# This stupid fucking bag ban in California **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 27, 2016, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-stupid-fucking-bag-ban-in-california/773112 "2016-11-27T00:02:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-stupid-fucking-bag-ban-in-california/773112/201 "2016-12-01T00:12:36Z")
I’m still trying to understand what’s so hard about carrying a string bag or a reusable grocery bag in your backpack, purse, or briefcase. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-stupid-fucking-bag-ban-in-california/773112/202 "2016-12-01T00:26:57Z")
> [@susan](#): > > I’m still trying to understand what’s so hard about carrying a string bag or a reusable grocery bag in your backpack, purse, or briefcase. You’re assuming everyone can afford a backpack, purse, or briefcase. 😉 (Seriously, though, I don’t get it, either.) ---
**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-stupid-fucking-bag-ban-in-california/773112/203 "2016-12-01T00:48:45Z")
> [@Nawth\_Chucka](#): > > I’m privileged enough to be able to compost, recycle all paper/plastic/metal easily and locally; I’m not poor, I’m more physically able than some people and I have a car that runs fine which I can take my recycling in to the recycling center. I live alone and don’t make much trash that has to be thrown out. If you recycle all paper/plastic/metal then you are doing it wrong, because not all paper/plastic/metal is recyclable. Your supposed minimization of waste does not change the fact that you are recommending a practice that is not conducive with keeping that waste contained while it is transferred and stored. Never mind that not everyone has the option of taking out loose trash. My building doesn’t provide access to the dumpster and forbids loose trash down the chute. ---
**Author:** ![Balthisar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/balthisar/32/2825_2.png) [@Balthisar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balthisar)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-stupid-fucking-bag-ban-in-california/773112/204 "2016-12-01T03:47:38Z")
> [@susan](#): > > I’m still trying to understand what’s so hard about carrying a string bag or a reusable grocery bag in your backpack, purse, or briefcase. A lot of people don’t carry backpacks, purses, or briefcases. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-stupid-fucking-bag-ban-in-california/773112/205 "2016-12-01T04:15:06Z")
> [@Balthisar](#): > > A lot of people don’t carry backpacks, purses, or briefcases. Even if it’s necessary they’ll need them? ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-stupid-fucking-bag-ban-in-california/773112/206 "2016-12-01T04:30:47Z")
Okay, then I don’t understand what’s difficult about carrying your previously-used plastic bags wadded up in your pocket when you’re going shopping. People manage to carry a lot of plastic dog poop bags in their pockets. Some of them have dog poop in them, yet that seems not to be a problem. ---
**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-stupid-fucking-bag-ban-in-california/773112/207 "2016-12-01T06:33:56Z")
> [@susan](#): > > Okay, then I don’t understand what’s difficult about carrying your previously-used plastic bags wadded up in your pocket when you’re going shopping. People manage to carry a lot of plastic dog poop bags in their pockets. Some of them have dog poop in them, yet that seems not to be a problem. Where I come from, carrying random plastic bags in your pocket is something crazy hoarder type people do. ---
**Author:** ![Balthisar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/balthisar/32/2825_2.png) [@Balthisar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balthisar)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-stupid-fucking-bag-ban-in-california/773112/208 "2016-12-01T12:57:09Z")
> [@joyfool](#): > > Even if it’s necessary they’ll need them? If it’s know that they’ll need them, then that’s one thing, but there are literally an infinite number of things that one _might_ need, and one can’t be expected to carry all of them. Even paretoing it down, in the end it seems to be only women with huge, full, handbags who tend to carry a bunch of stuff “just in case.” A lot of Dopers keep jumper cables in their cars in the even they’ll need them, but very few of us walk around with garlic in our pockets in the event of vampire attacks (although I suppose at least one of us walks around with a nutmeg for good luck). ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-stupid-fucking-bag-ban-in-california/773112/209 "2016-12-01T19:36:18Z")
> [@Martini\_Enfield](#): > > Where I come from, carrying random plastic bags in your pocket is something crazy hoarder type people do. When I said to my dog-owning mother that no, I would not pick up dog shit with my hands, she rolled her eyes and rejoined, “You don’t pick it up with your hands, you pick it up with a bag.” So which of us was crazier? ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-stupid-fucking-bag-ban-in-california/773112/210 "2016-12-01T19:47:06Z")
> [@Ruken](#): > > If you recycle all paper/plastic/metal then you are doing it wrong, because not all paper/plastic/metal is recyclable. Your supposed minimization of waste does not change the fact that you are recommending a practice that is not conducive with keeping that waste contained while it is transferred and stored. > > Never mind that not everyone has the option of taking out loose trash. My building doesn’t provide access to the dumpster and forbids loose trash down the chute. I do not buy anything I do not know how to reuse or recycle properly. If the packaging isn’t recyclable, I don’t buy the thing. I have been inconvenienced at times but either found a way around it or to do without. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-stupid-fucking-bag-ban-in-california/773112/211 "2016-12-01T19:54:16Z")
The bag ban is why I shop at the CVS now as they still use plastic bags. Then on the drive home I throw the bags out the window since most people are deprived of the joy of littering. I do it for the rights of the people. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-stupid-fucking-bag-ban-in-california/773112/212 "2016-12-01T19:59:56Z")
Here in Colorado if I use the self checkout lane I can octuple-bag my groceries. Maybe I can work out a deal with my bag-deprived CA friends. Black market business op? ---
**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-stupid-fucking-bag-ban-in-california/773112/213 "2016-12-01T22:20:26Z")
> [@susan](#): > > When I said to my dog-owning mother that no, I would not pick up dog shit with my hands, she rolled her eyes and rejoined, “You don’t pick it up with your hands, you pick it up with a bag.” So which of us was crazier? I’m not a dog person. ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-stupid-fucking-bag-ban-in-california/773112/214 "2016-12-01T22:49:00Z")
> [@susan](#): > > When I said to my dog-owning mother that no, I would not pick up dog shit with my hands, she rolled her eyes and rejoined, “You don’t pick it up with your hands, you pick it up with a bag.” So which of us was crazier? There’s always newspaper. That’s what we used when I was a kid. ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-stupid-fucking-bag-ban-in-california/773112/215 "2016-12-01T23:01:25Z")
> [@Martini\_Enfield](#): > > Where I come from, carrying random plastic bags in your pocket is something crazy hoarder type people do. You’re not saying you care what other people think about the contents of your pocket, are you? ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-stupid-fucking-bag-ban-in-california/773112/216 "2016-12-02T04:10:56Z")
> [@Balthisar](#): > > If it’s know that they’ll need them, then that’s one thing, but there are literally an infinite number of things that one _might_ need, and one can’t be expected to carry all of them. Even paretoing it down, in the end it seems to be only women with huge, full, handbags who tend to carry a bunch of stuff “just in case.” A lot of Dopers keep jumper cables in their cars in the even they’ll need them, but very few of us walk around with garlic in our pockets in the event of vampire attacks (although I suppose at least one of us walks around with a nutmeg for good luck). However, if you are going _shopping_, in a place that has a flipping _bag ban_, then that’s when I think you’ll definitely know in advance that you’ll need to do something different and, I dunno, bring something reusable to put your purchases in. But maybe that’s just me. ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-stupid-fucking-bag-ban-in-california/773112/217 "2016-12-02T05:15:46Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > The bag ban is why I shop at the CVS now as they still use plastic bags. Then on the drive home I throw the bags out the window since most people are deprived of the joy of littering. I do it for the rights of the people. Plus you’re helping the poor! Seattle’s had a bag ban for a few years now. There was some squawking at first, but I haven’t heard anything lately. I don’t know about non-homeless poor people, but the homeless don’t appear to have any trouble getting bags. ---
**Author:** ![Balthisar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/balthisar/32/2825_2.png) [@Balthisar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balthisar)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-stupid-fucking-bag-ban-in-california/773112/218 "2016-12-02T21:28:30Z")
> [@joyfool](#): > > However, if you are going _shopping_, in a place that has a flipping _bag ban_, then that’s when I think you’ll definitely know in advance that you’ll need to do something different and, I dunno, bring something reusable to put your purchases in. But maybe that’s just me. Well, yeah, but there are a lot of comments about people who make unplanned, spontaneous shopping trips. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-stupid-fucking-bag-ban-in-california/773112/219 "2016-12-03T17:23:48Z")
> [@Balthisar](#): > > Well, yeah, but there are a lot of comments about people who make unplanned, spontaneous shopping trips. A 10¢ charge doesn’t sound unreasonable under those circumstances. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-stupid-fucking-bag-ban-in-california/773112/220 "2016-12-03T17:35:49Z")
Except to the OP, who seems to view that as an unreasonable burden either on poor people in general or himself specifically. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-stupid-fucking-bag-ban-in-california/773112.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-stupid-fucking-bag-ban-in-california/773112.md?page=12)