# Thor: Love and Thunder **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies, disney-hulu\ **Created:** [April 18, 2022, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008 "2022-04-18T19:41:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/121 "2022-05-25T07:20:37Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > The initial close-up shows four women, …and only two of the women faint. Them, two men, and one faceless but probably male guard. It was fairly equal-opportunity. These are _Greek_ gods, after all. > [@Jophiel](#): > > I’d like to hope that there’s some context to it The obvious context I see is that Thor is so _fit_ even other gods swoon at the sight of his naked body. It’s not _high_ humour, but it’s not exactly opaque, and pretty much on-brand for this director. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/122 "2022-05-25T09:15:15Z")
If they ever bring in Hercules, that dude has a _lot_ of work ahead to match Hemsworth’s muscles. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/123 "2022-05-25T10:38:13Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I think Thor 3 is the best one and one of the best Marvel movies. I’m not that pumped for this from the trailers, but mainly because I think trailers are not an easy medium to convey Taika Waititi’s movies. The [“Yeeesss! We know each other; he’s a friend from work!” trailer](https://youtu.be/c82fX0tivQ8) for _Thor: Ragnarok_ is one of the best trailers I’ve ever seen. And the trailers for [_Jojo Rabbit_](https://youtu.be/qmwU-nTyyoE), while not fully capturing the pathos and understated ominousness of the film did a pretty good job of representing the tone of the humor. (“it’s definitely not a good time to be a Nazi.”). I’m a little underwhelmed by this trailer but bear in mind that trailers are created by the marketing team and the director often has little control over them. It is not unusual for a trailer to contain scenes that are not actually in the film and totally misrepresent the tone of the movie. This one does seem like kind of a cheap laugh you’d expect from more of a Farley Brothers movie but it may just be that the film is still in production process and they don’t have a lot of material to work with to build a trailer, and that this scene may not even be in the actual film. Taika Waititi has an essentially spotless record as a director (of everything I’ve seen at least, including the episode he directed for _The Mandalorian_ which I had otherwise grown tired of because Jon Favreau’s _Star Wars: Edge of the Empire_ TTRPG game is surprisingly cliched and uninventive) so I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/124 "2022-05-25T11:42:57Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > The obvious context I see is that Thor is so _fit_ even other gods swoon at the sight of his naked body. Well, yes, but I meant something more specific to this group of fainters. Thor’s companions, for example, are less affected. But the more likely reasoning is because they have to be awake to make quips. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/125 "2022-05-25T12:05:35Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Thor’s companions, for example, are less affected. Well, Jane has already seen it, and Valkyrie isn’t interested. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/126 "2022-05-25T12:21:51Z")
That explanation actually makes it even less funny. ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/127 "2022-05-25T12:25:00Z")
Count me as another vote for this being a failed gag. Imagine for a moment if they had done the same gag with Jane? Yeah, not so much. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/128 "2022-05-25T13:04:20Z")
> [@Icarus](#): > > Imagine for a moment if they had done the same gag with Jane? Yeah, not so much. I think it would work better with, say, an Aphrodite character than with Jane. But that’s why I felt Valkyrie & Jane being unaffected made it less funny. Thor’s wiener being divinely and universally wonderful might be a little amusing versus just “A hot man! _swoon_” I mean, hey, that’d be a great crime-fighting power! Nuclear terrorists? Invading aliens? Giant war robots? Show 'em your dong! Job done! ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/129 "2022-05-25T13:19:17Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > …and only two of the women faint. I don’t know what clip you’re watching, but in the one linked above there are four gorgeous women in the close-up - two on either side of the old dude who magics Thor’s clothes off. Every single one of those four women faints, plus some men on the edges of the group as you earlier (correctly) noted. And whether it’s on brand for the director or not says nothing about whether it’s funny or interesting. Personally, I think it is cliche and too reminiscent of the kind of low humor in, say, _Porky’s_ or _Police Academy_, but YMMV. I think a well-acted raised eyebrow or two, for example, would have been funnier. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/130 "2022-05-25T13:29:26Z")
You’re right, looks like I blinked and the two other women also fainted. Doesn’t change my point, though. Also, _really_ don’t see the relevance of their degree of attractiveness, but whatever. > [@ShadowFacts](#): > > And whether it’s on brand for the director or not says nothing about whether it’s funny or interesting. Didn’t say it did. > [@ShadowFacts](#): > > too reminiscent of the kind of low humor in, say, _Porky’s_ or _Police Academy_ , but YMMV. Have you _seen_ _What We Do In The Shadows_? And I’d say it’s more the humour in _History of The World Part I_ or _Monty Python_, myself. > [@ShadowFacts](#): > > YMMV MMV ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/131 "2022-05-25T13:57:23Z")
Let’s just say that the trailer is being related to the kids by Korg, who may be an unreliable narrator. He would naturally try to cast his friend “in the best light.” ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/132 "2022-05-25T14:00:28Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > And whether it’s on brand for the director or not Well the director DID direct the scene, so… ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/133 "2022-05-25T14:06:45Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Well the director DID direct the scene, so… Yes, and… ? I have no idea what point you are trying to make here, sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/134 "2022-05-25T16:26:03Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > Yes, and… ? I have no idea what point you are trying to make here, sorry. Someone hired the actors, got the costumes, wrote, staged and shot the scene and did special effects. If not under control of the director, then who? So of course it is within his brand, or he wouldn’t have filmed it at all. Even if he never intended to use it in the film, it’s out there, and someone added it to the trailer. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/135 "2022-05-25T18:23:12Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > I don’t know what clip you’re watching, but in the one linked above there are four gorgeous women in the close-up - two on either side of the old dude who magics Thor’s clothes off. Every single one of those four women faints, plus some men on the edges of the group as you earlier (correctly) noted. I believe you missed the old guy playing the harp in the background, who fainted as well. And call me juvenile, but I thought it was pretty funny. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/136 "2022-05-25T18:34:27Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > the old dude who magics Thor’s clothes off It’s hard to recognize him with the big beard, long hair, and makeup, but that’s Russell Crowe, playing Zeus, king of the Olympians (and analogous to Anthony Hopkins as Odin for the Asgardians). ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/137 "2022-05-25T18:55:07Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > And call me juvenile, but I thought it was pretty funny. You’re juvenile. I thought it was pretty funny too. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/138 "2022-05-25T19:16:39Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Zeus, king of the Olympians A fellow lightning guy! Can’t wait for the inevitable lightning-off. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/139 "2022-05-25T19:22:51Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > A fellow lightning guy! I’m wondering if, once Zeus discovers who Thor is, he will ask Thor, “Aren’t you the God of Hammers?” 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008/140 "2022-05-25T21:55:52Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Let’s just say that the trailer is being related to the kids by Korg, who may be an unreliable narrator. He would naturally try to cast his friend “in the best light.” Is this where I point out that Korg is, in fact, the director? Being acted by Taika Waititi [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-love-and-thunder/963008.md?page=8)