# This Wedks's awful Mass Murder **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 4, 2019, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-wedkss-awful-mass-murder/838157 "2019-08-04T04:52:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-wedkss-awful-mass-murder/838157/141 "2019-08-07T18:41:39Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > No, we’re talking about the many more people that were killed by a mere two shooters, one of whom was a white supremacist Trump supporter, in El Paso and Dayton. Actually both… but with payment as barter with a nice heavy brick of a commodity ( like gold? ). ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-wedkss-awful-mass-murder/838157/142 "2019-08-07T20:14:12Z")
> [@Biotop](#): > > We have fomented such a culture of anger and hatred that it gives the severely unstable license to commit these awful acts. In accepting a culture of anger and hate we have justified their rage. And we have given them easy access to mass killing weapons. This has to change now or it will keep happening again and again and again and again. “We” fostered a culture of anger and hatred? “We” justify their rage? NO. Hell no. We need to place the blame where it belongs … on THEM. Fuck them and their “rage”. We need to single them out, those who are most likely t do these things, because the warning signs are there, for each of them. They generally have some history of domestic violence, or felony, or police record, SOMETHING. They are not just fantasizing, or talking trash, or playing soldier, when they go on YouTube or join some “,militia” or start buying stupid amounts of ammo all of a sudden. And Second Amendment or not, we need to keep them from getting even a pea shooter or a slingshot. AND, now we know “thanks to” the Vegas shooter, that all bump stocks, “modified” sears, “mod kits”, etc need to GO. Just because there is a Second Amendment, does not mean we have to let psychos, far right Nazis, and twisted assholes get anything they want. What we have in this country is a Domestic Terror problem. And it’s far right white guys. It isn’t the “ayrabs”, “messicans”, “mooslums”, or any of that. That’s bullshit. It’s home grown white supremacists. I’m white, I’m middle class, I’m a gun owner, and I’m sick and tired of the bullshit. No the “libruls” didn’t grab all the guns. No they don’t WANT to grab all the guns… no matter what some fucking LIAR on FOX or in the Republican party says. But I’m sick of the constant “thoughts and prayers but fuck you I just cashed my NRA check” bullshit. And I’m sick and tired of these fuckers trading lives to cater to a brainless toothless inbred racist “base”. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-wedkss-awful-mass-murder/838157/143 "2019-08-07T20:16:09Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > Sane. Unfortunately, sanity isn’t popular anymore. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-wedkss-awful-mass-murder/838157/144 "2019-08-07T20:17:14Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Reading the comments on the Fox new article about this, there are a number of people who argued that if only the Latinos weren’t invading, then people wouldn’t get so angry they had to shoot them. So it’s all the Democrats fault. Oh Jesus Christ. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-wedkss-awful-mass-murder/838157/145 "2019-08-07T22:00:29Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Reading the comments on the Fox new article about this, there are a number of people who argued that if only the Latinos weren’t invading, then people wouldn’t get so angry they had to shoot them. So it’s all the Democrats fault. “Look what you made us do!!” The conservative personal responsibility ethic in action. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-wedkss-awful-mass-murder/838157/146 "2019-08-07T22:05:52Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > “Look what you made us do!!” > > The conservative personal responsibility ethic in action. Ha, nice catch. ---
**Author:** ![Mcmechanic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@Mcmechanic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mcmechanic)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-wedkss-awful-mass-murder/838157/147 "2019-08-08T03:54:10Z")
I see a huge market for tech. Companies here, wrt identitying mass shooters before they attack. You could download an app that monitors social media, past purchases, and location. and lets you know when someone who fits the description of a mass killer is nearby, and issues a warning to subscribers. And the best part? No big bad nanny government involved. Now that’s a solution all parties can agree on ---
**Author:** ![Mcmechanic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@Mcmechanic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mcmechanic)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-wedkss-awful-mass-murder/838157/148 "2019-08-08T04:01:52Z")
Free the free market! Unless you’re a pussy ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-wedkss-awful-mass-murder/838157/149 "2019-08-08T04:29:24Z")
> [@Mcmechanic](#): > > I see a huge market for tech. Companies here, wrt identitying mass shooters before they attack. You could download an app that monitors social media, past purchases, and location. and lets you know when someone who fits the description of a mass killer is nearby, and issues a warning to subscribers. And the best part? No big bad nanny government involved. Now that’s a solution all parties can agree on That’s kinda the plot of the current season of _Elementary_, only the computer mogul villain is preemptively killing the future murderers. ---
**Author:** ![Mcmechanic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@Mcmechanic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mcmechanic)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-wedkss-awful-mass-murder/838157/150 "2019-08-08T04:42:10Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > That’s kinda the plot of the current season of _Elementary_, only the computer mogul villain is preemptively killing the future murderers. Lol, yeah I don’t think an app can do that, yet. But as long as it’s not the big bad gubment right? ---
**Author:** ![Mcmechanic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@Mcmechanic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mcmechanic)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-wedkss-awful-mass-murder/838157/151 "2019-08-08T04:51:25Z")
Or is business AND gubment evil? Fuck I’m so confused. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-wedkss-awful-mass-murder/838157/152 "2019-08-08T04:55:51Z")
Business is beautiful except when Our jobs go to China and Our IT support goes to India. So long as the IT support for the app is in Costa Rica (1) and your telephone is Made in Korea (2), you’re golden. 1: it’s one of those Mexican countries, but one with a healthy economy and society which sends very few people to the US, therefore one which doesn’t exist. Or something. Pura Vida anyway, damn I miss that place. 2: I suggest making that South Korea, but you may need to check with your President. ---
**Author:** ![Mcmechanic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@Mcmechanic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mcmechanic)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-wedkss-awful-mass-murder/838157/153 "2019-08-08T05:07:31Z")
Nevermind, can’t have Cossta Ricans taking advantage of our mass shootings. ---
**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-wedkss-awful-mass-murder/838157/154 "2019-08-08T05:29:40Z")
> [@Mcmechanic](#): > > I honestly think the free market can curtail the majority of lone gunman type mass shootings, if allowed to. Lawyers and insurance companies could bring swift changes. Buying an assault weapon could jack ur home owners premiums through the roof, and if lawyers are allowed to sue all actors involved, would bring swift changes. Let the American system work as intended. It worked for muscle cars, they died pretty quick. They have no incentive to do that, though. Also, muscle cars did not die, they had a temporary decline in popularity which eventually rebounded. Every fourth car I see on the damn road is a new Challenger. ---
**Author:** ![Mcmechanic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@Mcmechanic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mcmechanic)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-wedkss-awful-mass-murder/838157/155 "2019-08-08T05:38:12Z")
The incentive isn’t there, cause of federal protection against free market principles. Modern muscle cars still require higher premiums, and mostly owned by older responsible drivers. Younger drivers? They pay out the ass, as they should ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-wedkss-awful-mass-murder/838157/156 "2019-08-14T03:53:52Z")
Jesus, I just watched surveillance video of the Dayton shooter get gunned down by police on CNN. ---
**Author:** ![Taesahnim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/taesahnim/32/84_2.png) [@Taesahnim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taesahnim)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-wedkss-awful-mass-murder/838157/157 "2019-08-14T14:21:23Z")
> [@Airbeck](#): > > I’m guessing you’ve never been to Chicago? Why don’t you shut up about my city. I’m so sick of people bringing up Chicago as if that somehow means mass shootings are not a problem. So the shootings in Chicago _aren’t_ a problem? That’s good to know. And yes, I have been to Chicago. Many times. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-wedkss-awful-mass-murder/838157/158 "2019-08-14T15:28:52Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > How is the NYT statement that 75% of identifiable assailants and victims are black a “conclusion” as opposed to reporting a fact? So you’ve got a white guy who walks into a store and starts firing away. Seven customers are killed, six of whom happen to be black. Of that set of “assailants and victims,” what percentage would be described as black? Bonus points if you get the answer without clicking on the spoiler box. 75%. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-wedkss-awful-mass-murder/838157/159 "2019-08-14T18:25:22Z")
> [@Taesahnim](#): > > So the shootings in Chicago _aren’t_ a problem? That’s good to know. > > And yes, I have been to Chicago. Many times. Why are you trying to derail this thread with this Chicago stuff? What does Chicago have to do with a mass shooter inspired by Trump to murder a bunch of Hispanic people in El Paso? Every major city in America has shootings. Chicago isn’t even at the top of the list. Are you incapable of just discussing the thread topic? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-wedkss-awful-mass-murder/838157/160 "2019-08-14T19:11:00Z")
> [@airbeck](#): > > why are you trying to derail this thread with this chicago stuff? [прогиб](https://translate.google.com/#view=home&op=translate&sl=ru&tl=en&text=%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B1) 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-wedkss-awful-mass-murder/838157.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-wedkss-awful-mass-murder/838157.md?page=9)