# Thor: Love and Thunder **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies, disney-hulu\ **Created:** [April 18, 2022, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008 "2022-04-18T19:41:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/201 "2022-09-12T01:57:29Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > I didn’t like Russel Crowe as Zeus at all. He just seemed like someone non-threatening doing a silly accent. Didn’t seem scary or divine at all. The idea was that he was a pathetic example of a divine being. He’s what happens when a god gets too full of himself and becomes a cowardly, entitled shell of himself. So it worked. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/202 "2022-09-12T09:49:37Z")
> [@carlb](#): > > OTOH - I laughed out loud _every_ time the goats screamed. I don’t know exactly what it was - maybe it was the obviously human voice that wasn’t even attempting to sound like a goat. [Surprise!](https://youtu.be/nlYlNF30bVg) (no backsies!) Regarding the movie itself: I have. . .notes. There were too many jokes. We didn’t have a super-hero movie with jokes (like Ragnarok), we had a super-hero comedy. It’s like comparing “The Orville” to “Spaceballs.” One is sci-fi with some humor, the other is a comedy with a sci-fi theme. Giving Jane cancer mires the whole movie in sadness. I know it was a plotline in the comics. I don’t care. Intersperse broad comedy with scenes of a cancer patient in bed? I’m sure someone will assure me there’s nothing wrong with this, but it didn’t work for me. The Guardians were wasted. The god of DUMPLINGS? Really? DUMPLINGS? Who prays to that? Dumpling chefs, people who really love to eat dumplings? ACTUAL dumplings? Every time we eat dumplings, are we re-enacting the scene in the show, “The Boys” where The Deep is forced to eat his sentient octopus friend? “He’s . . . praying.” Did anyone else think Zeus’s thunderbolt looked like a prop out of a cheesy 1980’s Saturday morning live-action superhero-themed TV show? It looked like a final project for a high school students metal shop class. I can’t recall the last time I’ve been so underwhelmed by a super-weapon prop, but I’m guessing I was watching an episode of MST3K at the time. Friggin’ DUMPLINGS? ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/203 "2022-09-12T13:20:46Z")
Yeah…the jokes…jeesus. “Ohh…you’ve lost an arm. Well bad news. You see you actually have to die in combat to go to Valhalla…maybe your arm is in Valhalla.” I think the Movie Pitch guy covered it all well. “Thor’s back and boy is he dumber than ever!” ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/204 "2022-09-12T13:39:32Z")
The screaming goats, Zeus, and Floppy Rabbit Girl were definitely the highlights of the movie, with Korg running kind of somewhat distant fourth. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/205 "2022-09-12T13:45:36Z")
Watched it yesterday. Absolutely loved it! Definitely don’t want every movie to be like it, but it’s fun to wash something so unabashedly silly once in a while. ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/206 "2022-09-12T13:57:43Z")
In Elden Ring, there are some people that are hanging, rotting from tree branches…occasionally they’d scream, so I spent a long time trying to shoot the nooses and get the bodies down. Had to look it up to find out it was the goats in the area screaming. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/207 "2022-09-12T14:52:02Z")
> [@Southern\_Yankee](#): > > I felt like maybe the _entire movie_ was being retold by Korg, > [@Jack\_Burden](#): > > I think this is right on; not only is Korg retelling the story, he’s mythologizing it for the kids he’s telling it to. Weirdly, this does make the film suddenly make sense. Either everyone in the film is uncharacteristically stupid and goofy, or the whole film is being told by a characteristically stupid, goofy, and unreliable narrator. ---
**Author:** ![carlb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carlb/32/5930_2.png) [@carlb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carlb)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/208 "2022-09-13T20:20:30Z")
> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#): > > [Surprise!](https://youtu.be/nlYlNF30bVg) > (no backsies!) That was both hilarious and disturbing. Thanks! 😆 ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/209 "2022-09-13T21:05:33Z")
> [@bump](#): > > The screaming goats, Zeus, and Floppy Rabbit Girl were definitely the highlights of the movie, with Korg running kind of somewhat distant fourth. The goats are from the comics, at least somewhat. > **[The History of Thor’s MCU Goats, From Mythology to Marvel Comics](https://nerdist.com/article/thor-love-and-thunder-goats-history-mcu-marvel-comics-mythology/)** > > In Thor: Love and Thunder, Thor will have two magical goats pulling his chariot. These MCU goats have origins in the comics and mythology. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/210 "2022-09-13T21:22:03Z")
[They’re from genuine Norse mythology](https://skjalden.com/thors-goats/). Tanngrisnir (Toothgnasher) and Tanngnjóstr (Toothgrinder) are their names, and they pull Thor’s chariot. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/211 "2022-09-13T23:30:44Z")
And are dinner. _Cabrito_ is on the menu at **Chez Thor**. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/212 "2022-09-14T08:49:54Z")
I did note that Gorr was basically “Gods don’t care whether their followers live or die. Therefore I will entirely base my plan around a god caring whether his followers live or die.” I mean, he presumably knew Thor specifically would go for it but it still amused me. ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/213 "2022-09-14T13:11:41Z")
Sure, Thor has been very publicly acting as a hero across the galaxy, so he’s clearly not the uncaring type. Also, even though Thor is a “god”, he needed Stormbreaker specifically. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/214 "2022-09-14T13:25:39Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Weirdly, this does make the film suddenly make sense. Either everyone in the film is uncharacteristically stupid and goofy, or the whole film is being told by a characteristically stupid, goofy, and unreliable narrator. How is he telling about the parts where he wasn’t present, though? Like the end battle with Gorr? I could stand to watch Natalie Portman as Thor all day, though. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/215 "2022-09-14T13:39:03Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > How is he telling about the parts where he wasn’t present, though? Like the end battle with Gorr? Presumably Thor told him and now he tells us… ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/216 "2022-09-14T13:45:54Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > How is he telling about the parts where he wasn’t present, though? How does any storyteller? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/217 "2022-09-14T13:51:17Z")
and he’s not an entirely reliable narrator either. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/218 "2022-09-14T13:58:14Z")
Eggsactly ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/219 "2022-09-14T16:32:37Z")
the goats told him? ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/220 "2022-11-23T15:54:17Z")
Sorry for the bump but I finally got around to watching this last night. Reading through the thread, I guess I wasn’t as bothered by the pacing or odd the juxtaposition between the serious parts and the comedy as others. The screaming goats were hilarious, and I thought Russell Crowe’s Zeus was a hoot. I also got a kick out of how, whenever Thor would start mooning over Mjolnir, Stormbreaker would just sort of drift into the frame. The whole former girlfriend/former weapon dynamic was really well done, I thought. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008.md?page=12)