# This lady is a magician: Porn star makeovers **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 14, 2013, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-lady-is-a-magician-porn-star-makeovers/652875 "2013-03-14T00:17:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![TheChileanBlob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thechileanblob/32/435_2.png) [@TheChileanBlob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheChileanBlob)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-lady-is-a-magician-porn-star-makeovers/652875/21 "2013-03-14T15:47:18Z")
Oh, come on. None of these women is “ugly.” They have blotchy skin and pimples, but jeez, who among us doesn’t? (Not me.) And doesn’t anyone appearing on camera _need_ heavy makeup? Porn stars just have a little extra glam. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-lady-is-a-magician-porn-star-makeovers/652875/22 "2013-03-14T16:00:03Z")
> [@TheChileanBlob](#): > > Oh, come on. None of these women is “ugly.” They have blotchy skin and pimples, but jeez, who among us doesn’t? (Not me.) > > And doesn’t anyone appearing on camera _need_ heavy makeup? Porn stars just have a little extra glam. Most of these are from plain to unattractive. Women I wouldn’t give a second glance to if they were in the room with me. Many amatuers you find on sites are much more attractive. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-lady-is-a-magician-porn-star-makeovers/652875/23 "2013-03-14T16:20:52Z")
This make me feel soooo much better about my natural complexion! Almost all of these women look hung over w/o makeup. I don’t think they’re all ugly hags without it but everyone’s look did improve IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-lady-is-a-magician-porn-star-makeovers/652875/24 "2013-03-14T16:36:07Z")
> [@BrotherCadfael](#): > > Way too much duckface, and most of them look like they were hit with Homer’s makeup gun at its highest setting. Women will like what I tell them to like. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-lady-is-a-magician-porn-star-makeovers/652875/25 "2013-03-14T16:53:06Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > The difference is so striking in some of those that I can’t help but think maybe she uglified them a bit for their “before” pics. Na, I don’t think so. It’s pretty amazing how bad natural skin and stuff can look on camera. Shiny skin, dark circles, blotches, zits, and light lashes all blend together in photos in a less than glamorous look— in fact, what looks great while walking around on the day to day, might not be so great under the flash of a camera. It cracks me up when my friends who wear no makeup complain that they aren’t photogenic in the slightest/ hate pictures of themselves/ etc. Every so often, I’ll offer to do their makeup and take some pictures of them to prove that they, too, can be just as pretty as the girls in the magazines. More than once I’ve had someone cry at the results. I’m no wizard-- makeup is just an awesome tool. I’ve made no bones about my love of makeup when posting on this board-- it’s just a fun, artistic thing to play with. It can be used lightly or heavily, naturally or editorially, and the end result is almost always a person getting their confidence boosted. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Universe\_Lashes\_Out](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8797f3/32.png) [@The\_Universe\_Lashes\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Universe_Lashes_Out)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-lady-is-a-magician-porn-star-makeovers/652875/26 "2013-03-14T17:08:11Z")
You know, I’d wondered why so many porn stars looked like ugly girls with layers of hideous makeup caked up. Now I know. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-lady-is-a-magician-porn-star-makeovers/652875/27 "2013-03-14T17:22:23Z")
I’m guessing most of them have horrible skin _because_ they’re always wearing inch-thick makeup. They’re not just clogging their pores, they’re paving them and adding an extra layer of tarmac. Also: Puma Swede’s real face will haunt my dreams in a very, very bad way. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-lady-is-a-magician-porn-star-makeovers/652875/28 "2013-03-14T17:34:07Z")
I agree with the makeup probably causing blemishes. Anything but Bare Minerals wrecks my skin. Plus those girls are probably sweating under that makeup because of the uh physical nature of their jobs, so it makes sense. FWIW I don’t think anyone’s makeup looks “caked on.” I’ve seen plenty of caked on and that’s not it. ---
**Author:** ![TheChileanBlob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thechileanblob/32/435_2.png) [@TheChileanBlob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheChileanBlob)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-lady-is-a-magician-porn-star-makeovers/652875/29 "2013-03-14T17:41:42Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Most of these are from plain to unattractive. Women I wouldn’t give a second glance to if they were in the room with me. Many amatuers you find on sites are much more attractive. They all look like normal girls to me. Maybe you come from a place where everyone is drop dead gorgeous, though. You could do this same makeover story about news anchors or TV/movie actors. Just about everyone is plain without makeup. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-lady-is-a-magician-porn-star-makeovers/652875/30 "2013-03-14T17:50:05Z")
> [@Sunspace](#): > > This. Several of the woman look more attractive without makeup. I am _so_ not a fan of heavy makeup. I’d say most of them, they look like really cute girls with bad complexions at worst. Which is really not all that shocking at that age. And the ones who truly don’t look very good are older and don’t actually look all that good with makeup either. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-lady-is-a-magician-porn-star-makeovers/652875/31 "2013-03-14T18:22:27Z")
> [@Una\_Persson](#): > > The improvements are stunning. I’d pay a lot to have her work on me. Meh. Save some bucks and just head on over to your local [Glamour Shots](http://www.glamourshots.com/) - pretty much the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-lady-is-a-magician-porn-star-makeovers/652875/32 "2013-03-14T18:25:44Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > Meh. Save some bucks and just head on over to your local [Glamour Shots](http://www.glamourshots.com/) - pretty much the same thing. Yeah, dontcha know, **Una**? Makeup artists are just hacks-- any ol’ person working at the mall can do the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-lady-is-a-magician-porn-star-makeovers/652875/33 "2013-03-14T18:50:16Z")
> [@TheChileanBlob](#): > > They all look like normal girls to me. Maybe you come from a place where everyone is drop dead gorgeous, though. > > You could do this same makeover story about news anchors or TV/movie actors. Just about everyone is plain without makeup. Yep that’s where I live. New Jersey. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-lady-is-a-magician-porn-star-makeovers/652875/34 "2013-03-14T19:20:42Z")
> [@Una\_Persson](#): > > The improvements are stunning. I’d pay a lot to have her work on me. I suggest starting out with a few amateur videos - you’ll have a better chance at landing some paying gigs. And then who knows, you may get your wish! ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-lady-is-a-magician-porn-star-makeovers/652875/35 "2013-03-15T01:27:51Z")
> [@Beware\_of\_Doug](#): > > We seem to need (a lot of us) pure sexual icons to get off to. You might fantasize about Jenny at the coffee bar or Jessi in your seminar. You probably do. But the next time you buy from Jenny or discuss with Jessi, it’s going to throw a shadow over those interactions if you can’t keep your mind off the way Jenny’s body looks under that apron or how Jessi’s bare feet keep kicking off her shoes. You know it’s not fair to them, and indeed, even if you and Jenny/Jessi were somehow to get a thing going, your seeing them as mere bodies would only screw that up. This is very true. I mentioned this in another recent thread about writing - specifically, basing characters on people you know in real life. In my case, most of my writing has been “erotic fiction”. I started writing this stuff when I was still a teenager (back in the early 1980s), and of course I based my female characters on the girls I knew from school. Then I kept doing it as I got older. One day, not long after I turned 30, it just sort of hit me; I realized I needed to stop doing that, for exactly the reasons you stated. My earlier rationalization was that I was writing the stories for my own amusement, and nobody else was ever going to read them. But I realized the problem was with how they were affecting _my_ perception of these young women, and that it wasn’t right. Thankfully, the Internet came along and provided me with a way to find “inspiration” for my characters in the form of models and actresses that I had no chance of ever meeting in real life. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-lady-is-a-magician-porn-star-makeovers/652875/36 "2013-03-15T01:39:00Z")
Hollywood Celebrities without makeup are just as surprising. Some look ok and others pretty rough without makeup. > **[Stars caught without makeup](https://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/stars-makeup-real-face-fame-gallery-1.21019)** > > Stars may have an army of makeup artists on standby for even the tiniest of touchups, but just like everyone else, they choose to go makeup free to reveal their natural beauty. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-lady-is-a-magician-porn-star-makeovers/652875/37 "2013-03-15T05:36:50Z")
> [@BrotherCadfael](#): > > Way too much duckface …and way too much dickface. ---
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-lady-is-a-magician-porn-star-makeovers/652875/38 "2013-03-15T09:54:03Z")
I’ll take Puma Swede and Larkin Love without the makeup. ---
**Author:** ![nashiitashii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7c8e57/32.png) [@nashiitashii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nashiitashii)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-lady-is-a-magician-porn-star-makeovers/652875/39 "2013-03-15T11:28:57Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Really? I would consider most of them close to ugly before the make up. On a naturally beautiful woman less is more. Some of these need lots of help. I think that the person who wrote the OP specifically picked out the plainer ones from the 59-photo slideshow, as most of these women are much plainer than some of the ones in the slideshow on the Huffington Post article. I wouldn’t call any of them super attractive sans makeup, but some of the OP’s choices aren’t that great _with_ makeup either. > [@ZipperJJ](#): > > This make me feel soooo much better about my natural complexion! > > Almost all of these women look hung over w/o makeup. I don’t think they’re all ugly hags without it but everyone’s look did improve IMHO. I feel the same way. My first thought was “Wow, I’m so glad I can leave the house without makeup and not look like I had a rough night!” when looking at these. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2014, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-lady-is-a-magician-porn-star-makeovers/652875/42 "2014-12-15T01:28:43Z")
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