This....Reddit......thing....(now back here)

In this latest ban I got, I, no way, engaged in “harrassment and bullying” - just simply challenged some trolly alt-right creepo without resorting to any ad hominem comments or anything, and made me wonder if reddit is trying to play soft with that toxic contingent or stupidly attempting bothsidesism.
Even very minor stuff - never bothered to find out what flairs or “karma” was for the six months I was there.
I know no one here is into hockey, but it must be said the r/hockey sub had mainly knowlegeable (and often funny!) posters there.
r/CrackheadCraigslist was often quite entertaining, among one or two other subs, but other than that, doubtful I’ll be re-visiting reddit.
Here’s cooler.

Doesn’t each subreddit essentially act as its own forum, with its own rules and core members and moderators? Do the sitewide admins from corporate really step in during day to day discussions and disagreements?

Yes, but very rarely did I see mods step in to intervene, other than commenting “automoderators”.

I don’t understand… weren’t you banned multiple times? Were those not by the moderators?

Yes, but by automoderator or IRL mod I’ll never know. My point being I’ve almost never seen a mod appear in a thread, regardless of how off the rails it might be going. Certainly never as effectively modded as it has been here.

Ah, got it. Yeah, we have great moderation here, for which I’m very thankful.

I’m banned from r/mildlyinteresting but can’t exactly figure out why. I only remember one warning and you are supposed to get 3. Something to do with a title of a post I made. I’m a very cautious poster, I don’t do anything risque. But they have a method to get unbanned. You have to narc on 3 other posters!!!

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I have a low tolerance for that kind of thing.
Never once had to deal with that mod snowflakiness here.

Yeaah, but they can get picky and usually support liberal views. It ain’t neutral.

First, please don’t take this as an attack on you or your personal POV @mixdenny, but I’d like to express my POV on neutrality here.

Speaking for myself as a poster, and not as a mod ('cause that would be ATMB) I am absolutely more sympathetic with most “liberal” social positions as expressed in America, though I’m also more… pragmatic? about what the tax burden may have to be than some.

And yes I strongly disagree as a poster with some posters who are on the more conservative side of the spectrum. But when I’m moderating, it’s very much about keeping the conversation on track, moving, and reducing the personal attacks, no matter the preferences of the poster in question.

I’ve also refused quite a number of flags to correct statements perceived as counter-factual, because that isn’t our job as mods.

So, no, we’re not “neutral” - we have personal opinions, preferences and tolerances. But by and large, all of us moderate based on the rules as currently posted.

If you seriously think I or the others are heavily putting our fingers on the scales, then I seriously suggest you open up an ATMB thread on it.

[ again, modhat is off, you are free to disagree with my opinions as a poster, but again, feel that subject is better suited to ATMB ]

Back to a more general conversation though, it appears the biggest contrast to reddit style moderation (as laid out by @mixdenny) is that we HAVE places like ATMB or even (polite please!) DM’s to the forum moderators where you can make the case. With better understandings, I’ve seen plenty of rulings mitigated (or elevated), misunderstandings resolved, as well as fair number where a majority of mods disagreed with an individual poster. It’s a human society, it isn’t perfect, and like all others it has rules that not everyone agrees with 100%.

Do I think it’s a lot better (and again, ATMB being a large part of it!) than most other social media platforms that seem ruled by either the rule of large numbers, monetization/clicks/views, or by a very narrow range of allowed posting? Hell yes.

Others obviously disagree, or rather, everyone would like the lines drawn differently, more permissive or less, more free form or less, etc. Again, seems human nature. :person_shrugging: