# This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by a third party **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 26, 2008, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-video-is-no-longer-available-due-to-a-copyright-claim-by-a-third-party/478690 "2008-12-26T00:33:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-video-is-no-longer-available-due-to-a-copyright-claim-by-a-third-party/478690/21 "2008-12-26T15:28:13Z")
You’ve got to love that arrangement of _Africa_. I swear, college a capella has kept Toto’s name fresh well beyond its “use by” date. Frankly, if I were the members of Toto, I’d be pissed that _other_ young guys are still getting laid for performing this song while _they_ aren’t getting any of that action. Where’s their piece of the pie!?!? ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-video-is-no-longer-available-due-to-a-copyright-claim-by-a-third-party/478690/22 "2008-12-26T15:36:26Z")
> [@Eonwe](#): > > You’ve got to love that arrangement of _Africa_. ? Brought tears to my eyes. I’m turning into a freakin’ marshmallow. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-video-is-no-longer-available-due-to-a-copyright-claim-by-a-third-party/478690/23 "2008-12-26T16:23:59Z")
Fucking SPECTACULAR. A Pit thread is worth something! It’s a Christmas miracle! ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-video-is-no-longer-available-due-to-a-copyright-claim-by-a-third-party/478690/24 "2008-12-26T17:12:12Z")
Wow. Truly great art. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-video-is-no-longer-available-due-to-a-copyright-claim-by-a-third-party/478690/25 "2008-12-26T17:30:15Z")
You can also get a lot of their music from here: > **[Randy of Straight No Chaser](https://www.youtube.com/user/mikado95)** > > Randy Stine's account, member of the original Straight No Chaser > > http://www.sncmusic.com ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-video-is-no-longer-available-due-to-a-copyright-claim-by-a-third-party/478690/26 "2008-12-26T17:38:01Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > You can also get a lot of their music from here: > > [http://www.youtube.com/user/mikado95](http://www.youtube.com/user/mikado95) That link doesn’t play. It’s a Youtube link. The video portion is restricted. Here’s what the caption says: > [@](#): > > You may have read recently about Warner Music Group removing all of their artist’s videos from Youtube. This affected us as well, so many of our videos are no longer available here. Please visit [www.myspace.com/sncmusic](http://www.myspace.com/sncmusic) to watch The 12 Days of Christmas and send to your friends! ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-video-is-no-longer-available-due-to-a-copyright-claim-by-a-third-party/478690/27 "2008-12-26T17:52:11Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > Yeah, it’s a pretty awesome rendition of the song. I still like the version by the US Navy Chorus better ([summary](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9306388&postcount=13)); wish I could find a video of theirs. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-video-is-no-longer-available-due-to-a-copyright-claim-by-a-third-party/478690/28 "2008-12-26T18:15:06Z")
> [@MsRobyn](#): > > I’m not sure Atlantic could claim copyright on a video that obviously predated SNC’s contract with them. It wouldn’t surprise me, however, to find out that Atlantic sent a letter from their lawyers to YouTube, and that YouTube caved. > > Bastards. > > Robin As your later post notes, they at least were within their legal rights to make such a demand, stupid as we all might find it. What’s even worse is that ISPs and content-hosting websites generally cave in to copyright challenges without checking their validity, and in many cases will remove perfectly legal content or, in the case of ISPs, non-infringing websites, on the mere say-so of any third party who happens to make a challenge. A few years ago, an organization in Europe devoted to sensible copyright tested out about a dozen European ISPs. They got an account with each of the ISPs, and posted identical website content on each one. The content on the website was, IIRC, the text of a work that had been in the public domain for decades, perhaps even centuries. There was no possible copyright claim that anyone could make on it. Then, having posted this content, they sent letters, on law firm letterhead, to each of the ISPs claiming copyright ownership of the content, and asking that it be removed. Something like half of the ISPs removed the “offending” websites immediately, asking no questions of the claimants, and providing the site owners with no opportunity defend their content or refute the copyright claim. Another couple of ISPs informed the site owners, and still shut the sites down even though the owners attempted to make clear that the content was in the public domain. Only a few ISPs offered their customers any sort of protection from, or resistance to, fraudulent copyright claims. This is all from memory; i’ll see if i can find the study online, because it doesn’t seem to be in my bookmarks anywhere. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-video-is-no-longer-available-due-to-a-copyright-claim-by-a-third-party/478690/29 "2008-12-26T18:20:16Z")
Your bookmarks are no longer available due to a copyright claim by a third party. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-video-is-no-longer-available-due-to-a-copyright-claim-by-a-third-party/478690/30 "2008-12-26T20:40:13Z")
I liked ti when the one guy broke into the dreadle song. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-video-is-no-longer-available-due-to-a-copyright-claim-by-a-third-party/478690.md?page=1)