# This Just In...Fox News Channel is bunch of lying fucks

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**Created:** [January 22, 2021, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180 "2021-01-22T06:13:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1602 "2023-04-18T18:41:43Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> doing bigger first makes more sense

Then why not advocate 2023 Jan 01?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1603 "2023-04-18T19:26:18Z")

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Not too sure this is a good sign for Fox:

> **[Judge orders investigation into Fox News for concealing evidence after...](https://www.smartnews.com/p/4539193908113972926?placement=article-preview-social&utm_campaign=sn_lid%3A4539193908113972926%7Csn_channel%3Acr_en_us_top&share_id=LltgPy)**
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> SmartNews is the most efficient way to get all your news now.

From Seth MacFarlane (reporting from the courtroom):

> <https://twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews/status/1648406592344260610?t=kB29p4kaIkIvJ0B0cTNrug&s=19>

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1604 "2023-04-18T19:32:15Z")

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I explained that in the end of the sentence you quoted. To repeat, most of the time when people use dates, they are referring to the current year and therefore can drop the year.

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**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1605 "2023-04-18T19:36:27Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> From Seth MacFarlane (reporting from the courtroom):

I’d actually be interested in **Seth** MacFarlane’s reporting.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1606 "2023-04-18T19:36:42Z")

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Oh oh.

Looks like Fox might have lied in the current court case that is about their previous lying.

It’s lying liars all the way down!

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1607 "2023-04-18T19:57:24Z")

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🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1608 "2023-04-18T19:59:24Z")

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NY Times is reporting that the parties have settled. No details yet.

Very disappointing.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1609 "2023-04-18T20:01:12Z")

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What am I gonna do with all this popcorn?

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1610 "2023-04-18T20:01:23Z")

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I’ll reserve judgment until I know more about the settlement terms.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1611 "2023-04-18T20:04:21Z")

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CNN also breaking the news that a settlement has been reached. No details, though.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1612 "2023-04-18T20:05:41Z")

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So if they settle, does the issue of Faux and its mouthpieces lying to the court automatically go away? Or is it too soon to tell?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1613 "2023-04-18T20:21:29Z")

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Dominion lawyer speaking outside of courtroom. $787.5 million, and Fox admits to the lies.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1614 "2023-04-18T20:25:40Z")

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Sounds like, so far, Faux and their lying hosts got of easier than easy.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1615 "2023-04-18T20:26:46Z")

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CNN’s Jake Tapper just read Fox’s statement–and tried, unsuccessfully, to not laugh at the end.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1616 "2023-04-18T20:27:26Z")

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Do any of our legal eagles know whether this settlement voids the legal issues that fox and/or its lawyers got into due lying about discovery? Since the trial isn’t happening is it all moot? or since they tried to slip one past the court are they still in trouble?

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**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1617 "2023-04-18T20:28:54Z")

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I heard on msnbc that the special master can bring more hurt on Faux.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1618 "2023-04-18T20:30:40Z")

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**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1619 "2023-04-18T20:30:49Z")

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Nothing on the Fox news site…of course.

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**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1620 "2023-04-18T20:30:58Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Do any of our legal eagles know whether this settlement voids the legal issues that fox and/or its lawyers got into due lying about discovery?

the court typically retains jurisdiction to investigate and sanction misconduct. Part of the deal could be something like Dominion will withdraw it’s request for sanctions." But, even if that happened (I’m just imagining possibilities) it wouldn’t necessary mean the court won’t follow up on it’s own.

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**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1621 "2023-04-18T20:32:10Z")

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Well, IANAL as you know and this is only an educated guess, but…

I think the special master appointment goes away because it was attached to this litigation, which is now resolved. But there is nothing that prevents further independent investigation into whether Fox lied to the court about a fulsome exchange of discovery. That’s a big no-no, withholding evidence.

I doubt we’ve heard the last of this issue, however it plays out. The judge may employ the same special master to get to the bottom of it, just in a different capacity.

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