# This Place Is So Close To Being Great, But Instead Is Filled With Hate **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 1, 2001, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814 "2001-11-01T00:05:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/121 "2001-11-01T17:04:45Z")
In his second post, SBJ claimed to be shaken. Given his faith, I would have expected him to be stirred. ---
**Author:** ![andygirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@andygirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andygirl)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/122 "2001-11-01T17:09:46Z")
How about if we coat the rasins with some gender ambiguity? Look, it’s not my damn fault that you got here late. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/123 "2001-11-01T17:24:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by andygirl \* > Okay, so perhaps we’re out of agressively homosexual cake. No cake? Does that mean I have to choose death? > [@](#): > > Can I perhaps interest you in the brownies with blatant lesbian subtext? \*\* Out of the Alice B. Toklas cookbook, I presume… ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/124 "2001-11-01T17:43:13Z")
**andygirl** - Either you’ve completely misunderstood my previous posts or you’re doing a damn fine job of acting like an “agressive homosexual”. I’m not sure which. For instance, calling myself a “passive heterosexual” was more a reference to the generally passive posting style of this particualr heterosexual (sort of a reference to the OP). Was that completely unclear? ---
**Author:** ![Macro\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Macro\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Macro_Man)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/125 "2001-11-01T18:17:06Z")
Ned Flanders… is that you? ---
**Author:** ![Caricci](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Caricci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caricci)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/126 "2001-11-01T18:29:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SavedByJesus \* > \*\*How is it that such a group of smart, well educated people as the frequent readers of the straight dope can be so filled with intolerance? > > Why is it that you preach love and tolerance to every point of view but the Christian one? Why do you all roll your eyes and turn away at the thought of Christian virtue or prayer, but accept the concept of Pagan Spellcraft and morals? > > Why do you smart people live your lives with such lax morals and openly embrace Pagan rituals like Halloween? Why do you laugh in the face of all that cannot be proven by science, except when to be politically correct you have to accept it? > > You hate the Christians and our lifestyles. You are supposed to be well enough educated to have different opinions, rather than PC ones. > > You should be ashamed of yourselves. > > Also, the number of very aggressively homosexual posters concerns me. I do not turn homosexuals away from me, but I am very cautious about their lifestyle, as it is so specifically and drastically warned against in the scriptures. > > Praise God. > > SBJ \*\* Oh, Jesus Motherfucking Christ! I’m kind of new here. Someone tell me this is a joke. ---
**Author:** ![Atreyu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@Atreyu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atreyu)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/127 "2001-11-01T18:31:55Z")
I’m guessing you didn’t bother to read the whole thread before writing that last post, **Caricci**. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Caricci](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Caricci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caricci)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/128 "2001-11-01T18:47:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Atreyu \* > \*\*I’m guessing you didn’t bother to read the whole thread before writing that last post, **Caricci**. 😉 \*\* Well, no, because I just thought it was an fun opportunity to say “Jesus Motherfucking Christ”. But I kinda figured. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/129 "2001-11-01T18:52:02Z")
But… but… I didn’t even get a chance to reply before he wafted off like a little poof on the breeze! You see, sometimes I _am_ ashamed to be here! All those aggressive homosexuals, and passive/aggresive bisexuals, and all those references to men in uniform and all the literary references, and… say, what’s with the dildo over there? And who’s that naked guy who keeps wandering through? Is there any cake left, I mean, some that didn’t have that dildo attached to it, or vice verse? ---
**Author:** ![andygirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@andygirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andygirl)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/130 "2001-11-01T19:03:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Trion \* > \*\ ***andygirl** - Either you’ve completely misunderstood my previous posts or you’re doing a damn fine job of acting like an “agressive homosexual”. I’m not sure which. \*\* Trion, don’t make me come over there with my pompoms. It’s option B, m’dear. Have some more candy. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/131 "2001-11-01T19:27:45Z")
Well, thank God for that. I may just need to lie down for a bit. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Lucki\_Chaarms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lucki\_Chaarms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucki_Chaarms)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/132 "2001-11-01T19:29:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by matt\_mcl \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > _Originally posted by Lucki Chaarms \* > > SBJ: Will you at least loosen the manacles? > > LC: ::consults with puhna:: No. > > SBJ: ::cries::_\* > > [sub]I find this scenario strangely erotic…[sub]can I get you and punha to do it to me instead?[/sub][/sub] \*\* Well, next time you’re down here, call me on up! LC ---
**Author:** ![Lucki\_Chaarms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lucki\_Chaarms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucki_Chaarms)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/133 "2001-11-01T19:37:59Z")
Wow. Oh wow. [It’s technicolor **SBJ** fun!](http://www.ecp.f2s.com/gjproject/gotjesus.html) An excerpt: > [@](#): > > _Originally Posted By That Website_: > > \*\*Christianity is currently based on the concept of giving your problems and bad circumstances to a person, known as ‘Jesus Christ.’ Also by having a relationship with such a fellow, you can cast all your worries into a large hole and never have to think of them again. \*\* That’s REALLY healthy. Hoo. LC ---
**Author:** ![DPWhite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d26b3c/32.png) [@DPWhite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPWhite)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/134 "2001-11-01T19:53:37Z")
I respectfully disagree. Some of the most prominent posters on the board are Christians. The only disrespect I have seen directed towards “Christianity” is towards those posters whose message generally conforms to the belief of how we can tolerate certain groups or points of view. A lot of this has to do with what is meant by Christianity. I’ve occasionally been intolerate and unloving, and I recognize that as a sin against people and God. I feel Jesus message was love and caring, and that point of view has been very welcome on this board. I have never once been dissed for so sharing, and I am a lot more comfortable sharing my faith on this board than anywhere else. But I also recognize that a number of other beliefs and disbeliefs are held by folks here, and I must respect that too. Incidentally, I have a couple of gay clients, one is an atheist and the other is the most devout and Christian man I know, he is practically a saint. If one accepts that acts of homosexuality are sinful, and remember that Jesus said nothing of the sort (although the Old Testament did and so did Paul), that does not make the act any greater sin than “pride” in thinking that God wants you personally (and I mean this in the general sense) to do something about it in others. Christians believe that only Jesus redeems our souls through God’s perfect love. Other people making arguments don’t save souls. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/135 "2001-11-01T19:54:38Z")
Damn, I missed all the fun. I do have to say that by the time I got to the admission that SBJ was trolling, I was this close to switching teams. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/136 "2001-11-01T20:55:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SavedByJesus \* > How dare you so outright mock the word and the people of the LORD? Because if accepting it means we become like you, then we don’t wanna. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/137 "2001-11-01T20:57:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Geobabe \* > \*\*Wow. An honest troll. Who’da thunk it? \*\* Well, strange things _do_ come out on Halloween… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![red\_dragon60](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce73a5/32.png) [@red\_dragon60](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/red_dragon60)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/138 "2001-11-01T21:17:54Z")
Religion is not like race. You have a choice after you are born if you want a religion, and which one you want. You made a decision; that is your right. However, it is also my right to question that choice. Therefore, I don’t feel guilt in talking about religion and why I don’t follow yours. You made the choice. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Mermaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@The\_Mermaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mermaid)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/139 "2001-11-01T21:55:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lucki Chaarms \* > \*\*Wow. Oh wow. > > [It’s technicolor **SBJ** fun!](http://www.ecp.f2s.com/gjproject/gotjesus.html) > > LC \*\* Of course that site is on the up and up. They’ve even got a picture of him on the cross fer chrissakes.:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Lucki\_Chaarms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lucki\_Chaarms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucki_Chaarms)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2001, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814/140 "2001-11-02T00:04:12Z")
Mermaid, I’m not sure if your post was sarcastic or not. Hmm. Another quote: > [@](#): > > _Originally Posted By That Website_ > > \*\*And who is God? He’s the Father you never had. The dad that was always there and you never knew it… and, even though you and I both know you don’t deserve it, He’s there with you now as you read this… standing… waiting… right behind your shoulder. \*\* AAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!! LC [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-place-is-so-close-to-being-great-but-instead-is-filled-with-hate/90814.md?page=8)