# This person thinks I am anti-Semitic from a FB post (this thread can put me on thin ice). Thoughts?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-person-thinks-i-am-anti-semitic-from-a-fb-post-this-thread-can-put-me-on-thin-ice-thoughts/805151>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [December 23, 2017, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-person-thinks-i-am-anti-semitic-from-a-fb-post-this-thread-can-put-me-on-thin-ice-thoughts/805151 "2017-12-23T18:21:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2017, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-person-thinks-i-am-anti-semitic-from-a-fb-post-this-thread-can-put-me-on-thin-ice-thoughts/805151/21 "2017-12-24T02:36:33Z")

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> Okay then, I’ll call it stalking.
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> What exactly do you mean, “I will see what they post”? Do you think they’re going to post that they blocked a “friend” because he made comments that offended them? Do you believe your contributions to their threads are so notable that their other friends will notice that you aren’t posting there anymore?
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> It seems pretty clear to me why they’ve blocked you. What more do you expect to learn?
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> By the way, William Fox and Adolph Zukor were born in Hungary; Carl Laemmle in Germany; Mark Dintenfass in what’s now Poland; Pat Powers in Ireland; and David Horsely in England. Isn’t it just as relevant to say that Fox, Universal and Paramount were founded by _immigrants_?

What are we saying about what it means to be the “founder” of that anyway? Is there some original foundational virtue or crime in founding hollywood?

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**Author:** ![Kadmos1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/13edae/32.png) [@Kadmos1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kadmos1)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2017, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-person-thinks-i-am-anti-semitic-from-a-fb-post-this-thread-can-put-me-on-thin-ice-thoughts/805151/22 "2017-12-24T04:35:15Z")

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The Hollywood movie industry was pioneered by Jewish immigrants. Harvey Wilcox founded the modern community of and registered the name Hollywood, CA with his wife. He registered the name in 8/1886. The funny thing is he wanted to the town to be a Christian utopia. Boy, that didn’t work.

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**Author:** ![Kadmos1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/13edae/32.png) [@Kadmos1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kadmos1)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2017, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-person-thinks-i-am-anti-semitic-from-a-fb-post-this-thread-can-put-me-on-thin-ice-thoughts/805151/23 "2017-12-24T04:48:12Z")

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kunilou, what I mean is I would my other account to see the posts they put on their pages (“watching”/“stocking”), but not use the Like or comment on the open comment spaces.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2017, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-person-thinks-i-am-anti-semitic-from-a-fb-post-this-thread-can-put-me-on-thin-ice-thoughts/805151/24 "2017-12-24T05:51:14Z")

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I’ll post my response as soon as clear it with the Elders.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2017, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-person-thinks-i-am-anti-semitic-from-a-fb-post-this-thread-can-put-me-on-thin-ice-thoughts/805151/25 "2017-12-24T09:21:59Z")

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I would suggest that you apologize and promise not to do it again, but you can’t.

Moving on to your second best case, stop using a sock account to spy on these people. Stay away from them and move on with your life.

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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2017, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-person-thinks-i-am-anti-semitic-from-a-fb-post-this-thread-can-put-me-on-thin-ice-thoughts/805151/26 "2017-12-24T15:57:12Z")

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You attacked monopoly privilege and were in turn attacked by a defender of monopoly privilege with the easiest to use and most devastating thing they had lying around. This will continue to happen as long as you attack government privileges.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2017, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-person-thinks-i-am-anti-semitic-from-a-fb-post-this-thread-can-put-me-on-thin-ice-thoughts/805151/27 "2017-12-24T16:23:03Z")

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> [@Kadmos1](#):
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> The Hollywood movie industry was pioneered by Jewish immigrants.

So what? Is this fact just a submission to Trivia Dominoes, much like “The Queen Alexandra’s Birdwing has a wingspan of 12 inches”? Or is there some reason why you find the comment interesting or relevant?

IOW, you haven’t told us enough to guess whether you might be anti-Semitic.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2017, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-person-thinks-i-am-anti-semitic-from-a-fb-post-this-thread-can-put-me-on-thin-ice-thoughts/805151/28 "2017-12-24T16:38:13Z")

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Let my people go.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2017, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-person-thinks-i-am-anti-semitic-from-a-fb-post-this-thread-can-put-me-on-thin-ice-thoughts/805151/29 "2017-12-24T16:50:54Z")

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> [@Kadmos1](#):
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> The Hollywood movie industry was pioneered by Jewish immigrants.

This is factually correct.

Izzy and Moe leaped out of their covered wagon at the L.A. County line and started shooting the first footage, back in 1837.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2017, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-person-thinks-i-am-anti-semitic-from-a-fb-post-this-thread-can-put-me-on-thin-ice-thoughts/805151/30 "2017-12-24T17:01:30Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> What are we saying about what it means to be the “founder” of that anyway? Is there some original foundational virtue or crime in founding hollywood?

OK. So, anyone?

If there isn’t any answer to this then why would anyone need to “assert” it, as opposed to citing it in context.

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**Author:** ![Kadmos1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/13edae/32.png) [@Kadmos1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kadmos1)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2017, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-person-thinks-i-am-anti-semitic-from-a-fb-post-this-thread-can-put-me-on-thin-ice-thoughts/805151/31 "2017-12-24T17:59:24Z")

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septimus, that “trivia” post was in response to drad dog asking “What are we saying about what it means to be the ‘founder’ of that anyway? Is there some original foundational virtue or crime in founding hollywood?  
OK. So, anyone?”

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2017, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-person-thinks-i-am-anti-semitic-from-a-fb-post-this-thread-can-put-me-on-thin-ice-thoughts/805151/32 "2017-12-25T02:42:18Z")

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> [@Kadmos1](#):
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> kunilou, what I mean is I would my other account to see the posts they put on their pages (“watching”/“stocking”), but not use the Like or comment on the open comment spaces.

You made your meaning perfectly clear. What I mean is that you know damn well why you were blocked and there’s no further reason to spy on them.

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**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2017, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-person-thinks-i-am-anti-semitic-from-a-fb-post-this-thread-can-put-me-on-thin-ice-thoughts/805151/33 "2017-12-25T02:59:05Z")

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Look, Kadmos1, you have a valuable opportunity here if you’ll take it. You’ve been blocked for posting before you think. You made some comments that seem antisemitic in that you introduced comments about Jews that were not directly irrelevant to the conversation. You’ll be much better off if you asked yourself some tough questions, such as “What’s wrong with my thoughts that when I express them, I get in trouble and am even blocked?” \*It’s not just \*\*posting \*_without thinking, it’s thinking what you’re thinking_.

If you believe you should think before speaking, it means what your thinking needs a filter, which means there’s something wrong with those thoughts. Otherwise, no filtering would be needed.

The fault, dear Brutus, lies not in our (voiceover) stars, but in ourselves.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2017, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-person-thinks-i-am-anti-semitic-from-a-fb-post-this-thread-can-put-me-on-thin-ice-thoughts/805151/34 "2017-12-25T04:11:15Z")

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Not sure what was the “debate,” here.

Off to IMHO (with the speculation it might get further moved to The BBQ Pit).

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2017, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-person-thinks-i-am-anti-semitic-from-a-fb-post-this-thread-can-put-me-on-thin-ice-thoughts/805151/35 "2017-12-25T06:42:44Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> IOW, you haven’t told us enough to guess whether you might be anti-Semitic.

Sure he has.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2017, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-person-thinks-i-am-anti-semitic-from-a-fb-post-this-thread-can-put-me-on-thin-ice-thoughts/805151/36 "2017-12-25T15:41:03Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> I’m half jewish, the wrong half

So, the lower half?

(Is _that_ post antisemitic?)

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**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2017, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-person-thinks-i-am-anti-semitic-from-a-fb-post-this-thread-can-put-me-on-thin-ice-thoughts/805151/37 "2017-12-25T17:05:01Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> IOW, you haven’t told us enough to guess whether you might be anti-Semitic.

If I’m understanding the thread directly, he responded to someone saying “Happy Hanukkah” by talking about how “The Jews” control Hollywood, and how many of The Jews are in Hollywood. I can’t see any reason for someone to pick that topic as a response to that statement, or to use the peculiar phrasing, if they don’t have anti-Semetic beliefs. I don’t know of any other group that talks about “The Jews” doing things and about how they run Hollywood, especially in response to a simple holiday greeting.

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**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2017, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-person-thinks-i-am-anti-semitic-from-a-fb-post-this-thread-can-put-me-on-thin-ice-thoughts/805151/38 "2017-12-25T17:18:48Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> So, the lower half?
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> (Is _that_ post antisemitic?)

It’s a toss up between anti-semitic and misogynist. Think of a different joke.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2017, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-person-thinks-i-am-anti-semitic-from-a-fb-post-this-thread-can-put-me-on-thin-ice-thoughts/805151/39 "2017-12-25T17:26:04Z")

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**Kadmos1** ,

As presented it seems a bit WTF.

Something about a couple being Jewish to which your mind went to a) “well they live near Hollywood so no shock, lotso Jews there” and then b) and “did you know that the Jews moved the movie industry to Hollywood from Fort Lee NJ to better commit piracy?” (Both not exact quotes.)

You may want examine your thought processes for why those responses popped up top and what that may inform you about your preconceptions and biases.

I don’t think that makes you an “anti-Semite” but it may mean that you need to have a bit more self-awareness of what tropes you implicitly buy into and without thinking reinforce.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2017, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-person-thinks-i-am-anti-semitic-from-a-fb-post-this-thread-can-put-me-on-thin-ice-thoughts/805151/40 "2017-12-25T17:28:51Z")

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> [@Ulfreida](#):
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> It’s a toss up between anti-semitic and misogynist. Think of a different joke.

Well choose “Left” or “Right” depending on your politics?

Seriously, what is “wrong half” _supposed_ to imply? The old Groucho Marx joke about the restricted country club pool and his daughter?

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