# This One Isn't Even Close **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [September 12, 2019, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-one-isnt-even-close/840102 "2019-09-12T14:29:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-one-isnt-even-close/840102/41 "2019-09-12T23:39:51Z")
How would you feel about a fuzzy speed limit? Where the cops decide when you’re going too fast? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-one-isnt-even-close/840102/42 "2019-09-12T23:55:11Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > How would you feel about a fuzzy speed limit? Where the cops decide when you’re going too fast? Do you seriously expect private property to have the same rules as public property? ---
**Author:** ![tricoteuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tricoteuse/32/4334_2.png) [@tricoteuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tricoteuse)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-one-isnt-even-close/840102/43 "2019-09-13T00:08:13Z")
😕 Speed limits are totally different than what amounts to a polite conversation in a privately owned space. Just like you can act one way around your friends and family but the same behavior would get you in trouble at work or in a restaurant or something. Rules of etiquette are fuzzy but we all know someone who’s acting like a jerk at a party when we see one. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-one-isnt-even-close/840102/44 "2019-09-13T00:12:13Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > How would you feel about a fuzzy speed limit? Where the cops decide when you’re going too fast? Why you think message board rules are like actual laws is beyond me but I will assume that you are being sincere for the sake of argument. A speed limit is analogous to a threat of violence here. It’s something that’s not fuzzy. Reckless driving is an example of a fuzzy line where a cop uses judgment. Both have both things. I’d tell you “nice try” but that was such a feeble attempt that I’m not even going to do that. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-one-isnt-even-close/840102/45 "2019-09-13T00:20:13Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > You’re really unclear on the concept here. Fuzzy, subjective rules are intrinsically unclear. ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-one-isnt-even-close/840102/46 "2019-09-13T00:49:42Z")
Actually, speed limits aren’t all that bright line, either, as anyone who’s ever been ticketed for “driving too fast for conditions” will tell you. Go ahead and argue with a judge that there should be specific, bright-line speed limits that change for each precise road condition and see how far that gets you. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-one-isnt-even-close/840102/47 "2019-09-13T01:02:14Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Fuzzy, subjective rules are intrinsically unclear. In this case this is a feature, not a bug. “Don’t be a jerk” and “don’t troll” are inherently fuzzy. There’s no way to make them not fuzzy. Highlighting the fuzziness should dissuade posters from trying to find exactly where the line is just so they can push up to it and no further, since there is no such line. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-one-isnt-even-close/840102/48 "2019-09-13T01:02:28Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Fuzzy, subjective rules are intrinsically unclear. Yes! Exactly. I’m glad you get it. Fuzzy lines encourage better behavior through uncertainty on the part of misbehavers. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-one-isnt-even-close/840102/49 "2019-09-13T01:18:55Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Fuzzy, subjective rules are intrinsically unclear. That’s the beauty of it! ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-one-isnt-even-close/840102/50 "2019-09-13T02:04:51Z")
LOL. **Shodan** , your post was a perfect example of “Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.” Congratulations on your well-deserved warning. ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-one-isnt-even-close/840102/51 "2019-09-13T02:21:01Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > Yes! Exactly. > > I’m glad you get it. Fuzzy lines encourage better behavior through uncertainty on the part of misbehavers. Love it! I may just have to borrow that one now and then. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-one-isnt-even-close/840102/52 "2019-09-13T02:37:59Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > How would you feel about a fuzzy speed limit? Where the cops decide when you’re going too fast? You mean, like in real life? ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-one-isnt-even-close/840102/53 "2019-09-13T02:45:45Z")
Exactly! ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-one-isnt-even-close/840102/54 "2019-09-13T02:47:37Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Fuzzy, subjective rules are intrinsically unclear. What’s your point? ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-one-isnt-even-close/840102/55 "2019-09-13T04:23:21Z")
The topic of this thread being resolved, and given the outcome, I’m closing this thread. [/moderating] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-one-isnt-even-close/840102.md?page=2)