# Thor: Love and Thunder **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies, disney-hulu\ **Created:** [April 18, 2022, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008 "2022-04-18T19:41:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Jack\_Burden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/958977/32.png) [@Jack\_Burden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Burden)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/101 "2022-04-20T19:04:35Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > He hasn’t been, but there’s a scene in the trailer for the new Thor movie featuring [someone who looks a heck of a lot like Zeus.](https://static2.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/Zeus-rules-over-Olympus-in-Thor-Love-And-Thunder..jpeg?q=50&fit=crop&w=960&h=500&dpr=1.5) I’m thinking that Zeus being included here is part of the set-up for Christian Bale’s Gorr the God Butcher. As the film’s antagonist, he’s gonna need some gods to butcher. That being said, I’m not particularly familiar with Gorr. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/102 "2022-04-20T19:11:33Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Kinda surprised neither company tried more with Peter Pan, actually. Probably to do with copyright status. Peter Pan wasn’t in the public domain, at least in the US, until fairly recently. Maybe the 90s? Or the 00s? And even then, it was like Sherlock Holmes (another case that showed up in Marvel Comics in 2007 - just as the early stories hit the public domain) where the copyright holders to the original work were very protective of the IP. Likewise Pecos Bill, who didn’t hit the public domain until maybe the 90s. But at least in that case, there’s not really anybody who’s going to create much of a fuss if the character is used, especially as a background character. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/103 "2022-04-20T19:24:35Z")
I had no idea Pecos Bill was ever under copyright. I thought he was pure folklore, with no one attributable author. Looking it up, it appears that was intentional - the original author claimed they were stories cowboys told each other on the trail, but anthropologists say there’s no evidence of them existing before they were published. I wonder how that would affect the copyright? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/104 "2022-04-20T19:26:24Z")
> [@Jack\_Burden](#): > > I’m thinking that Zeus being included here is part of the set-up for Christian Bale’s Gorr the God Butcher. I’d forgotten he’s the villain in this one. Bad news for my man Herc, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2022, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/105 "2022-04-21T10:22:29Z")
DC does have a Hercules if you didn’t know. He’s a Wonder Woman foe., an arrogant creep and responsible for assaulting her mom way back when. This led to Marvel’s Herc getting a Wondy punch when they met during a crossover and she asked his name. Marvel’s Herc did sleep with their Hippolyta but it was consensual. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2022, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/106 "2022-04-21T10:47:15Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > She’s got that metal hammer, should call her Iron-Woman. So: she’s Fe-male? > [@Jack\_Burden](#): > > Welcome to Mjolnir 3000 activation service. Please select your ringtone from the following options: > > 1. Thunderstruck - AC/DC > 2. The Thunder Rolls - Garth Brooks > 3. Greased Lightnin’ - Grease Soundtrack > 4. Maxwell’s Silver Hammer - The Beatles > 5. If I Had a Hammer - Pete Seeger > 6. Thunder Road - Bruce Springsteen > 7. Hammer to Fall - Queen > 8. Lightning Crashes - Live > 9. U Can’t Touch this - MC Hammer > 10. Thunder on the Mountain - Bob Dylan [Thor’s already picked one of those](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1231.html). > [@kenobi\_65](#): > > In the books, Hercules is a semi-regular member of the Avengers. He’s usually even hammier, and even more of a “ladies’ man,” than Thor is. And rarely wears a shirt. > [@Miller](#): > > Kinda surprised neither company tried more with Peter Pan, [Under pretty much perpetual copyright in the UK](https://www.gosh.org/about-us/peter-pan/copyright/), by special rule of Parliament, and “it’s complicated” for the rest of the world. They’d have to adapt the novel rather than any plays or films at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2022, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/107 "2022-04-21T11:55:51Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > And rarely wears a shirt. If I were that ripped I might not either. ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2022, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/108 "2022-04-21T22:28:32Z")
I’m one of those that didn’t care for how silly Ragnarok got, especially with the body count, but I think I’ll like Hippy Thor. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/109 "2022-05-24T14:23:37Z")
New trailer is up. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Go8nTmfrQd8/maxresdefault.jpg "Marvel Studios' Thor: Love and Thunder | Official Trailer") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go8nTmfrQd8) “Should we help him?” “Eventually. Grape?” ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/110 "2022-05-24T14:45:34Z")
Unlike the prior one this gives some sense of there being an actual story of some sort. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/111 "2022-05-24T14:59:22Z")
I saw the trailer before the Doctor Strange movie and am excited for this one. It looks like it’s going to be a lot of fun. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/112 "2022-05-24T15:08:15Z")
I was already sold, now I’m excited. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/113 "2022-05-24T15:49:03Z")
I wonder if they’re going to make Bale’s character a sympathetic antagonist. I hope so. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/114 "2022-05-24T15:50:57Z")
Me too, otherwise he’s just another “Grrr, I am mad about something and that is why I am killing a lot of people and not listening to any reasons why I shouldn’t I SAID I’M NOT LISTENING LA LA LA LA I CAN’T HEAR YOU” villain, and those are boring. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/115 "2022-05-24T15:51:16Z")
I think Thor 3 is the best one and one of the best Marvel movies. I’m not that pumped for this from the trailers, but mainly because I think trailers are not an easy medium to convey Taika Waititi’s movies. I can only imagine a What We Do In The Shadows\* trailer that makes it look just goofy instead of as hilarious as it is. \*Jemaine Clement will be upset if I don’t point out he co-directed that movie, by the way. It wasn’t Waititi’s alone. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/116 "2022-05-24T18:44:27Z")
it does look fun. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/117 "2022-05-24T20:23:25Z")
Looks pretty enjoyable and I am sure I will see it, even if only when it comes to streaming. But I will say that piles of women fainting after seeing Thor’s naked body is…not as funny as they think it is. 🤨 I hope the movie aspires to better jokes than that. If not, _yawn._ ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/118 "2022-05-24T20:42:49Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > But I will say that piles of women fainting after seeing Thor’s naked body is…not as funny as they think it is. It wasn’t just women. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/119 "2022-05-24T20:50:53Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > It wasn’t just women. Upon review, you are correct. The initial close-up shows four women, but the wider shot includes two men on the ends of the group. Still not that funny, but less misogynist. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/120 "2022-05-24T23:09:56Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > Still not that funny I’d like to hope that there’s some context to it (the fainters being the muses and prone to dramatic acts or something) but I might be applying too much optimism to a basic sight gag. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008.md?page=7)