# Thor: Love and Thunder **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies, disney-hulu\ **Created:** [April 18, 2022, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008 "2022-04-18T19:41:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2022, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/61 "2022-04-19T17:04:45Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > IMHO, it’s not quite that clear cut. Odin’s exact words were “Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor.” This was right after stripping Thor of all his powers (and armor). Later in the movie, when Thor proved himself worthy by sacrificing himself to save the townspeople, the hammer flew back to him and he got his powers back. And if lifting the hammer is a power of Thor, then before the enchantment no one else could have lifted it regardless of whether they were worthy or not. Yes, my understanding is that the “can’t pick up” part has always been part of the hammer, just the “power of Thor” is new. ---
**Author:** ![jadielyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jadielyn/32/8808_2.png) [@jadielyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jadielyn)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2022, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/62 "2022-04-19T17:07:19Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > (And, if you’re Jane’s old research assistant Darcy, it’s pronounced “Meow-Meow.” 😃 ) Let us not forget the amusing Squirrel Girl run by Ryan North brought us Cat-Thor wielding Mewnir. 😃 [![](https://retconpunchdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/loki-agent-ofsilliness.jpg) ](https://retconpunchdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/loki-agent-ofsilliness.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Burden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/958977/32.png) [@Jack\_Burden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Burden)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2022, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/63 "2022-04-19T17:14:46Z")
In _Thor: Ragnorak_, Odin explains to Thor that the Hammer isn’t the source of his power, it’s a tool to focus his power. And we see Thor repeatedly doing God of Thunder things without Mjolnir. So it seems Thor Odinson, God of Thunder, has inherent powers over and above being an Asgardian, and Mjolnir also confers upon its worthy wielder some kind of power set, which based on the brief view in the promo includes automatic return to the wielder’s hand and cloaking them in Asgardian armor. ---
**Author:** ![icon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c6cbf5/32.png) [@icon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/icon)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2022, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/64 "2022-04-19T17:41:50Z")
> [@Jack\_Burden](#): > > which based on the brief view in the promo includes automatic return to the wielder’s hand This part of the power/enchantment was already seen when Captain American had Mjolnir fly to him during End Game, so it is a known quality. As to the armor, that we don’t know. I could be wrong but it is not explicitly shown in the promo that it does so. Thor does change his appearance in Endgame when he wields the hammer, but Captain America does not (nor does Vision). The movie may tell us more or leave it ambiguous. `//i\\` ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Burden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/958977/32.png) [@Jack\_Burden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Burden)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2022, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/65 "2022-04-19T18:11:37Z")
> [@icon](#): > > As to the armor, that we don’t know. I could be wrong but it is not explicitly shown in the promo that it does so. Thor does change his appearance in Endgame when he wields the hammer, but Captain America does not (nor does Vision). The movie may tell us more or leave it ambiguous. Granted, the armor is an assumption. I’d write off Cap and Vision to already being armored up and/or only being short-term wielders. As for Jane, I don’t know where else in the current MCU timeline she’d acquire that particular suit of armor. (Please don’t take me to the multiverse - I hate it there.) ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2022, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/66 "2022-04-19T18:12:39Z")
> [@Jack\_Burden](#): > > In _Thor: Ragnorak_ , Odin explains to Thor that the Hammer isn’t the source of his power, it’s a tool to focus his power. That scene is one of my favorites, especially Odin’s line: “Are you Thor, the God of Hammers?” ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2022, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/67 "2022-04-19T18:15:10Z")
> [@icon](#): > > Thor does change his appearance in Endgame when he wields the hammer, but Captain America does not (nor does Vision). Maybe it’s just the Hammer version of a customized ring-tone. When Thor wields the hammer, it gives him a preselected set of bells and whistles. When someone not in the system picks it up, they just get the stock powers. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Burden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/958977/32.png) [@Jack\_Burden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Burden)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2022, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/68 "2022-04-19T18:33:53Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Maybe it’s just the Hammer version of a customized ring-tone. When Thor wields the hammer, it gives him a preselected set of bells and whistles. When someone not in the system picks it up, they just get the stock powers. Welcome to Mjolnir 3000 activation service. Please select your ringtone from the following options: 1. Thunderstruck - AC/DC 2. The Thunder Rolls - Garth Brooks 3. Greased Lightnin’ - Grease Soundtrack 4. Maxwell’s Silver Hammer - The Beatles 5. If I Had a Hammer - Pete Seeger 6. Thunder Road - Bruce Springsteen 7. Hammer to Fall - Queen 8. Lightning Crashes - Live 9. U Can’t Touch this - MC Hammer 10. Thunder on the Mountain - Bob Dylan ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2022, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/69 "2022-04-19T18:39:39Z")
Forgot Sledgehammer by Peter Gabriel. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2022, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/70 "2022-04-19T19:22:15Z")
Throw in The Anvil Chorus while you’re at it. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/71 "2022-04-19T19:35:18Z")
What? No Immigrant Song Meownir Ringtone? Too obvious? ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2022, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/72 "2022-04-19T19:57:30Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Maybe it’s just the Hammer version of a customized ring-tone. When Thor wields the hammer, it gives him a preselected set of bells and whistles. When someone not in the system picks it up, they just get the stock powers. Dial H for Hammer? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2022, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/73 "2022-04-19T19:58:53Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > What? No Immigrant Song Meownir Ringtone? Well, that song was, in fact, used in the trailer for _Thor: Ragnarok_. 😃 [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/v7MGUNV8MxU/maxresdefault.jpg "Thor: Ragnarok Teaser Trailer [HD]") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7MGUNV8MxU) ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2022, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/74 "2022-04-19T20:11:34Z")
That just might be my favorite line ever uttered by Thor: “He’s a friend from work.” Right up there with “He’s adopted.” The song was also laid over the Battle on the Bridge, kicking in right after Thor zaps Hel and decides to lend a hand against the horde. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Burden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/958977/32.png) [@Jack\_Burden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Burden)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2022, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/75 "2022-04-19T20:24:06Z")
My fave is from that opening scene when a chained Thor drops in front of Surtur. Surtur: “Thor, Son of Odin” Thor: “Surtur, son of … a bitch! You’re still alive! I thought my father killed you like half a million years ago.” Hemsworth really stepped up his comedic side in Ragnorak, something direly lacking from the first two Thor movies. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/76 "2022-04-20T01:20:33Z")
Ragnorak is my favorite of the Phase 1-3 MCU movies. Everyone is on their A game and the dialog is amazing. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/77 "2022-04-20T01:23:06Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > Ragnorak is my favorite of the Phase 1-3 MCU movies. Everyone is on their A game and the dialog is amazing “I know him! He’s a friend from work!” ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/78 "2022-04-20T01:35:49Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > That just might be my favorite line ever uttered by Thor: “He’s a friend from work.” This is oft repeated, but in case you haven’t heard, the person who came up with that line was a kid visiting the set because he was terminally ill. > **[Make-A-Wish Recipient Came Up With The Funniest Line In The 'Thor: Ragnarok'...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/thor-teaser-trailer-make-a-wish_n_598338c4e4b00f0084ae5f9f/amp)** > > He left his mark on the movie in a hilarious way. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/79 "2022-04-20T01:39:28Z")
“Who’s asking? Well, I know you’re asking, but is anyone else asking?” ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/80 "2022-04-20T02:09:56Z")
Calling slaves “prisoners with jobs” is such a great line. And the way it genuinely appeases Jeff Goldblum is so great. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008.md?page=5)