# This new site sucks!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-new-site-sucks/855916>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [June 18, 2020, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-new-site-sucks/855916 "2020-06-18T18:37:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-new-site-sucks/855916/202 "2020-06-26T17:23:49Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> How do I get to the last page of, say, this 190+post thread (that I havent read yet)?

> [@GreenWyvern](#):
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> The easiest way is to **press the # key** (jump to post number) and then enter 999 or a large number. It will take you to the last post in the thread.
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> It will also show you the exact number of posts in thread, but it’s quicker to type 999 or something larger than the number of the last post.

There’s even an easier way. There are dates/time stamps on top and below the scroll bar at the right of the posts. Clicking them takes you to the first or last post of the thread, respectively.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-new-site-sucks/855916/203 "2020-06-26T17:29:50Z")

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Too late to edit: Sorry, I misread the question, I thought you were asking how to get to the last _post_, not _page_. As for pages, there are no really pages in the classic sense, that’s a feature of endless scrolling.

ETA: OTOH, when you get to the last post, you’re also on the last “page”.

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**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-new-site-sucks/855916/204 "2020-06-26T18:21:27Z")

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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> There’s even an easier way. There are dates/time stamps on top and below the scroll bar at the right of the posts. Clicking them takes you to the first or last post of the thread, respectively.

Yes, that’s even better! 😀

And **Shift+L** will take you to your last unread post.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-new-site-sucks/855916/205 "2020-06-26T23:26:04Z")

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Thanks, everyone for the help.

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**Author:** ![Graymalkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@Graymalkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Graymalkin)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-new-site-sucks/855916/206 "2020-06-28T03:24:12Z")

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Holy shit. This sucks. Bye bye SD.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-new-site-sucks/855916/207 "2020-06-28T18:18:23Z")

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Change Always Sucks.  
That does Not mean that the new SDMB is not infinitely better than what we had before.  
People suffer from tremendous inertia. You have to give that time to work out, time to give the new way of doing things a chance to show its logic, its advantages before freaking out.  
I remember when Washington Post changed their commenting system. It was HORRIBLE for two months, but now I’m used to it, and it’s Much better than it was before. I expect the same thing will happen here. Give it and yourself time, before hastily pulling out the nukes.  
TubaDiva, Zotti, IT, and the Mods are none of them utter fools. They’ve probably given us what we want. We just don’t know it yet.  
Chill. Already the down-time seems to be disappearing. That in itself is almost worth ALL the other changes.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-new-site-sucks/855916/208 "2020-06-28T19:02:39Z")

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I agree. Give it time. It’s just a message board. Not work. You’re not required to understand everything immediately. Go slow, play around.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-new-site-sucks/855916/209 "2020-06-28T19:13:18Z")

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Old site: click on page, view page. (Assuming there are no server errors.)

New site: click on page, spend 10 seconds staring at white screen or spinny thing while the applet in my browser renders the new page. I don’t anticipate seeing the logic of that.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-new-site-sucks/855916/210 "2020-06-28T19:16:26Z")

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What browser? Because mine is almost instantaneous.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-new-site-sucks/855916/211 "2020-06-28T19:19:51Z")

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Firefox on Android.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-new-site-sucks/855916/212 "2020-06-28T19:41:00Z")

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[This](https://youtu.be/tzc3tAcwIaI) is how the new site renders on my phone.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-new-site-sucks/855916/213 "2020-06-28T19:46:45Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> [This](https://youtu.be/tzc3tAcwIaI) is how the new site renders on my phone

That seems very odd to be so slow. I don’t have Firefox on my android anymore so I can’t try it out. I use Brave and it’s quite fast.

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**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-new-site-sucks/855916/214 "2020-06-28T19:49:23Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> New site: click on page, spend 10 seconds staring at white screen or spinny thing while the applet in my browser renders the new page.

Old, slow phone with little memory?

Old version of Firefox?

Also look at the speed of your internet connection.

Perhaps try Chrome or Opera.

I find it as fast as the old board, maybe faster.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-new-site-sucks/855916/215 "2020-06-28T19:58:08Z")

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None of that matters. What did work well before doesn’t work well now. “You need to replace your hardware/software/ISP to get things to work as well as they did before” is _not_ a good statement.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-new-site-sucks/855916/216 "2020-06-28T20:01:04Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> None of that matters. What did work well before doesn’t work well now. “You need to replace your hardware/software/ISP to get things to work as well as they did before” is _not_ a good statement

Of course, but it might help you now instead of later. I highly recommend giving Brave a try. I use my phone here almost exclusively (I’m on a computer diet). I’d be way too frustrated with Firefox to stick it out if it was that slow for me.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-new-site-sucks/855916/217 "2020-06-29T00:26:19Z")

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I just got a notification for being given a “badge” for a post I made in 2003. So… yay me?

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-new-site-sucks/855916/218 "2020-06-29T00:33:11Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> I just got a notification for being given a “badge” for a post I made in 2003. So… yay me?&nbsp;

And long-overdue it was! Congratulations!

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-new-site-sucks/855916/219 "2020-06-29T02:11:48Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> [This](https://youtu.be/tzc3tAcwIaI) is how the new site renders on my phone

I am using an iDevice, and the speed seems comparable – the difference being my browser does not linger on a blank page but leaves the current one up until the last quarter second or so, with no spinny thing, so it seems a lot faster.

And it certainly seems faster than when the progress bar moves to the 5% position and sits there for a full minute before reporting a gateway timeout. Not to mention, any replying you do, even with quotes, happens right here on this page, so there is never any navigating to the reply page and then back.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-new-site-sucks/855916/220 "2020-06-29T02:45:11Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> And it certainly seems faster than when the progress bar moves to the 5% position and sits there for a full minute before reporting a gateway timeout.

That’s a false dichtomy–there are choices for site software that don’t have broken databases _and_ don’t have slow, bloated software.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-new-site-sucks/855916/221 "2020-06-29T05:24:42Z")

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I do not perceive the software to be slow. Some features are annoying, but it is fairly clean and functional.

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