# This story right here is why I will always hate police officers

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-story-right-here-is-why-i-will-always-hate-police-officers/693504>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 19, 2014, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-story-right-here-is-why-i-will-always-hate-police-officers/693504 "2014-07-19T02:29:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![FBJJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8e8cbc/32.png) [@FBJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FBJJ)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2014, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-story-right-here-is-why-i-will-always-hate-police-officers/693504/121 "2014-07-20T01:05:31Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Dude, this crowd ain’t buying what you’re selling.

You don’t keep viewing someone you are not attracted unless you are retarded

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2014, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-story-right-here-is-why-i-will-always-hate-police-officers/693504/122 "2014-07-20T01:15:52Z")

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> [@FBJJ](#):
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> You don’t keep viewing someone you are not attracted unless you are retarded

Or she’s showing her friends so they can laugh at you too.

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**Author:** ![FBJJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8e8cbc/32.png) [@FBJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FBJJ)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2014, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-story-right-here-is-why-i-will-always-hate-police-officers/693504/123 "2014-07-20T01:18:56Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Or she’s showing her friends so they can laugh at you too.

Just hard to tell, some people said it could be showing her friends who she met and likes  
This is I prefer the fetish lifestyle

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2014, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-story-right-here-is-why-i-will-always-hate-police-officers/693504/124 "2014-07-20T01:23:59Z")

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> [@FBJJ](#):
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> This is I prefer the fetish lifestyle

That tends to be a fairly small community in a given town. Odds are good that you’ve creeped her out, and are unlikely to ever get into that community. You live out the rest of your days a sad and lonely failure, with nothing better to do than troll message boards…just like you’re doing here. Most people will hate you, and rightfully so.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2014, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-story-right-here-is-why-i-will-always-hate-police-officers/693504/125 "2014-07-20T01:29:55Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> And that was probably the result of the chokehold. Which, assuming that’s the case, was applied by one cop. The police department has forbidden chokeholds. So why are you holding every police officer responsible for what one police officer did?

Not only did they use a chokehold, they also sat on him, which is also forbidden by NYPD practices.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2014, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-story-right-here-is-why-i-will-always-hate-police-officers/693504/126 "2014-07-20T01:33:12Z")

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> [@FBJJ](#):
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> departmental discipline means NO DISCIPLINE

[Cop in Chokehold Arrest Death Stripped of Badge Amid Growing Outcry](http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Staten-Island-Man-Dies-Heart-Attack-Police-Custody-267599171.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_NYBrand)

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> Officials say an eight-year veteran of the NYPD has been stripped of his badge and gun because of his involvement in the arrest of a Staten Island man who died in police custody after being put in a chokehold.
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> Authorities said Saturday that Officer Daniel Pantaleo has been place on modified assignment pending further investigation into the arrest of 43-year-old Eric Garner, which was captured on cellphone video showing the chokehold, which is a tactic prohibited by NYPD policy.
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> Officials said another officer involved in the arrest, a four-year veteran of the force who has not been identified, has been put on administrative duty but has not had to surrender his gun and shield.

Given that the event happened Thursday, this is light speed (and the union is upset). While we, as a society, demand instant gratification, instant decisions often lead to bad decisions. I don’t think this is a bad decision, but I don’t think the officer got due process, and just because Garner didn’t get due process does not make it right.

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2014, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-story-right-here-is-why-i-will-always-hate-police-officers/693504/127 "2014-07-20T01:40:27Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Not only did they use a chokehold, they also sat on him, which is also forbidden by NYPD practices.

So the police trampled **and** smothered him? No wonder the OP is so hot and bothered…

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2014, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-story-right-here-is-why-i-will-always-hate-police-officers/693504/128 "2014-07-20T01:40:40Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> [Cop in Chokehold Arrest Death Stripped of Badge Amid Growing Outcry](http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Staten-Island-Man-Dies-Heart-Attack-Police-Custody-267599171.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_NYBrand)
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> Given that the event happened Thursday, this is light speed (and the union is upset). While we, as a society, demand instant gratification, instant decisions often lead to bad decisions. I don’t think this is a bad decision, but I don’t think the officer got due process, and just because Garner didn’t get due process does not make it right.

Isn’t this part of due process?  
They didn’t fire or discipline him, they’re simply modifying his assignment till it all (hopefully for him) clears investigation. Seems like a good policy for circumstances where a suspect has died.  
Does he still receive his normal pay and benefits? If not than I think he’s got a legitimate complain, but you have to have an investigation and in the case of a death I don’t think it’s irresponsible to ask the officer to be on modified duty while it’s in progress.

Of course there’s the distinct possibility I’m missing something.

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**Author:** ![FBJJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8e8cbc/32.png) [@FBJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FBJJ)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2014, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-story-right-here-is-why-i-will-always-hate-police-officers/693504/129 "2014-07-20T01:41:58Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> That tends to be a fairly small community in a given town. Odds are good that you’ve creeped her out, and are unlikely to ever get into that community. You live out the rest of your days a sad and lonely failure, with nothing better to do than troll message boards…just like you’re doing here. Most people will hate you, and rightfully so.

Now why in the world would you say something like that?

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2014, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-story-right-here-is-why-i-will-always-hate-police-officers/693504/130 "2014-07-20T02:49:32Z")

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Truth? Fighting ignorance? The usual.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2014, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-story-right-here-is-why-i-will-always-hate-police-officers/693504/131 "2014-07-20T04:15:20Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Agreed. My operating theory is that FBJJ is common good. They’re both clearly moronic when it comes to discussing law enforcement.

Seems that way. One incident equals a blanket statement. I thought we were pitting these particular policemen, not every police officer ever…

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2014, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-story-right-here-is-why-i-will-always-hate-police-officers/693504/132 "2014-07-20T04:20:39Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> [Cop in Chokehold Arrest Death Stripped of Badge Amid Growing Outcry](http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Staten-Island-Man-Dies-Heart-Attack-Police-Custody-267599171.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_NYBrand)
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> Given that the event happened Thursday, this is light speed (and the union is upset). While we, as a society, demand instant gratification, instant decisions often lead to bad decisions. I don’t think this is a bad decision, but I don’t think the officer got due process, and just because Garner didn’t get due process does not make it right.

Glad they were swift with ONE officer, now the rest who held him down after cuffing him??

I’ll agree due process wasn’t met, but a review will happen of some sort. No idea what the process of that is.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2014, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-story-right-here-is-why-i-will-always-hate-police-officers/693504/133 "2014-07-20T08:48:31Z")

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I keep checking this thread to see if the OP has managed to spell the singular form of the noun _women_ correctly. Still no joy.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2014, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-story-right-here-is-why-i-will-always-hate-police-officers/693504/134 "2014-07-20T13:49:07Z")

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In case anyone is interested in facts, autopsy shows no sign of neck trauma, asphyxia or strangulation. Cause of death will be heart attack. Not too surprising on a nearly 400lbs man.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2014, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-story-right-here-is-why-i-will-always-hate-police-officers/693504/135 "2014-07-20T13:59:46Z")

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> [@FBJJ](#):
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> I learned that being TALL, BLACK, and BIG means “Guilty”

From the thread title and this statement, we learned that you are a moron.

Well…actually, we pretty much knew that already. You just confirmed it. You and\*\* Common Good\*\* should go off in the corner and have a mutual wankfest.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2014, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-story-right-here-is-why-i-will-always-hate-police-officers/693504/136 "2014-07-20T14:32:41Z")

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> [@FBJJ](#):
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> excuse me???

[garrett morris]OP IS A FUCKING TROLL AND PROBABLY A SOCK PUPPET. GO AWAY.[/gm]

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2014, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-story-right-here-is-why-i-will-always-hate-police-officers/693504/137 "2014-07-20T15:16:32Z")

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I just want to take a moment to (slightly) defend **FBJJ**. As bad as he is (and he is very bad), I came across a police/police supporters MB. I won’t link to avoid a board war, but here are some quotes from just the first page. Each quote is from a separate post and there were 20 posts on the first page. I was too disgusted to read all 6 pages.

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> Once again, the warm weather brings out these cop fighters. The dirtbag, cop-hating press is having a great time misreporting this one, with the Staten Island Advance being Numero Uno. Two or three weeks from now the M.E.'s office will release their report showing that this big tub of shytte died of a massive heart attack, caused by arteries that were 99% blocked by cholesterol.  
> …  
> The cops will now get blamed for this porkadelic piece of shytte’s death; nobody has the ballz to show that the skell killed himself due to a lifetime of gorging his pie hole with fried chicken and french fries. Another example of an azzhole who decides to fight the police, rather than just accept a DAT.
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> The local Kentucky Fried Chicken has its flag at half staff.

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> Another tragic event where several good cops lives were ruined.

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> ERIC GARNER? Yeah! Sure you are! A Nordic/Germanic given name and Anglo-Saxon surname! How dare you steal our names!
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> You are hereby posthumously renamed MOBUTU TAKANUKU!😃

and the worst:

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> I guess it’s the best thing for his tribe. He probably never worked a legit job. They city will pay off the family and they will be in Nigggaaa heaven for the rest of their lives!!

Is it any wonder why people have negative feelings towards police? No way of telling which, if any, are actually officers, but this is positive reinforcement for some PO.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2014, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-story-right-here-is-why-i-will-always-hate-police-officers/693504/138 "2014-07-20T15:50:20Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> No way of telling which, if any, are actually officers, but this is positive reinforcement for some PO.

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> a commenting board for former and current NYPD personnel

I’m guessing the emphasis is on former. Then there’s this from another LEO message board:

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> F^ck … all their racist, mole rat looking, beer gut, menopausal, arseholes. Those dudes hide behind a computer like the kkk hiding behind a sheet. They hate the job but are too scared to tell people how they really feel to their face. COWARDS.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2014, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-story-right-here-is-why-i-will-always-hate-police-officers/693504/139 "2014-07-20T16:13:53Z")

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Sadly, when they are on the street, you can’t tell which ones are hiding behind a sheet when behind closed doors, and which aren’t. And the poster of your quote wasn’t exactly saluted on that MB.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2014, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-story-right-here-is-why-i-will-always-hate-police-officers/693504/140 "2014-07-20T17:44:27Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> I keep checking this thread to see if the OP has managed to spell the singular form of the noun _women_ correctly. Still no joy.

Your joy is lost forever, at least as this board is concerned. You could probably Google him, but no.

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