# This just in!  IT SNOWS IN MICHIGAN!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 15, 2002, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-it-snows-in-michigan/142839 "2002-12-15T03:26:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![blanx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f04885/32.png) [@blanx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blanx)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2002, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-it-snows-in-michigan/142839/21 "2002-12-16T16:00:34Z")

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Hey! The weather people were right about Detroit last night! I had 54 microns of slippery ice on my driveway this am…

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**Author:** ![sx633](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/22d042/32.png) [@sx633](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sx633)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2002, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-it-snows-in-michigan/142839/22 "2002-12-16T16:52:15Z")

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Yeah, blanx, but they were predicting 108-216 microns.

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**Author:** ![minor7flat5](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/minor7flat5/32/258_2.png) [@minor7flat5](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minor7flat5)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2002, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-it-snows-in-michigan/142839/23 "2002-12-16T17:22:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Persephone \*  
> **Yes, it snows here every winter. But, we’ve had some mild ones lately. yeah, a couple of years ago, we had that nasty blizzard. But it hasn’t really been too bitterly cold here in December in a while. The cold & snow we’ve been getting is more like February weather, not December weather.**

So how is a typical Michigan winter these days?  
I always tell my friends about my fond childhood memories of winter back home in Michigan

It seems that we didn’t see grass from mid-November until some time in February, and then it was only a quick peek.

Does my memory fail me? Have Michigan winters softened over the years?

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**Author:** ![slortar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@slortar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slortar)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2002, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-it-snows-in-michigan/142839/24 "2002-12-16T18:00:14Z")

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The last really good Michigan winter was back in '97. Wasn’t that the year the ground froze to a depth of 6 feet in the UP causing all that plumbing damage?

BTW, my Mom makes **excellent** pasties. The trick to a good pastie is to never buy them from a store–find an old yooper lady to make 'em for you. 😃

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**Author:** ![CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crankyasanoldman/32/11670_2.png) [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrankyAsAnOldMan)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2002, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-it-snows-in-michigan/142839/25 "2002-12-16T18:12:42Z")

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Right on, the weather reports here never cease to amaze me, for this very reason. For fuck’s sake, get a sense of perspective, you nitwit meteorologists.

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**Author:** ![Velma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/85e7bf/32.png) [@Velma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velma)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2002, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-it-snows-in-michigan/142839/26 "2002-12-16T19:23:59Z")

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> \*Originally posted by minor7flat5 \*  
> \*\*So how is a typical Michigan winter these days?  
> I always tell my friends about my fond childhood memories of winter back home in Michigan
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> It seems that we didn’t see grass from mid-November until some time in February, and then it was only a quick peek.
> 
> Does my memory fail me? Have Michigan winters softened over the years? \*\*

That still sounds about right, but the last few years have been a little off. Last year we got a record amount of snow, but it seemed to come all at once and then go so it didn’t feel like a snowy winter at all. This year has been pretty mild so far, here in West MI we have gotten a few snowfalls, but it hasn’t been sticking. I’ll be sad if we don’t have snow for Christmas, but it’s nice to not have the months and months of below zero temps. (It’s been in the upper 30’s, low 40’s here lately, not really cold IMO.) We have been getting more sun than usual lately too, and that’s nice.

I still expect snow in November, it’s rare if we don’t have snow by Thanksgiving, yet people still seem to be surprised by it every year. And the snow still lasts until around March, or at least the piles in the parking lots do.

Ahhh, yes. The winter of '97 was indeed a big winter snowfest. I recall many a morning sliding down the hill by my house in my car, and having friends and neighbors all get together to dig each other’s cars out of the snow. Some cars were not seen again until Spring.

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**Author:** ![shelbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@shelbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shelbo)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2002, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-it-snows-in-michigan/142839/27 "2002-12-16T20:10:38Z")

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Hi, howyadoin?

Cold enough for ya?

😃

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**Author:** ![Siemsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@Siemsi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siemsi)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2002, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-it-snows-in-michigan/142839/28 "2002-12-17T14:38:40Z")

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I actually miss my Michigan snow. Down here in Cincinnati, these idiots freak out when it starts flurrying. I mean, this is nothing. Shit, it’s all melted right now!

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2002, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-it-snows-in-michigan/142839/29 "2002-12-17T15:25:58Z")

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The high temperature predicted for today in East Texas is near 70F. Ahh, short sleeves for Christmas.

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**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2002, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-it-snows-in-michigan/142839/30 "2002-12-17T15:29:22Z")

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It’ll be 50 degrees here in Ohio tomorrow.🙂

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2002, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-it-snows-in-michigan/142839/31 "2002-12-17T15:41:00Z")

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High of about 60 yesterday. 54 today.

You should really check out the local Atlanta news. They will go _live_ to some news intern in a Wal-Mart parking lot to tell us that “It’s really cold here, Ken, and as you can see behind me people here are sure bundling up” [\<some guy walks by in a windbreaker\>] “the forecast predicts it to dip below freezing tonight with a low of 31, so make sure you take the proper precautions as it’s not supposed to warm back up to the fifties for two days”. Honestly, why do we need live coverage of that? It’s kind of funny though, as the local stations go live for _everything_ (“I’m here on the side of I-20, where just 14 hours ago a tractor trailer overturned, setting several cows loose on the interstate and blocking traffic for two hours until the animals could be apprehended by the local police”\*)

\*Actually happened… twice! Gotta love this city

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**Author:** ![anya\_marie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@anya\_marie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anya_marie)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2002, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-it-snows-in-michigan/142839/32 "2002-12-17T16:11:33Z")

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How does a guy with a nickname like"Bruiser" get to be such a crybaby about snow? What a putz.

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**Author:** ![minor7flat5](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/minor7flat5/32/258_2.png) [@minor7flat5](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minor7flat5)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2002, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-it-snows-in-michigan/142839/33 "2002-12-17T17:37:23Z")

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My wife’s aunt called a couple of weeks ago from Rio (her home town). She said that the temperature had been 45 degrees for some days. It seemed kind of cool for this time of year until I realized that she was talking Celcius.

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**Author:** ![Ring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Ring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ring)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2002, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-it-snows-in-michigan/142839/34 "2002-12-17T22:50:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by anya marie \*  
> \*\*How does a guy with a nickname like"Bruiser" get to be such a crybaby about snow? What a putz. \*\*

Dick the Bruiser is the greatest professional wrestler that ever lived. One of his fellow wrestlers (Haystack Calhoun I think) boasted that he had such a strong stomach that he could lie on his back under a ladder, let the Bruiser jump on Haystack’s stomach from the top of the ladder, and it wouldn’t hurt a bit. So Dick the B climbed the ladder and jumped right on the guy’s neck. Oh God it was so funny tears welled in my eyes.

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**Author:** ![St.Urho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e7dd6/32.png) [@St.Urho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/St.Urho)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2002, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-it-snows-in-michigan/142839/35 "2002-12-17T23:26:44Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Milossarian \*  
> \*\*EXCUSE ME, my dear?
> 
> I live in the northwestern lower. When the cold air comes down in a northwesterly pattern, over the top of Lake Michigan, it creates a little white blob on the map, a little snow-making machine.
> 
> THAT’s where I live.
> 
> I’ll match you inch-for-inch, chickie. 😉 \*\*

While not being a chickie myself…

that’ll be [301 inches](http://www.crh.noaa.gov/mqt/snow_record.html) from last year. Maybe if you add up the last 2-3 years you can hit that…😃

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**Author:** ![Xploder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/a183cd/32.png) [@Xploder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xploder)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2002, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-it-snows-in-michigan/142839/36 "2002-12-18T00:19:21Z")

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All I have to say is that we expect temperatures to be … oh … around 46 or so tomorrow 🙂

Oh yeah, it’s gonna maybe get up in the 50’s the next day.

Not bad for Mid-Michigan huh?

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**Author:** ![slortar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@slortar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slortar)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2002, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-it-snows-in-michigan/142839/37 "2002-12-18T12:36:53Z")

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It’s raining. A week before Christmas. Oy vey.

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**Author:** ![Velma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/85e7bf/32.png) [@Velma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velma)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2002, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-it-snows-in-michigan/142839/38 "2002-12-18T14:30:05Z")

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Ok, this is just crazy. Apparently I was wrong about snowy winters here, it is indeed _raining_ right now and about 50 degrees outside. I was awakened this morning to a full-out thunderstorm, lots of lightning. This is the first thunderstorm in December I have ever experienced. My worldview is collapsing!

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**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2002, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-it-snows-in-michigan/142839/39 "2002-12-18T17:01:17Z")

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> \*Originally posted by slortar \*  
> \*\*The last really good Michigan winter was back in '97. Wasn’t that the year the ground froze to a depth of 6 feet in the UP causing all that plumbing damage?
> 
> BTW, my Mom makes **excellent** pasties. The trick to a good pastie is to never buy them from a store–find an old yooper lady to make 'em for you. 😃 \*\*

er, where have you been? As **St. Urho** pointed out, the Marquette area got 301 inches last year. The same link states that we’ve exceeded 250 inches in 4 of the past 7 years. I don’t know what you’re comparing things to, but to me, 250+ inches counts as a really good winter. Beat that, trolls!

As for pasties, yup, the homemade ones are best. We live about a block and half from a pasty shop, so pasties are on the menu quite a bit at the Athena household. Lil’ pockets of yumminess!

I see noone here has mentioned Cudighi, my favorite UP treat. Actually, Cudighi is not really found outside of Marquette County, that I know of, so it’s not even a UP thing.

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**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2002, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-just-in-it-snows-in-michigan/142839/40 "2002-12-18T17:03:24Z")

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Sssshhhhhh… shut up about the rain. We’re tryin’ to preserve an IMAGE here, goddamit!

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