# This Just In...Fox News Channel is bunch of lying fucks

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 22, 2021, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180 "2021-01-22T06:13:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1642 "2023-04-18T23:08:45Z")

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The construction “_We acknowledge the Court’s rulings finding certain claims about Dominion to be false_” was obviously carefully crafted by their top wordsmith to confuse the reader into thinking that Dominion’s claims were false.

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**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1643 "2023-04-18T23:23:48Z")

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Right. To me, its really meaningless and only says, “We acknowledge the Court ruled that way”. Too bad Dominion didn’t insist on a clearer admission that Fox intentionally and repeatedly lied. But hey, they are the injured party, so its their call. C’mon SmartMatic!

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**Author:** ![Flopnoodle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ad7895/32.png) [@Flopnoodle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flopnoodle)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1644 "2023-04-18T23:46:55Z")

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Well so much for that. A non-admission and nothing changes. Switching from popcorn to whiskey…

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1645 "2023-04-19T00:15:37Z")

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Exactly! I have no idea how “the settlement reflects FOX’s continued commitment to the highest journalistic standards”. The settlement is about FOX being a lying piece of shit “news” organization. Maybe Dominion can return to court over their lying in their admission of guilt.

Edited to add: That article that I copied and pasted the quote from no longer has that section. Maybe their lawyers advised them against posting that and they are recrafting their statement.

Murrow wept.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1646 "2023-04-19T00:55:57Z")

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> [@MikeF](#):
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> Right. To me, its really meaningless and only says, “We acknowledge the Court ruled that way”.

It’s like the civil court version of an Alford Plea.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1647 "2023-04-19T01:50:45Z")

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> [@Flopnoodle](#):
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> A non-admission and nothing changes.

A lot changes for Dominion (or at least their corporate overlords). Dominion Voting Systems made $17.5 million in 2022. They just made 45x their annual revenue in one fell swoop. Not a shocker they’d take that to the bank.

And they still have more lawsuits pending. I’m not sure what Newsmax and OAN are going to do, but their pockets aren’t as deep as Fox.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1648 "2023-04-19T02:08:39Z")

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And just like that, the Dominion settlement article is no longer on the Fox News main page which has well over 100 articles posted. Poof…it’s gone. They served their 60 minute sentence.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1649 "2023-04-19T02:26:04Z")

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Still top of the page on the _evil_, _evil_ CNN site, though.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1650 "2023-04-19T02:59:11Z")

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And by certain, they mean every single one; by moving forward, they mean keep conning the gullible.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1651 "2023-04-19T03:17:02Z")

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I like remembering that both the rector of the congregation and the bishop of the diocese called out Trump for coming onto the property to use the church as a backdrop.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1652 "2023-04-19T03:23:37Z")

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Now that Fox News has publicly admitted to being a bunch of lying fucks, Perhaps this thread should be moved elsewhere?

😄

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**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1653 "2023-04-19T04:09:07Z")

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News of the settlement is still absent from their page. Top story is

### [Elon Musk reveals to Tucker Carlson whether he’s seen evidence of alien life](https://www.foxnews.com/media/elon-musk-reveals-whether-seen-evidence-alien-life)

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1654 "2023-04-19T04:11:14Z")

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> [@steatopygia](#):
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> News of the settlement is still absent from their page. Top story is
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> ### [Elon Musk reveals to Tucker Carlson whether he’s seen evidence of alien life](https://www.foxnews.com/media/elon-musk-reveals-whether-seen-evidence-alien-life) -

He’s going to out his parents?

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1655 "2023-04-19T16:36:36Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> A lot changes for Dominion (or at least their corporate overlords). Dominion Voting Systems made $17.5 million in 2022. They just made 45x their annual revenue in one fell swoop. Not a shocker they’d take that to the bank.
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> And they still have more lawsuits pending. I’m not sure what Newsmax and OAN are going to do, but their pockets aren’t as deep as Fox.

And now they can afford to finance their legal team to go hammer and tongs on all those lawsuits. Not to mention, Smartmatic must be looking forward gleefully to getting their hands on all the stuff that came out in Dominion’s discovery.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1656 "2023-04-19T21:48:42Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> The construction “_We acknowledge the Court’s rulings finding certain claims about Dominion to be false_” was obviously carefully crafted by their top wordsmith to confuse the reader into thinking that Dominion’s claims were false.

So now Dominion can sue them for that! This could go on forever!

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1657 "2023-04-19T22:03:22Z")

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The headline I saw for that one was “Elon Musk and Tucker Carlson discuss sexual attraction”.

To which I say, they’re adults, if they’re both consenting, they should just go for it.

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2023, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1658 "2023-04-20T04:07:11Z")

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Ugh! My psyche is damaged for life.

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**Author:** ![Bookkeeper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bookkeeper/32/281_2.png) [@Bookkeeper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bookkeeper)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2023, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1659 "2023-04-20T06:45:16Z")

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I wonder if a good part of Fox’s decision to settle was to free up Dominion to go after OAN and Newsmax, who have far less in assets than Fox. A similar level of damages awarded through settlement or trial verdict would likely drive these Fox competitors into bankruptcy.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2023, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1660 "2023-04-20T11:18:56Z")

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In 2018, Staple Street Capital bought a 76.2% stake in Dominion for $38.3 million dollars. At the time, Dominion was thought to be worth about $80 million.

In the runup to the 2020 election, estimates put the market cap of Dominion at about $226 million.

Meaning: this is a TON of money for Dominion and Staple Street Capital.

As much as you and I would have loved for them to take this all the way, get a judgment for $1.6BN in compensatory and $14.4BN in punitive damages, and hopefully lay waste to Fox News, a) that path is lengthy, expensive, and uncertain to bear fruit, and b) this was about money for Dominion.

“The spreadsheet belies the humanity,” but the spreadsheet does reign supreme in Corporate America. Imputing noble aims to Dominion was a quixotic notion held by some.

I, for one, still smiled a big smile hearing about the $787.5BN check that FN has to write. And Smartmatic, Newsmax, OANN, and others _are_ still in the pipeline.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2023, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1661 "2023-04-20T11:41:17Z")

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What happens if Fox runs with the Republican playbook of “What if we don’t?” A person failing to pay could have their wages garnished, but what happens if a corporation doesn’t pay a judgment?

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