# This whole anti-French thing just went WAY too far

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-whole-anti-french-thing-just-went-way-too-far/161215>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 14, 2003, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-whole-anti-french-thing-just-went-way-too-far/161215 "2003-03-14T00:57:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-whole-anti-french-thing-just-went-way-too-far/161215/1 "2003-03-14T00:57:23Z")

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[There are no words to describe how insulting and stupid this is](http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/03/13/sprj.irq.congress.france/index.html)

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**Author:** ![I\_can\_t\_believe\_that\_s\_butter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@I\_can\_t\_believe\_that\_s\_butter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_can_t_believe_that_s_butter)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-whole-anti-french-thing-just-went-way-too-far/161215/2 "2003-03-14T00:59:32Z")

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There _is_ a smiley for it, though:

☹

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**Author:** ![shelbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@shelbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shelbo)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-whole-anti-french-thing-just-went-way-too-far/161215/3 "2003-03-14T01:01:51Z")

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My philosophy on life, honed over lo these many years of observation of the human condition, fits this situation nicely:

People are fucking nuts.

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**Author:** ![Skid\_Row](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/779978/32.png) [@Skid\_Row](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skid_Row)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-whole-anti-french-thing-just-went-way-too-far/161215/4 "2003-03-14T01:03:00Z")

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Like most republicans (notice I didn’t write conservatives), this lady loves **rhetoric over reality**.

That is the republican mantra. If it sounds good, it must \*\*be \*\* good.

I’ve given up on expecting anything intelligent and well thought-out to emerge from the mouth of a republican.

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**Author:** ![Avalonian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Avalonian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avalonian)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-whole-anti-french-thing-just-went-way-too-far/161215/5 "2003-03-14T01:10:08Z")

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From the article:

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> Brown-Waite, a freshman Republican, said she decided to sponsor the bill after she was approached by a constituent who said he wanted to bring home his father, who was killed in World War II and buried in France.

Now, I’m all about Representatives representing their consituents. That’s the way it’s supposed to be. However, couldn’t there be a way to help _one_ person without passing a bill for _all_ people? Since when do the demands of one person necessitate a legislative action?

I’m not sure if this is better or worse than the “freedom fries” thing on the scale of stupidity, but it definitely ranks. The French-bashing fashion made into law… this should be fun.

I feel like Amy Tan on _The Simpsons_: “I’m embarrassed for _both_ of us.”

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**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-whole-anti-french-thing-just-went-way-too-far/161215/6 "2003-03-14T01:23:21Z")

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As long as she’s pitching self-righteous snits, does the idiot propose we return the Statue of Liberty to France?

I mean, she wouldn’t want to look petty or stupid or anything. “Give us back our war dead, you ungrates, but we’re gonna keep that symbol in NY harbor you gave us that we’re so proud of.”

I’m becoming very, very fed up with elected officials shaming my country.

Veb

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**Author:** ![Legomancer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/779978/32.png) [@Legomancer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Legomancer)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-whole-anti-french-thing-just-went-way-too-far/161215/7 "2003-03-14T01:47:06Z")

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I think we should meet France behind the bleachers after school and beat them up.

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**Author:** ![Wabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wabbit)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-whole-anti-french-thing-just-went-way-too-far/161215/8 "2003-03-14T01:56:38Z")

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To hell with Iraq–lets attack France!!!

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-whole-anti-french-thing-just-went-way-too-far/161215/9 "2003-03-14T01:59:59Z")

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Fuck, this world is going down the tubes.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-whole-anti-french-thing-just-went-way-too-far/161215/10 "2003-03-14T02:30:32Z")

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What I fail to understand, is why the following tidbit of information has been made more public: According to one of France’s former Ambassadors to the UN, France has _already_ given the US permission to use France’s airspace, if it needs to, in the war with Iraq. Seems to me, if that it were more widely known, it’d go a long way towards smoothing things over between the US and the French.

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**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-whole-anti-french-thing-just-went-way-too-far/161215/11 "2003-03-14T02:32:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by World Eater \*  
> \*\*Fuck, this world is going down the tubes. \*\*

Quit eating it, moron.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-whole-anti-french-thing-just-went-way-too-far/161215/12 "2003-03-14T02:36:01Z")

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Er, make that, “What I fail to understand, is why the following tidbit of information **hasn’t** been made more public…”

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**Author:** ![Lissa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lissa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissa)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-whole-anti-french-thing-just-went-way-too-far/161215/13 "2003-03-14T05:46:04Z")

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\*\*Tuckerfan, \*\* nobody wants to hear anything positive about the French right now. It’s more fun to bash them and rename our greasy foodstuffs.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-whole-anti-french-thing-just-went-way-too-far/161215/14 "2003-03-14T05:56:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lissa \*  
> \*\*\*\*Tuckerfan, \*\* nobody wants to hear anything positive about the French right now. It’s more fun to bash them and rename our greasy foodstuffs. \*\*

Yeah, but I’d think that folks would love to be screaming, "SEE! SEE! They _say_ they’re against the war, but they’re gonna let us use their airspace! They didn’t let us when we went after Libya!

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**Author:** ![Earthworm\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f07891/32.png) [@Earthworm\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earthworm_Jim)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-whole-anti-french-thing-just-went-way-too-far/161215/15 "2003-03-14T13:16:41Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Avalonian \*  
> **However, couldn’t there be a way to help _one_ person without passing a bill for _all_ people?**

[sarcasm]  
Hey, 'United We Stand", right? So either unite or get out.  
[/sarcasm]

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**Author:** ![istara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e79b87/32.png) [@istara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/istara)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-whole-anti-french-thing-just-went-way-too-far/161215/16 "2003-03-14T13:33:59Z")

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I find this really sinister. Someone doesn’t agree with our policies, let’s totally vilify them and blacken their name.

Regardless of the rights and wrongs of America’s or France’s respective positions, this is just freaky. The French-bashing that’s going on is at best bullying, at worst race hate.

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-whole-anti-french-thing-just-went-way-too-far/161215/17 "2003-03-14T13:53:59Z")

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I think it’s a good idea. We should have brought them home and buried them in Arlington to begin with.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-whole-anti-french-thing-just-went-way-too-far/161215/18 "2003-03-14T14:07:06Z")

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**1945 != 2003**

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-whole-anti-french-thing-just-went-way-too-far/161215/19 "2003-03-14T14:10:29Z")

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Oh, quit bashing the US government, people. I think it’s great that we let 6 year olds become senators.

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**Author:** ![Orbifold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orbifold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orbifold)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-whole-anti-french-thing-just-went-way-too-far/161215/20 "2003-03-14T14:15:04Z")

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[Orbifold wracks his brain for an “1984” joke, but can’t think of one…]

Anyway, I can’t help but wonder if there are any French dead from the U.S. revolution buried in the United States. Anyone know?

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