# Thor (open spoilers)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 4, 2011, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-open-spoilers/580672 "2011-05-04T08:51:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![The\_Man\_In\_Black](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@The\_Man\_In\_Black](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Man_In_Black)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-open-spoilers/580672/121 "2011-05-17T15:14:48Z")

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> [@Bakhesh](#):
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> Not sure if Odin approves of killing. When Thor ‘killed’ Loki\* , Odin banished him from Asgard and Midgard (no one knew where he was). Thor was fairly justified, in that Loki had goaded him by attempting to kill a child.
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> This may only apply to Asgardians killing other Asgardians though
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> (\* Loki’s plan hinged on getting Thor to kill him. In fact, Loki’s spirit took over Odin’s body)

But Odin raised Loki as his son. I could easily see a man who feels killing in a time of war is ok having a problem with killing his son.

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**Author:** ![Bakhesh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Bakhesh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bakhesh)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-open-spoilers/580672/122 "2011-05-17T15:20:20Z")

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> [@The\_Man\_In\_Black](#):
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> But Odin raised Loki as his son. I could easily see a man who feels killing in a time of war is ok having a problem with killing his son.

Very true, but I think at the time it was one of Odins laws that applied to all asgardians. IIRC, he didn’t want to exile Thor because understood why Thor had done it, and didn’t want to lose his other son too, but said something along the lines of “Its the law, so it must be applied, even when its my own son”

Need to go home and check my comic books.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-open-spoilers/580672/123 "2011-05-17T15:38:59Z")

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I found a site with some Easter Eggs for the movie. I still haven’t seen it yet, but hopefully I can see it this weekend or early next week.

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**Author:** ![tim314](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim314/32/3468_2.png) [@tim314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim314)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-open-spoilers/580672/124 "2011-06-17T13:34:33Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Seeing as, in the original myths, Loki is supposed to eventually redeem himself and save Asgard during Ragnarok, I thought that was a nice touch.

In the version of the myths I know, Loki _causes_ Ragnarok (or at least sets it in motion with Baldur’s death), and he and Heimdall kill each other during the final battle.

> [@Smapti](#):
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> Loki _is_ a frost giant and adopted son of Odin in the original mythology

I was going to say they were blood-brothers, but it sounds like maybe both were true – at least from the translations I found here:

> **[Loki and Odin: blood-brothers?](https://burningblood.livejournal.com/10342.html)**
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> The concept of Odin and Loki being blood brothers usually gets referred back to two kennings for Loki given in the Skáldskaparmál ("bróður Býleists ok Helblinda" with the latter demonstrated and the former theorised to be bynames of the Old Man),...

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2011, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-open-spoilers/580672/125 "2011-07-13T07:14:15Z")

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> [@Reloy3](#):
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> Who’s left?  
> Ant-man  
> Wasp  
> Scarlet Witch
> 
> I wonder if they will be upcoming.

Apparently there was an Ant Man reference in Thor but it was very indirect.

It’s in the scene where Erik is warning Jane about SHIELD. He tells her a story about a scientist he knew who was working on Gamma radiation and then disappeared. This obviously is a reference to Bruce Banner who became the Hulk.

But then he goes on to say he knows a scientist who works with SHIELD and he’ll call him. This second scientist is supposedly Henry Pym. Apparently he was named in earlier drafts of the script. And it would fit in with current Marvel (Ultimate) continuity where Pym was brought in by SHIELD to investigate Banner’s work.

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-open-spoilers/580672/126 "2011-07-15T17:02:36Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Apparently there was an Ant Man reference in Thor but it was very indirect.
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> It’s in the scene where Erik is warning Jane about SHIELD. He tells her a story about a scientist he knew who was working on Gamma radiation and then disappeared. This obviously is a reference to Bruce Banner who became the Hulk.
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> But then he goes on to say he knows a scientist who works with SHIELD and he’ll call him. This second scientist is supposedly Henry Pym. Apparently he was named in earlier drafts of the script. And it would fit in with current Marvel (Ultimate) continuity where Pym was brought in by SHIELD to investigate Banner’s work.

I think there was also a referernce to Bill Foster (former Black Goliath/Goliath/Giantman) I think in that same scene. I forget what the exact line was but–something referencing the “Foster effect”

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-open-spoilers/580672/127 "2011-07-15T20:32:44Z")

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> [@Push\_You\_Down](#):
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> I think there was also a referernce to Bill Foster (former Black Goliath/Goliath/Giantman) I think in that same scene. I forget what the exact line was but–something referencing the “Foster effect”

The reference to the “Foster effect” or “Foster Theory” or “Foster Research” (I don’t remember what the exact wording was) . . .  
I remember this not from the scene in which Erik is telling Jane about SHIELD but, rather, from the post credits scene where Erik meets Nick Fury.

Fury tells Erik that the reason they’re contacting him is because of his work on the Foster Whatever. I assumed this was just a reference to the work he was doing in New Mexico with _Jane_ Foster- as we’ve seen throughout the film.

Any speculation about a connection between Jane and Bill Foster?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-open-spoilers/580672/128 "2011-07-15T23:06:42Z")

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Interesting to note how international the cast was. There was an Australian, an Israeli, a Swede, four Britons, five Americans, a Japanese, and a Canadian.

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-open-spoilers/580672/129 "2011-07-15T23:40:15Z")

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> [@bienville](#):
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> The reference to the “Foster effect” or “Foster Theory” or “Foster Research” (I don’t remember what the exact wording was) . . .  
> I remember this not from the scene in which Erik is telling Jane about SHIELD but, rather, from the post credits scene where Erik meets Nick Fury.
> 
> Fury tells Erik that the reason they’re contacting him is because of his work on the Foster Whatever. I assumed this was just a reference to the work he was doing in New Mexico with _Jane_ Foster- as we’ve seen throughout the film.
> 
> Any speculation about a connection between Jane and Bill Foster?

…was it really in that scene? I could have sworn it was earlier. You are most likely right to it being a reference to Jane.

Damn.. I got really excited by that thinking it was a nice little nuggest for fans.

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-open-spoilers/580672/130 "2011-07-16T00:06:40Z")

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> [@bienville](#):
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> P.S. I enjoyed the movie, but I didn’t _LOVE_ it. However, I will want to re-watch it before the Captain America movie comes out. During the week leading up to _Thor_ I rewatched _Iron Man_, _Iron Man 2_, and _The Incredible Hulk_ (in order of continuity, not order of release). I would like to do the same before _Captain America_ but don’t know if I want to pay full price for _Thor_ again.
> 
> What do Dopers think the chances are that _Thor_ will be in discount theaters by the time _Captain America_ comes out???

P.S. In my area, the Discount Theaters picked up Thor just last week- a good two weeks ahead of the upcoming release of Captain America. Hooray! I do indeed get the opportunity to “marathon” all the other films leading up to Captain America!

> [@Push\_You\_Down](#):
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> …was it really in that scene? I could have sworn it was earlier. You are most likely right to it being a reference to Jane.
> 
> Damn.. I got really excited by that thinking it was a nice little nuggest for fans.

Just watched it last night at the discount theater. I’m nearly certain that the reference we’re talking about did come in the post credits Nick Fury scene.

I’ll probably watch it again before Captain America next week. I’ll double check and report back.

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-open-spoilers/580672/131 "2011-07-18T18:21:14Z")

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> [@Push\_You\_Down](#):
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> …was it really in that scene? I could have sworn it was earlier. You are most likely right to it being a reference to Jane.
> 
> Damn.. I got really excited by that thinking it was a nice little nuggest for fans.

> [@bienville](#):
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> I’ll double check and report back.

. . . and the double checking has been done:  
Yes. It is in the post credits scene. Nick Fury: “You have impressed a lot of people a lot smarter than me.” (paraphrased)  
Erik Selvig “I have so much to work with- the Foster Theory, a gateway to another world- it’s all unprecedented . . . isn’t it?” (also paraphrased, but it was definitely “Foster _Theory_”)

Yeah, he’s talking about his work with Jane.

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**Author:** ![burres48](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/57b2e6/32.png) [@burres48](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burres48)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-open-spoilers/580672/132 "2011-08-27T00:50:22Z")

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