# This Just In...Fox News Channel is bunch of lying fucks **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 22, 2021, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180 "2021-01-22T06:13:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 85
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2023, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1682 "2023-04-23T00:15:55Z")
Since I live in a very Republican area, it’s pretty obvious what latest nonsense Fox is pushing - two separate people in the last few days have made comments about how criminals in New York are just let back out on the streets after they commit their crimes, and the city has been a hellhole. Any dopers in New York care to comment? Is the city noticeably worse, or more crime ridden, than it was during those halcyon days when trump was president? > **[Verifying claims about New York City violent crime](https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/crime-verify/violent-crime-rise-new-york-city-skyrocketing-wave-record-claims-misleading/536-3c536f20-ff57-4033-8dfe-bee45ac3c5be)** > > Crime in NYC has ticked up recently. But its violent crime rate is lower than historical peaks, and lower than that of most major U.S. cities. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2023, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1683 "2023-04-23T02:48:06Z")
I don’t live in NYC anymore, but my friends that are still there say that it’s mostly right-wing hype, it’s about the same as it ever was. The one thing I’ve noticed about the news coverage is that it focuses mostly on individual incidents….look over here, some thugs beat up an old man in broad daylight…New York is a hell hole. No, but it’s a big city, and with almost 9 million people there’s going to be horrible stuff happening daily. I stopped watching NBC Evening News over one of these stories……woman with baby in carriage is brutally attacked in broad daylight in an upscale neighborhood. After using the incident to wail about how violent and unsafe New York was becoming, they finally threw in the previously unmentioned fact that the assailant of the woman with the baby was her ex-husband, so it was domestic violence and not a stranger crime. Here’s a list of the 75 worst cities for violent crime. [https://www.populationu.com/gen/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-us](https://www.populationu.com/gen/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-us) New York City is not among them. Neither is LA or San Francisco. Washington DC made the list, but it’s pretty far down (52). For the most part, once you get past the first few entries, it’s a bunch of mid-sized cities that don’t have a reputation for being particularly dangerous, like Salt Lake City (32) or Winston-Salem, NC (21). ETA — If you scroll down inside the article I linked to, there is a second list based on 2021 and using somewhat different criteria……murder and property crime. That list goes to 175. New York City is not on it. ETA again……Fun fact, the worst city for property crimes in 2021 was Salt Lake City. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2023, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1684 "2023-04-23T02:54:11Z")
Does Fox cover the enormous heap of batshittery that goes on in Desantisland? ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2023, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1685 "2023-04-23T05:33:43Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > Not just a lien. They could levy assets - literally a court order to go in and start seizing stuff to pay the debt. I remember some years ago when Bank of America lost a lawsuit brought by a guy whose mortgage had been foreclosed in error and dragged their feet on paying up. The guy complained to the court and court sent officers to a branch to seize all of their loose stuff – desks, chairs, computers, even the office coffeemaker. It wasn’t enough to pay the settlement but BoA ponied the rest up before anther office got raided. Edit: Similar to **Lurkmeister’s** story but a bigger bank. Edit2: Boy am I arriving late. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2023, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1686 "2023-04-23T06:52:07Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > For the most part, once you get past the first few entries, it’s a bunch of mid-sized cities that don’t have a reputation for being particularly dangerous, like Salt Lake City (32) or Winston-Salem, NC (21). Dammit, the city I work in is #5 on the list. That sure makes me feel great about going to work. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2023, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1687 "2023-04-23T16:02:37Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I don’t live in NYC anymore, but my friends that are still there say that it’s mostly right-wing hype, it’s about the same as it ever was. Actually, it’s quite a bit better than it was in, say, the 1970-80s. For an apocalyptic view of how bad things were perceived to be back then, read Lawrence Block’s \*Eight Million Ways To Die" (and Block was a _fan_ of living in NYC). There’s an unintentionally semi-hilarious guest column in the Columbus (OH) Dispatch, from a New York-based journalist complaining about Ohio Republican congressman Jim Jordan’s focusing on how crime-ridden New York is supposed to be. His defense of the city is not what the tourism bureau might have hoped for. [“New Yorker: My city is expensive, at times smelly, but Jordan is wrong to call it crime ridden”](http://dispatch.com/story/opinion/columns/guest/2023/04/19/jim-jordan-alvin-bragg-serious-nerve-calling-nyc-crime-ridden-new-york-columbus-andy-hirschfeld-ohio/70127971007/) So, according to this guy, if you don’t mind sidewalks that often reek of urine and garbage, c’mon and visit, it’s a great place. 😬 ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2023, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1688 "2023-04-23T16:04:06Z")
I lived in NYC from 1980 to 2020, I witnessed the changes. It was way worse in the ‘80’s. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2023, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1689 "2023-04-23T17:14:27Z")
According to [this documentary](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escape_from_New_York) it was pretty bad in 1997. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2023, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1690 "2023-04-23T22:51:15Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Here’s a list of the 75 worst cities for violent crime. Hey, 4 Ohio towns made the top 40!! Go, Jim Jordan, go! Including my old hometown of Dayton Ohio! It had dropped to number 17. Back in the day, it was number 8. ( I left in the 80s) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2023, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1691 "2023-04-23T23:33:40Z")
> [@BeepKillBeep](#): > > It sounds like it is going to be paid by taxpayers (via a tax write-off) and probably insurance. Insurance isn’t free, though, and this is going to have a massive effect on their rates. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2023, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1692 "2023-04-23T23:36:51Z")
> [@BeepKillBeep](#): > > It sounds like it is going to be paid by taxpayers (via a tax write-off) and probably insurance. Interesting article about that, including some fairly pointed – if speculative – specifics: > **[Fox's settlement with Dominion unlikely to cost it $787.5M](https://apnews.com/article/fox-dominion-lawsuit-settlement-election-6a729ece4b4f351a6334be13b49d4869)** > > Fox Corp.’s $787.5 million settlement with Dominion Voting Systems over defamation charges is eye-popping, but the ultimate cost to the media company is likely to be much lower. Fox has several levers it can pull to help defray the cost of the... ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2023, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1693 "2023-04-23T23:59:51Z")
Busy bee back then, weren’t you? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1694 "2023-04-24T15:36:36Z")
It is a great day in America! Fox News just got rid of Tucker Carlson! > ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1695 "2023-04-24T15:48:02Z")
Are you shitting me?!? [runs to Google] Holy guacamole, it’s true! ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1696 "2023-04-24T15:50:47Z")
It started flashing all over Twitter a little while ago … I’m still not convinced. I don’t trust that weaselly little shit any further than I do Fox ‘News’ in general. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1697 "2023-04-24T15:51:09Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > It is a great day in America! Fox News just got rid of Tucker Carlson! - > > [https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/1650523507795566592?t=13Kkl199j2Y0qXbyDTsblg&s=19](https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/1650523507795566592?t=13Kkl199j2Y0qXbyDTsblg&s=19) “It was your fault. You made us let you run wild.” ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1698 "2023-04-24T15:52:38Z")
I suspect it was more for his honesty (I hate Trump passionately) than his lies. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1699 "2023-04-24T15:53:05Z")
Or, more likely… > ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1700 "2023-04-24T15:54:27Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > I’m still not convinced. It’s being reported on all the news channels, so I am assuming someone picked up a phone, called Fox, and got verification. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180/1701 "2023-04-24T15:59:08Z")
Another one… > **[Tucker Carlson out at Fox News | CNN Business](https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/24/media/tucker-carlson-fox-news/index.html)** > > Fox News and Tucker Carlson, the right-wing extremist who hosted the network's highly rated 8pm hour, have severed ties, the network said in a stunning announcement Monday. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180.md?page=84) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-fox-news-channel-is-bunch-of-lying-fucks/931180.md?page=86)