can Fox be ordered to fire certain on air hosts? I’d be satisfied if they had to announce after each story, “What I have just said might or might not be true but in either case was designed to get you riled up and make poor life choices.” ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1476 "2023-04-04T13:08:35Z")
Former FOX producer Abby Grossberg is suing FOX, claiming that they pressured her into taking the fall over the dominion lies. Is it possible for _both_ sides of a court case to somehow lose? Because there definitely should be no winners here. I find it disgusting that she still cannot admit to promulgating lies, and that she claims, ludicrously, that it took her a long while to “draw the dots” between her shows and what happened on Jan 6th. [Video from NBC News](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PziQjTSCpeA) ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1477 "2023-04-04T13:57:57Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > > [@Czarcasm](#): > > > > Can Fox be ordered to fire certain on air hosts? > > I’d be satisfied if they had to announce after each story, “What I have just said might or might not be true but in either case was designed to get you riled up and make poor life choices.” Before, as well. “_I am about to spew some incendiary bullshit designed to trigger you_,” or something to that effect. But require them to clearly say “bullshit”, not some euphemism or abbreviation. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1478 "2023-04-04T14:26:24Z")
The thing is that no matter what disclaimers they aired, their viewers would just say “They’re only saying that because the woke libtards are forcing them to. But **I** know that they’re really speaking the truth, because I’m too smart to be fooled!” ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1479 "2023-04-04T17:00:14Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > But require them to clearly say “bullshit”, not some euphemism or abbreviation. Horse Hockey! ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1480 "2023-04-04T21:33:56Z")
So how did Fox cover today’s proceedings, I wonder? I never watch it, but I’m curious if anyone checked. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1481 "2023-04-04T21:37:22Z")
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