# This Place Is So Close To Being Great, But Instead Is Filled With Hate

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 1, 2001, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814 "2001-11-01T00:05:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![andygirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@andygirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andygirl)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/81 "2001-11-01T03:49:48Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by SavedByJesus \*  
> \*\*I was trolling. Straight-up trolling, just trying to see what kind of rise I would get. \*\*

Oh, sheesh.

\<crickets chirp into the night\>

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/82 "2001-11-01T03:51:41Z")

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Oh come on now John, just click on the little, little button and don’t worry that the scrollbar don’t work…

(I do find it delicious that he was a straight up troll but I was so having fun.)

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**Author:** ![Geobabe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/geobabe/32/3908_2.png) [@Geobabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geobabe)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/83 "2001-11-01T03:52:38Z")

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Wow. An honest troll. Who’da thunk it?

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/84 "2001-11-01T03:56:24Z")

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And the scary part is how close to the truth it was; I swear I’ve had conversations with people that sounded like the OP except they were SERIOUS.

If it means anything, I really hope you don’t get kicked off for trolling, although I can see where you might. 1) it was as funny as all-hell and 2) it’s Halloween!

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**Author:** ![Anamorphic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/anamorphic/32/3057_2.png) [@Anamorphic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anamorphic)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/85 "2001-11-01T03:56:50Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SavedByJesus \*  
> **I was trolling. Straight-up trolling, just trying to see what kind of rise I would get. Part of me wants to let this thread go on, but it’s losing it’s fun.**

Color me surprised. :rolleyes:

But I do have to admit: **Aggressive Homosexuals** would make a neat band name.

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**Author:** ![MrVisible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@MrVisible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrVisible)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/86 "2001-11-01T04:09:30Z")

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Um… buh… wha?

Wow.

Okay.

Hmm.

Someone said something about cake?

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**Author:** ![Kaje](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f04885/32.png) [@Kaje](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaje)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/87 "2001-11-01T04:11:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by andros \*  
> **You do not know me, child. Do not presume to guess my morals. I do not openly embrace halloween.**

No…you’re one of those closet pagans.

Not that the guy is around any more…but I would hope the majority of posters would consider “pagan spellcraft” to be nonsense. Only thing is we aren’t about to actively attack those who believe otherwise because they aren’t making it their life goal to belittle the beliefs of everyone else in a vain attempt at conversion.

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**Author:** ![andygirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@andygirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andygirl)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/88 "2001-11-01T04:11:49Z")

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It’s the cake of agressive homosexual love. All can eat freely!

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**Author:** ![Kaje](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f04885/32.png) [@Kaje](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaje)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/89 "2001-11-01T04:13:29Z")

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yeah ok so that’ll teach me to preview before posting… stupid fake fundies…

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**Author:** ![MrVisible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@MrVisible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrVisible)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/90 "2001-11-01T04:16:25Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by andygirl \*  
> \*\*It’s the cake of agressive homosexual love. All can eat freely! \*\*

Um… actually, **andygirl** , that doesn’t even sound appetizing to me… maybe it’s 'cause I just filled up on the Snickers bars of insistent gay infatuation.

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**Author:** ![Sofa\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58956e/32.png) [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/91 "2001-11-01T04:19:47Z")

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To be read along with [this chapter](http://www.thereverend.com/brick_testament/the_empty_tomb/jn20_01.html) of the Brick Testament.

It was very late on Hallow’s Eve and still dark, when **Eve** came to the tomb. She saw that the stone had been moved away from the tomb…

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And the women came out and ran away from the tomb because they were scared shitless…

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…and came running to **Nickrz** and, um that other guy, the one whom **Esprix** loved. ‘They have taken the Lord out of the tomb,’ she said, ‘and we don’t know where they have put him.’

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And the other women with them also told the apostles, but this story of theirs seemed pure bullshit, and they told 'em to fuck 'emselves.

–\> Next

The disciples then went back home. Fuckin’ packed bowl and shit back there, who could blame 'em?

–\> Next

And suddenly, coming to meet them was Jesus. ‘Texas,’ he said.

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In a state of alarm and fright, they thought they were seeing a ghost. But then again, it was Hallow’s Eve, and they were all dressed as The Village People, so they pretty much got over it.

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But he said, ‘Why are you so agitated, and why are these doubts stirring your hearts? See by my posting style and my ignorance that it is I myself. Read me and see for yourself; a ghost has no flesh and bones as you can see I have not.’ And as he said this, he showed them his Mustang and guns.

–\> Next

Their joy was so great that they could not believe it, as they were dumbasses; so he said to them, ‘You got anythin’ t’ eat? With Tabasco?’

–\> Next

And they offered him a piece of barbecued flesh, which he took and ate before their eyes. \*“I’m still the fuckin’ **Wildest** , motherfuckers!” \*he screamed, _"Ha! I’m goin’ to do some burnouts in the Food Lion parking lot!_

-The End-

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/92 "2001-11-01T04:21:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SavedByJesus \*  
> **How is it that such a group of smart, well educated people as the frequent readers of the straight dope can be so filled with intolerance?**

Don’t forget indifference. I’ve got lots of that now. (yawn)

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/93 "2001-11-01T04:30:31Z")

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Hey there Saved BJ. Many of my fellow dopers have taken offence that you posted here, in the Pit, and not in ‘Great Debates’. You know, they do have a point. This **is** the pit. So you need a few fucks, or cocks, or whatever (actually, you need a lot of them).

Here is how you should have phrased things:

> [@](#):
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> How is it, for Christ sakes, that such a group of smart, fucking educated people as the frequent readers of the straight dope can be such assholes?
> 
> Why is it that you preach love and tolerance to every goddam fucking point of view but the Christian one? Why do you all roll your eyes and tell the those of Christian virtue or prayer to fuck off, but accept the bullshit concept of Pagan Spellcraft and morals? Like, what the fuck are you talking about?
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> Why do you smart people live your lives with morals as lax as you anal sphincters after years of godless sodomy, and openly embrace Pagan rituals like Halloween? Why the fuck do you laugh in the face of all the shit that cannot be proven by science, except when to be politically correct you have to accept it?
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> You want to fuck us Christians around and piss on our lifestyles. You are supposed to be well enough educated to have different opinions, rather than PC ones. Right, fuck me.
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> You should be ashamed of yourselves. Fuck you!
> 
> Also, the number of very aggressively homosexual posters really fuckin’ concerns me. Fuck them! I do not turn those buggers away from me, but I am very cautious about their bullshit lifestyle, as it is so specifically and drastically warned against in the scriptures.
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> ```
> Praise God.
> 
> SBJ 
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> ```

And by the way, SBJ, you’ve really got this thing about “shame”. Like every second sentence is “you should be ashamed”, or “shame on you”, or just plain “shame”. It’s really weird. Tell me the truth. Are you ashamed of your dick or something?

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/94 "2001-11-01T04:31:41Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by SavedByJesus \*  
> I was trolling. Straight-up trolling, just trying to see what kind of rise I would get. Part of me wants to let this thread go on, but it’s losing it’s fun.

I don’t believe you. As in, I think you are a lying sack of maggotshit trying to “fit in with the crowd”, so to speak.

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**Author:** ![Yue\_Han](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/eada6e/32.png) [@Yue\_Han](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yue_Han)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/95 "2001-11-01T04:32:27Z")

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So, why is this a cake of Agressive Homosexual Love?

_leans over to get a closer look at what seems to be an ordinary sheet cake_

SPROING.

_gets punched by a spring-loaded dildo. (Think Looney Tunes boxing-glove-onna-spring only more phallic)_

Ah. I see. Who’s up for some pie of mild interest in bondage? With punch? Punch and pie?

–John  
[sup]That’ll get 'em in here.[/sup]

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**Author:** ![shimmery](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@shimmery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shimmery)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/96 "2001-11-01T04:33:49Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Sofa King \*  
> Their joy was so great that they could not believe it, as they were dumbasses; so he said to them, ‘You got anythin’ t’ eat? With Tabasco?’

Cake of aggressive homosexual love with Tabasco? (The Tabasco makes it _extra_ aggressive!)

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/97 "2001-11-01T04:44:57Z")

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I’m just going to grab a quick bite of this cake, before I go to bed with my wife.

Mmmmmm. Tasty.

_It’s raining men…Halellujah_

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**Author:** ![Lucki\_Chaarms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lucki\_Chaarms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucki_Chaarms)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/98 "2001-11-01T04:51:28Z")

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**Puhna** , that’s fucking hilarious! The piece of shit admitted to trolling and just wants an out, but now can we refuse to acknowledge the fact that he claims not to stand behind what he said? Like not give him the out?

Hehehe.

SBJ: No really I’m sorry…  
LC: Sorry for what? You should be ashamed!  
SBJ: It was all a bad joke, I’m leaving now.  
LC: Oh no, come back here and debate with us, surely you don’t give up on your beliefs so easily!  
SBJ: But I don’t _have_ beliefs, I was trolling! Please let me go!  
LC: No.  
SBJ: Will you at least loosen the manacles?  
LC: ::consults with puhna:: No.  
SBJ: ::cries::

Almost like the Pulp Fiction scenario, you know turn the tables… Let’s get medieval on **Wildest Bill** incarnate.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/99 "2001-11-01T05:02:30Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Lucki Chaarms \*  
> **Puhna** , that’s fucking hilarious! The piece of shit admitted to trolling and just wants an out, but now can we refuse to acknowledge the fact that he claims not to stand behind what he said? Like not give him the out?
> 
> Hehehe.

Hey, **Lucki** , sometimes I’m more sadist than masochist;)

But I really do believe this character wasn’t completely trolling.

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**Author:** ![Katisha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bcef8e/32.png) [@Katisha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katisha)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/100 "2001-11-01T05:05:11Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by KarlGauss \*  
> **Here is how you should have phrased things:**

Ah, the Burn Maker! A very useful tool, although you have to add the _de rigueur_ references to goat-felching on your own… 😉

Fun thread, though. The ending caught me by surprise – if nothing else, **SBJ** had the rhetoric down really well.

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