# This Michael Flynn guy just can't stop committing treason **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 13, 2017, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-michael-flynn-guy-just-cant-stop-committing-treason/779770 "2017-02-13T19:21:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 144
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-michael-flynn-guy-just-cant-stop-committing-treason/779770/144 "2017-02-16T07:38:18Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Oh. So Republican hypocrisy does NOT rise to almost the same level as Democratic hypocrisy. > > Whew. You had us worried there. > [@Bricker](#): > > Who are you talking to? You quote my posts, but then respond to some point you have either created yourself or taken from another set of words. But clearly you don’t need my input; you’re furnishing both sides of this conversation yourself. **Bricker** accuses me of invention — apparently we’re not allowed to consider prior posts by a Doper; each post is its own special snowflake that must be reviewed in isolation. Charges of liberal hypocrisy are irrelevant unless they occur in that specific snowflake. I, OTOH, view a poster in light of his prior posts as well. From **Bricker** ’s other posts we know that [ul][li] **Bricker** is a staunch admirer of Karl Rove, the despicable criminal whose tricks include [spreading lies that his opponent is a pedophile](https://www.thenation.com/article/exactly-how-karl-rove-works/) and then, [in a clever reversal](https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2004/11/karl-rove-in-a-corner/303537/)[/li] > [@](#): > > … Rove, dissatisfied with the campaign’s progress, had flyers printed up—absent any trace of who was behind them—viciously attacking See [Rove’s own candidate] and his family. “We were trying to craft a message to reach some of the blue-collar, lower-middle-class people,” the staffer says. “You’d roll it up, put a rubber band around it, and paperboy it at houses late at night. I was told, ‘Do not hand it to anybody, do not tell anybody who you’re with, and if you can, borrow a car that doesn’t have your tags.’ So I borrowed a buddy’s car [and drove] down the middle of the street … I had Hefty bags stuffed full of these rolled-up pamphlets, and I’d cruise the designated neighborhoods, throwing these things out with both hands and literally driving with my knees.” The ploy left Rove’s opponent at a loss. Ingram’s staff realized that it would be fruitless to try to persuade the public that the See campaign was attacking its own candidate in order “to create a backlash against the Democrat,” as Joe Perkins, who worked for Ingram, put it to me. Presumably the public would believe that Democrats were spreading terrible rumors about See and his family. “They just beat you down to your knees,” Ingram said of being on the receiving end of Rove’s attacks. See won the race. Admittedly, I’m not sure “hypocrisy” is the charge I’d make against Karl Rove — this “political strategist” **Bricker** admires so much — the phrase that comes to my mind is “despicable criminal.” (AFAIK Rove has never actually been convicted of a felony. Please do defend him on that basis, Counsellor!) [li] **Bricker** is on record _finding the perjury of Bill Clinton_ (was the semen stain the result of “sex”? Did we ever find out what the meaning of “is” _is_?)\* to be more serious that the perjuries by Cheney and his neocons that cost at least a million Iraqis lives, trillions of dollars of U.S. treasure and have turned much of the Middle East into a horrendous kill zone.\*[/li] Hypocrisy? Does anyone think Bricker would rank a _GOP_ dalliance as more serious than a calamity like the Stupid War against Gog and Magog if that War were started by a _Democrat_? (And watch **Bricker** now revert to the only thing he knows — legalisms — by asking whether a perjury indictment was ever issued against Cheney’s lies. I wonder if he’ll note that some of the trillions lost were “recovered” by the share price rise in the stocks of Halliburton and munition makers!) [li] **Bricker** is proud that he voted against Trump. Did you hear the story of what this cost him emotionally? He first spoiled a ballot with a Trump vote![/li] > [@I live in the US, but I don't vote. Never have, never will. Ask Me Anything if you want.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-live-in-the-us-but-i-dont-vote-never-have-never-will-ask-me-anything-if-you-want/771059/196): > > I … believe [Mrs. Clinton’s] presidency will be a horrible one [but] I had nonetheless resolved to support [her] … I started to mark the ballot. I couldn’t. … Finally I marked it for Trump. I couldn’t vote for Clinton… (He goes on to void that ballot and request a new one.) No, I don’t consider this “hypocrisy” by the Esquire. Instead it’s strong evidence of the bloated amygdala that leads his ilk to such unfortunate choices. @ **Bricker** — Have you sought medical help? [li] Has **Bricker** explained why a Clinton Presidency would be so horrible? Is it the murders in Banghazi? The sex ring in the pizza parlor? The sentences taken out of context?[/li][/ul] Instead we got Trump. I was hoping Trump might be better than a right-winger like Perry or Kasich or Pence or Carson. But in addition to Trump’s incompetence and arrogance, we get the full right-wing program too: Always putting the interests of corporations ahead of people; increasing gap between rich and poor; destruction of SocSec, Medicare, Obamacare; kowtowing to Wall Street so we can race toward the next financial crisis; removal of the protections on the environment, worker safety, food safety, etc.; renewed persecution of gays, blacks and Muslims — the full Conservative Agenda! _Hey **Bricker**! Trump is pursuing the perfect GOP ideals. All the GOP congressmen are delighted. Do you regret your vote for Hillary yet?_ --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-michael-flynn-guy-just-cant-stop-committing-treason/779770)._