# This really does say it all......

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-really-does-say-it-all/184555>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 26, 2003, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-really-does-say-it-all/184555 "2003-06-26T17:03:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![Already\_in\_Use](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@Already\_in\_Use](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Already_in_Use)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-really-does-say-it-all/184555/21 "2003-06-27T09:52:34Z")

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**cartfanhef** , you should know that the mods here frown on posting of non-original material. And that jingoistic tripe is about as non-original as it gets.

Secondly, while some of our Founding Fathers were Christian, others were Deist and Unitarian. And George Washington thought that his religious beliefs were none of your damn beeswax.

You have a nice day now and come back when you have some ORIGINAL nonsense to post.

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-really-does-say-it-all/184555/22 "2003-06-27T09:58:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Already in Use \*  
> \*\*You have a nice day now and come back when you have some ORIGINAL nonsense to post. \*\*

Or better yet, some non-nonsense. But I think that’s too much to hope for.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-really-does-say-it-all/184555/23 "2003-06-27T10:40:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by cartfanhef \*  
> \*\*As Americans, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom. \*\*

Men and women, most of whom were IMMIGRANTS (or their descendants) - what was your point again?

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**Author:** ![elfje](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19b73/32.png) [@elfje](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfje)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-really-does-say-it-all/184555/24 "2003-06-27T10:51:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by cartfanhef \*  
> \*\*. As Americans, we have our own culture.  
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you do?

really?  
where?

:dubious:

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**Author:** ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-really-does-say-it-all/184555/25 "2003-06-27T11:40:37Z")

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**Already in Use** : When I got this for the fourth time, I replied to the mil and pretty much said that to her. Her reply was that I was entitled to my opinion.

Which is nice.

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> \*Originally posted by Mangetout \*  
> what was your point again?

I’m not sure, but think it boils down to ‘Immigration was a good idea back in my grandma’s day’.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-really-does-say-it-all/184555/26 "2003-06-27T11:50:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Marley23 \*  
> \*\*Probably weeping over this AND the tragic loss of Strom Thurmond. Why do they always have to go so young? \*\*

Did Strom Thurmond REALLY die, or did the audioanimatronics finally just fail? Those 1950s vacuum tubes can be hard to find…

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-really-does-say-it-all/184555/27 "2003-06-27T12:35:40Z")

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Heh. Quietman is funny. Vacuum tubes. Heh.

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**Author:** ![cartfanhef](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a5b964/32.png) [@cartfanhef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cartfanhef)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2003, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-really-does-say-it-all/184555/28 "2003-06-28T02:07:59Z")

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Oh, what the hell, Ive already pissed you all off, why not just tweek a few more of those “Straight Dope(from the Pravda)” funny bones…

Oh, btw, take a chill pill people…Remember I didnt author the original message…I just liked the wording of it and wanted to see if anyone could find something wrong with it…seems I found the right (or left) room…

Enjoy…

Manufacturers announced today that they will be stocking America’s  
shelves this week with “Clinton Soup,” in honor one of the nation’s  
most distinguished men. It consists primarily of a weenie in hot  
water.

Chrysler Corporation is adding a new car to its line to honor Bill  
Clinton. The Dodge Drafter will begin production in Canada this year.

When Clinton was asked what he thought about foreign affairs, he  
replied “I don’t know, I never had one.”

American Indians have nicknamed Bill Clinton “Walking Eagle” because  
he is so full of crap he can’t fly.

Clinton lacked only three things to have become one of America’s  
finest leaders: integrity, vision, and wisdom.

Clinton was doing the work of three men: Moe, Larry & Curly.

Revised judicial oath: “I solemnly swear to tell the truth as I know  
it, the whole truth as I believe it to be, and nothing but what I think  
you need to know.”

You know, politicians and diapers have one thing in common. Both  
should be changed regularly, and for the same reason!

Clinton will be recorded in History as,  
"The only President to do HANKY- PANKY between BUSHES

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**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2003, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-really-does-say-it-all/184555/29 "2003-06-28T02:19:15Z")

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About that Muslim woman with the driver’s license:

She was not an immigrant. She was an American citizen who had converted to Islam. And I think that explains a lot about that whole cockeyed lawsuit nonsense.

You see, if she HAD been an immigrant – let’s say from a Muslim country – say, Pakistan, for example – simply having a driver’s license at ALL would have been quite a jump. It is my understanding that most women there do not drive. Hell, it is my understanding that they don’t leave the fraggin’ HOUSE unless their husband or father gives the okay.

It also occurs to me that an immigrant would not be so presumptuous… or so stupid… as to challenge the laws of her host country. Particularly considering some of the laws of her own country.

No… no… the more I examined the case, the more I realized that what we had here was a situation of a person who had decided that she had a RIGHT to something, and was prepared to throw lawyers at the situation until it settled to her satisfaction.

The only people I know of who routinely act like this to the point of stupidity are the Americans, the Canadians, and the French.

No, this woman was as American as they come, and as soon as I had all the facts, I wondered why I hadn’t realized it sooner…

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