# This pro-Hillary rant is cathartic for me

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-pro-hillary-rant-is-cathartic-for-me/745026>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [February 3, 2016, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-pro-hillary-rant-is-cathartic-for-me/745026 "2016-02-03T04:44:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-pro-hillary-rant-is-cathartic-for-me/745026/1 "2016-02-03T04:44:19Z")

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[Fucking right it is!](http://www.pajiba.com/politics/an-allcaps-explosion-of-feelings-regarding-the-liberal-backlash-against-hillary-clinton.php)

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> I’m so infuriated on her behalf. Because what you like about Bernie, what they like about Trump, she doesn’t get to do that. She doesn’t get to be all wild hair and yelling.

So. Fucking. True. Can you imagine a wild-haired, rumpled woman yelling about Wall Street and inequality? It would be like [that Onion article:](http://www.theonion.com/article/slightly-upset-woman-declared-insane-341) she’d be hauled away to the psych ward.

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-pro-hillary-rant-is-cathartic-for-me/745026/2 "2016-02-03T05:11:12Z")

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So what about Liz Warren? If anything she’d probably be doing better compared to Sanders had she run.

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**Author:** ![FightMyIgnorance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71e660/32.png) [@FightMyIgnorance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FightMyIgnorance)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-pro-hillary-rant-is-cathartic-for-me/745026/3 "2016-02-03T05:13:58Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> So what about Liz Warren? If anything she’d probably be doing better compared to Sanders had she run.

My first thought as well. She’s basically Sanders, except doesn’t have the nutty professor persona and is more electable.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-pro-hillary-rant-is-cathartic-for-me/745026/4 "2016-02-03T05:14:56Z")

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Yeah, she is probably kicking herself at this point. I would have had a tougher choice to make if she were running, for sure.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-pro-hillary-rant-is-cathartic-for-me/745026/5 "2016-02-03T05:21:33Z")

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Wow, what?

Progressives aren’t mad at Hillary for not being a shouty Janis Joplin or Roseanne. Progressives are mad at Hillary for her actual record of votes.

This is chaff. And for the record, I’d love a shouty female politician. How is that the loudest country in the world has such soft-spoken politicians?

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-pro-hillary-rant-is-cathartic-for-me/745026/6 "2016-02-03T09:01:24Z")

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How come pro-Hillary always means anti-someone else? When is Hillary going to stand for something?

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-pro-hillary-rant-is-cathartic-for-me/745026/7 "2016-02-03T11:16:04Z")

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She’s not wrong, but I still laughed at this part.

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> AND IF YOU COME AT ME FOR EVEN ONE GODDAMN SECOND WITH A “YOU JUST LIKE HER BECAUSE SHE’S A WOMAN” I WILL DESTROY YOU WHERE YOU STAND.

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> I WANT A FEMALE PRESIDENT

Anyway, Sarah Palin is fairly popular on the right and she’s completely unhinged. Lots of misogynistic slurs from libs against her too. Nice hair though, I guess.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-pro-hillary-rant-is-cathartic-for-me/745026/8 "2016-02-03T11:32:32Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> How come pro-Hillary always means anti-someone else? When is Hillary going to stand for something?

She stands for [lots of things](http://www.npr.org/2016/01/30/464762073/clinton-runs-as-wonk-in-chief-trying-to-win-hearts-with-plans), most of which I wholeheartedly support:

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> Clinton campaign press secretary Brian Fallon said when voters have shared their concerns with Clinton, she wants to be able to offer proposals to address those issues.
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> “It is Hillary Clinton’s idea of fun to take a thick briefing binder home at night to her hotel, if she is on the road, and study it and to give feedback to the staff that is providing her with a menu of options for different policy prescriptions on any given issue. She loves to engage on that,” Fallon said.

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-pro-hillary-rant-is-cathartic-for-me/745026/9 "2016-02-03T12:01:15Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> So. Fucking. True.

Bullshit. You know why she can’t get away with that? Because it doesn’t work if you don’t have integrity. Jill Stein’s far more of the “wild haired and yelling” sort, and I’d trust her a lot more than I would Clinton even when I disagree with her, because Hillary is a snake.

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-pro-hillary-rant-is-cathartic-for-me/745026/10 "2016-02-03T12:21:22Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> So what about Liz Warren? If anything she’d probably be doing better compared to Sanders had she run.

Yep, nailed it in one. I’m sad that I gave this rant a page view, now.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-pro-hillary-rant-is-cathartic-for-me/745026/11 "2016-02-03T12:43:56Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> She stands for [lots of things](http://www.npr.org/2016/01/30/464762073/clinton-runs-as-wonk-in-chief-trying-to-win-hearts-with-plans), most of which I wholeheartedly support:

Sure. She stands for whatever she thinks the most people stand for today. Even the worst of the scumbags running on the GOP don’t need a notebook to tell them what they stand for.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-pro-hillary-rant-is-cathartic-for-me/745026/12 "2016-02-03T13:10:32Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Sure. She stands for whatever she thinks the most people stand for today.

Funny, you spit that out like an epithet, but to me it sounds like the Platonic ideal of representative democracy.

And unlike Bernie’s vague “free candy for all” (unless you’re on Wall Street) platitudes, her plans strike me as achievable agenda items that will really help people, even if Bernheads would scorn them as smallball. Her autism plan is given particular focus there, and as the father of two children on the spectrum, I guarantee you it is more on point than anything any other candidate is offering, including Sanders.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-pro-hillary-rant-is-cathartic-for-me/745026/13 "2016-02-03T13:58:40Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> Funny, you spit that out like an epithet, but to me it sounds like the Platonic ideal of representative democracy.
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> And unlike Bernie’s vague “free candy for all” (unless you’re on Wall Street) platitudes, her plans strike me as achievable agenda items that will really help people, even if Bernheads would scorn them as smallball. Her autism plan is given particular focus there, and as the father of two children on the spectrum, I guarantee you it is more on point than anything any other candidate is offering, including Sanders.

At least the GOP makes promises to the sheep that they won’t fulfill. If you’re satisfied with a few trinkets while she continues her only consistent policy of turning the treasury over to the rich then you may get what you want.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-pro-hillary-rant-is-cathartic-for-me/745026/14 "2016-02-03T15:43:34Z")

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Cite on turning of the Treasury over to the rich?

And why “At least”?

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-pro-hillary-rant-is-cathartic-for-me/745026/15 "2016-02-03T15:45:28Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> [Fucking right it is!](http://www.pajiba.com/politics/an-allcaps-explosion-of-feelings-regarding-the-liberal-backlash-against-hillary-clinton.php)
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> So. Fucking. True. Can you imagine a wild-haired, rumpled woman yelling about Wall Street and inequality? It would be like [that Onion article:](http://www.theonion.com/article/slightly-upset-woman-declared-insane-341) she’d be hauled away to the psych ward.

Is that why they are carting Elizabeth Warren to the psych ward? The fact of the matter is that Hillary is not a radical left wing liberal. She is fairly comfortable with wall street, not so much with inequality.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-pro-hillary-rant-is-cathartic-for-me/745026/16 "2016-02-03T15:47:41Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> And for the record, I’d love a shouty female politician. How is that the loudest country in the world has such soft-spoken politicians?

Here you go:

> **[Sarah Palin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin)**
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> Sarah Louise Palin (/ˈpeɪlɪn/ ⓘ; née Heath; born February 11, 1964) is an American politician, commentator, author, and reality television personality who served as the ninth governor of Alaska from 2006 until her resignation in 2009. She was the 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee under U.S. Senator John McCain.
> Palin was elected to the Wasilla city council in 1992 and became mayor of Wasilla in 1996. In 2003, after an unsuccessful run for lieutenant governor, she was appointed chai...

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-pro-hillary-rant-is-cathartic-for-me/745026/17 "2016-02-03T15:48:05Z")

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Cite on Warren shouting, with unkempt hair?

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-pro-hillary-rant-is-cathartic-for-me/745026/18 "2016-02-03T15:50:07Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> So what about Liz Warren? If anything she’d probably be doing better compared to Sanders had she run.

Beat to the punch.

…by 11 hours.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-pro-hillary-rant-is-cathartic-for-me/745026/19 "2016-02-03T15:50:18Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> Cite on Warren shouting, with unkempt hair?

Her honeymoon?

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-pro-hillary-rant-is-cathartic-for-me/745026/20 "2016-02-03T15:52:54Z")

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It’s somewhat true (the OPs point). I was watching CNN on Iowa Caucus night and in Hillary’s speech she started to get a bit loud (the “I believe we will…” part) and the commentators mentioned that she seemed too angry, to which I was like, wait, wait… Sanders’ normal speaking voice seems to be twice as angry sounding as that.

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