# This kid must be high

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-kid-must-be-high/347345>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 7, 2006, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-kid-must-be-high/347345 "2006-03-07T04:20:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/65b543/32.png) [@Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hero_From_Sector_7G)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2011, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-kid-must-be-high/347345/221 "2011-03-25T15:51:34Z")

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> [@duffer](#):
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> I’d ask if he pays his bills on time

Have you paid all your bills on time?

I’ve you’ve ever missed a bill once, that must mean you are an irresponsible human being. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![bhamlaxy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d6d6ee/32.png) [@bhamlaxy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bhamlaxy)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2011, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-kid-must-be-high/347345/222 "2011-03-25T16:53:02Z")

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> [@Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](#):
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> Have you paid all your bills on time?
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> I’ve you’ve ever missed a bill once, that must mean you are an irresponsible human being. :rolleyes:

I paid that one cable bill a week late. I just got so high for such a long period of time that I felt this urge to neglect all responsibilities!

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2011, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-kid-must-be-high/347345/223 "2011-03-25T17:26:33Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> Where does this number come from, please?

83% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2011, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-kid-must-be-high/347345/224 "2011-03-25T17:35:12Z")

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I have to say, this is a very interesting resurrection of a zombie thread. For what it’s worth, the drinking age in Alberta is 18, and pot use is very much a non-issue. I find a drinking age of 21 and moral and legal outrage about smoking a little weed to be strange ideas.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2011, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-kid-must-be-high/347345/225 "2011-03-25T18:39:07Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Or whether he lasts more than one, possibly two, semesters if he does.

It is literally incredible to me that people think that marijuana use and college attendance are incompatible.

College is just about the best time to smoke pot.

It’s true that if you’re kind of an idiot, you can’t really afford to make yourself any stupider by smoking pot or drinking alcohol. Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life. But come on.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2011, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-kid-must-be-high/347345/226 "2011-03-25T19:56:33Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> It is literally incredible to me that people think that marijuana use and college attendance are incompatible.

I know; it’s hilarious.

I think it somehow feeds their basic belief that marijuana is Bad. And because it’s Bad, it must cause you to fail at college (or your job, or whatever). The fact that many people use marijuana and don’t fail is never accepted as evidence that marijuana might not be a big problem, but every single instance of a marijuana smoker fucking up is taken as incontrovertible proof that marijuana is Bad.

Most of the people i hang out with not only passed college just fine, but went on to get Masters and/or PhD degrees in fields ranging from English and History to Computer Science and Biology. And plenty of these people smoked weed during their undergraduate and graduate degrees, and afterwards.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2011, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-kid-must-be-high/347345/227 "2011-03-25T20:20:11Z")

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Heh - that reminds me of a “How I Met Your Mother” episode I watched last night - Marshall was having a party with a bunch of law students (I think they were just graduating, or further on in the courses, anyway), and it showed them being drunk and stupid, and stopped the picture to tell us what they’re currently doing - “Congressman;” “Current Attorney General;” etc. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2011, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-kid-must-be-high/347345/228 "2011-03-25T20:45:47Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> 83% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

Cite?

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2011, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-kid-must-be-high/347345/229 "2011-03-25T21:39:31Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Or whether he lasts more than one, possibly two, semesters if he does.

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

_gasp_

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!

Good lord, that was funny.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2011, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-kid-must-be-high/347345/230 "2011-03-25T22:42:25Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> Cite?

[Here ya go.](http://www.thebereancall.org/node/8045) 🙂

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2011, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-kid-must-be-high/347345/231 "2011-03-25T23:18:39Z")

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> [@duffer](#):
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> Well, he is 17. 17 year olds have all the answers.

And a fine grasp of consequences.

“You do realize that you’ve just publicly admitted to a crime and that your family, your friends, everyone in your school, everyone at the universities you’ve applied for, any future employer, and law enforcement agencies can all read this?”  
“Oh shit! My mom can read it?”

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2011, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-kid-must-be-high/347345/232 "2011-03-25T23:23:45Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> College is just about the best time to smoke pot.

Drugs weren’t my thing. I was more interested in having sex with lesbians.

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**Author:** ![bhamlaxy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d6d6ee/32.png) [@bhamlaxy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bhamlaxy)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-kid-must-be-high/347345/233 "2011-03-26T07:01:20Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> And a fine grasp of consequences.
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> “You do realize that you’ve just publicly admitted to a crime and that your family, your friends, everyone in your school, everyone at the universities you’ve applied for, any future employer, and law enforcement agencies can all read this?”  
> “Oh shit! My mom can read it?”

Luckily, none of that ever happened. I think the only people that read this article and really delved into this random kid were you guys!

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**Author:** ![jesuslynch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e99b99/32.png) [@jesuslynch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jesuslynch)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-kid-must-be-high/347345/234 "2011-03-26T07:11:43Z")

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> [@bhamlaxy](#):
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> I paid that one cable bill a week late. I just got so high for such a long period of time that I felt this urge to neglect all responsibilities!

[So, you spaced on the date?](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n2MqPpWKnY)

:smack:

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-kid-must-be-high/347345/235 "2011-03-26T07:28:30Z")

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> [@bhamlaxy](#):
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> Luckily, none of that ever happened. I think the only people that read this article and really delved into this random kid were you guys!

Really? Because all I said had happened was that he publicly admitted to a crime. And I’m pretty sure that’s true. It’s the point of the thread after all.

All of the rest were things that could happen. Are you saying they can’t happen?

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-kid-must-be-high/347345/236 "2011-03-26T07:44:43Z")

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> [@bhamlaxy](#):
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> A stoner would tend to stay at home, giggle at some stupid TV show and kill a bag of cheetos.

Or write the next great novel, or compose the next great album, or create a great painting or drawing or write a paper for a class comparing the medieval Talmud to modern day case law which would earn an A+ (the latter, I actually did, in my sophomore year of college.) Not _everyone_ instantly becomes dumb when they get high. For a lot of people, it enhances their creativity and productivity. I know the quote above is actually _defending_ marijuana, so I’m not attacking its intent, but it perpetuates an unfortunate stereotype that should be allowed to die. Pot has the power to greatly accelerate the mind; it doesn’t just make people laugh and watch TV.

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**Author:** ![Nancarrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c37758/32.png) [@Nancarrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nancarrow)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-kid-must-be-high/347345/237 "2011-03-26T10:16:20Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Or whether he lasts more than one, possibly two, semesters if he does.

Heh. A most amusing fail. Your bugs bunny quote is right on, ironically.

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**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-kid-must-be-high/347345/238 "2011-03-26T11:38:03Z")

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Mr Muir had an excuse here, being 17. But I interview adult musicians all the time that say even dumber things. One in particular told me the following:  
“And you should print this: I can get girls, but I can’t keep them,” he said “and I have certain habits, narcotics related, that fuel songs. To be honest, I’m admittedly a very self destructive person, and with relationships … it’s not that I try to fuck it up, but it just happens.”

My editor killed the quote, but when I read it back to the guy a few days later he said “wow…I shouldn’t do interviews when I’m drunk”

I was interviewing a fairly famous rock star one time who made a remark about lynching that would have caused a shit storm if we had printed it – and if he meant it the way it came out I would have. People say a lot of dumb things into a voice recorder.

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**Author:** ![bhamlaxy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d6d6ee/32.png) [@bhamlaxy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bhamlaxy)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-kid-must-be-high/347345/239 "2011-03-26T20:53:15Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Really? Because all I said had happened was that he publicly admitted to a crime. And I’m pretty sure that’s true. It’s the point of the thread after all.
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> All of the rest were things that could happen. Are you saying they can’t happen?

No, just that I said what I said with near certainty there would be no consequences, and I was correct.

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**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-kid-must-be-high/347345/240 "2011-04-04T21:32:11Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> Where does this number come from, please?

OH Drummer et al, Accid. Anal. Prev., 2004, 36(2):239-248.

Ramaekers JG et al, Drug Alcohol Dept, 2004, 73(2):109-19.

PubMed Central has the abstracts, but the full papers aren’t on-line that I know of.

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