# This may be the wrong-ist thing I've ever seen on crappy TV **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 2, 2024, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-may-be-the-wrong-ist-thing-ive-ever-seen-on-crappy-tv/999719 "2024-04-02T04:52:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-may-be-the-wrong-ist-thing-ive-ever-seen-on-crappy-tv/999719/21 "2024-04-02T13:42:14Z")
How 'bout they stop replaying the commercial for some military aid for injured soldiers. They show the Tower with smoke pouring out of it. Now that seems like it would upset people. The ad plays 100 times a day. And is probably a worthwhile organization. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-may-be-the-wrong-ist-thing-ive-ever-seen-on-crappy-tv/999719/22 "2024-04-02T13:53:34Z")
It’s not like that’s the only change in the skyline since then. I don’t know specifically, but in a city as big as New York, there have to have been other buildings that were demolished or built between when the series took place and now. Do they change all of those, too? And @Beckdawrek , the correct form would be “could’ve”. It’s pronounced like “could of”, but it’s a contraction of “could have”. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-may-be-the-wrong-ist-thing-ive-ever-seen-on-crappy-tv/999719/23 "2024-04-02T14:19:57Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > And you can tell they’re cut out. Do you mean that they cut out the short bit of film that showed the Twin Towers, or that they left that bit of film in but (digitally?) erased the Towers themselves from it? ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-may-be-the-wrong-ist-thing-ive-ever-seen-on-crappy-tv/999719/24 "2024-04-02T15:16:26Z")
All I know is, when a random Law and Order\* street scene where you can see the WTC in the background comes on, I am happy to remember the world where they once existed. \*or McClod, or Kojak, but I don’t watch them as much. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-may-be-the-wrong-ist-thing-ive-ever-seen-on-crappy-tv/999719/25 "2024-04-02T15:16:42Z")
Chopped the building out of the picture. You can see the stubs of the buildings in it. I posit that is very disturbing to see Clumsily done at best. Ignorant at worst. I’m gonna try to pause it tonight and capture a picture of it. If I can get something viewable, I will try to post it. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-may-be-the-wrong-ist-thing-ive-ever-seen-on-crappy-tv/999719/26 "2024-04-02T15:23:08Z")
Yeah. I know I know how these things work with language. It doesn’t always come out typing like we do on these keypads and keyboards. Like I said I type _coulda_ so often my tablet auto goes there. I try to correct it when it seems wrong somehow. Don’t always work for me. And it was late. Yeah, that’s my excuses, teacher.😊 My dog ate my homework. (Just joking you) ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-may-be-the-wrong-ist-thing-ive-ever-seen-on-crappy-tv/999719/27 "2024-04-02T15:47:18Z")
I don’t watch TV because I no longer have cable, so I went to good ol’ YouTube and watched the opening credits for _Barney Miller_ there. It’s quite possible that TPTB edited the opening credits after they were posted, but from what I saw, the opening for seasons 2 and 3 include the WTC towers. Season 1 does not. In the comments, one person asked why the skyline looked like a hellscape, and that’s a good description of it. It’s not just the WTC that’s been cut out; it’s all kinds of buildings, and they all have jagged edges, like someone snapped them off. Is [THIS](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG5cSxT7ZIw) what you’re seeing, Beck? ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-may-be-the-wrong-ist-thing-ive-ever-seen-on-crappy-tv/999719/28 "2024-04-02T16:19:47Z")
Sorta related – anyone remember which show’s opening included a shot of the Boston John Hancock building during it’s Fort Wayne period? (When the glass windows that made up its skin where falling out and being temporarily covered up with plywood) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-may-be-the-wrong-ist-thing-ive-ever-seen-on-crappy-tv/999719/29 "2024-04-02T16:29:39Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > 1970-80s > > I can see if the series was set for modern times. But the 70s? > 23 years later after 9/11, we can’t see something so old as Barney Miller, with the original opening? It’s strange to think then when they filmed the credit scene, they probably included the World Trade Center because of its newness. The building was only a few months old when the first episodes of _Barney Miller_ were being produced. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-may-be-the-wrong-ist-thing-ive-ever-seen-on-crappy-tv/999719/30 "2024-04-02T16:31:39Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Probably spelled ‘wrong-ist’ wrong, as well. I was going to point out that mistake. But it would have been wrong-ist of me to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-may-be-the-wrong-ist-thing-ive-ever-seen-on-crappy-tv/999719/31 "2024-04-02T17:47:25Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Chopped the building out of the picture. You can see the stubs of the buildings in it. > I posit that is very disturbing to see > > Clumsily done at best. Ignorant at worst. > > I’m gonna try to pause it tonight and capture a picture of it. If I can get something viewable, I will try to post it. uh, the opening titles for season 1 is a different angle of the skyline. It is showing midtown Manhattan. You aren’t seeing the WTC because they are south of that image. It’s similar to this shot also from the 1970s. [![](https://media.istockphoto.com/id/1172679829/photo/cityscape-of-new-york-city-seen-from-the-east-river.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=O9Lz6NU1F2Yj8w4w4n-xttzEWmOrBla9_3K6GHExYJo=) ](https://media.istockphoto.com/id/1172679829/photo/cityscape-of-new-york-city-seen-from-the-east-river.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=O9Lz6NU1F2Yj8w4w4n-xttzEWmOrBla9_3K6GHExYJo=) The titles for seasons 2 and 3 are from the south looking northwards past the towers. But sure, go ahead and write the network that someone “chopped them out” of the image. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-may-be-the-wrong-ist-thing-ive-ever-seen-on-crappy-tv/999719/32 "2024-04-02T17:55:20Z")
> [@nelliebly](#): > > After 9/11, a lot of people found that seeing the Twin Towers was extremely upsetting. A lot of people felt that way **before** 9/11. ::ducks and runs:: ---
**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-may-be-the-wrong-ist-thing-ive-ever-seen-on-crappy-tv/999719/33 "2024-04-02T17:59:52Z")
What season are you watching? The twin towers did not appear in the first season opening credits. The picture overall had a more blue-ish cast as well, which might account for your perception that “the colors have changed.” ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-may-be-the-wrong-ist-thing-ive-ever-seen-on-crappy-tv/999719/34 "2024-04-02T18:52:17Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > Note that the WTC was not in the season one credits. > [@Beckdawrek](#): > > But, I saw it. And you can tell they’re cut out. > > I’m not sure what season these episodes appeared in the original run of the show. It’s not at all the complete series. > [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > uh, the opening titles for season 1 is a different angle of the skyline. > [@MrAtoz](#): > > What season are you watching? > > The twin towers did not appear in the first season opening credits. Are we there yet? ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-may-be-the-wrong-ist-thing-ive-ever-seen-on-crappy-tv/999719/35 "2024-04-02T19:09:26Z")
Worst pick-up line ever: Hey babe, wanna make like the Twin Towers and go down on me? ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-may-be-the-wrong-ist-thing-ive-ever-seen-on-crappy-tv/999719/36 "2024-04-02T19:21:44Z")
Season One: [![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f8/Barney_Miller.jpg) ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f8/Barney_Miller.jpg) Season Two [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/roHYXrLhmHc/hqdefault.jpg) ](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/roHYXrLhmHc/hqdefault.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-may-be-the-wrong-ist-thing-ive-ever-seen-on-crappy-tv/999719/37 "2024-04-02T19:33:48Z")
Okay. I’m convinced. I love the Dope. Y’all always set me straight. Now I feel less outraged and more right-ist…umm…wait, maybe that sounds wronger. I believe you guys. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Sauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Sauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sauron)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-may-be-the-wrong-ist-thing-ive-ever-seen-on-crappy-tv/999719/38 "2024-04-02T21:34:08Z")
Not even tangentially related to the OP, but since we’re discussing _Barney Miller_ … My mother had a huge crush on Hal Linden. I’m not sure she ever admitted this to my dad, but she told me one night while we were watching the show. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-may-be-the-wrong-ist-thing-ive-ever-seen-on-crappy-tv/999719/39 "2024-04-02T21:44:26Z")
He has “it” no doubt. I like his character. But my favorite is Fish. Always. He makes me laugh. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-may-be-the-wrong-ist-thing-ive-ever-seen-on-crappy-tv/999719/40 "2024-04-02T21:53:37Z")
Fun fact about Hal Linden. He picked his stage name from a water tower in New Jersey. I looked at the credit screen caps, and I only remember season 2 on, the “lighter, less blue” WTC shot. I know I watched it from the beginning. Fun fact about syndicated and DVD credits: they often use the wrong season’s credits, including the wrong theme music. Some shows care more, and get the right one, some just tack on whatever they have. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-may-be-the-wrong-ist-thing-ive-ever-seen-on-crappy-tv/999719.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-may-be-the-wrong-ist-thing-ive-ever-seen-on-crappy-tv/999719.md?page=3)