# Thor: Ragnarok trailer

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 10, 2017, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172 "2017-04-10T14:07:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/21 "2017-04-11T00:11:45Z")

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> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
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> I hope they haven’t decided that _Thor_ needs to go the way of _Guardians of the Galaxy_, with all sorts of silliness, instead of gritty story lines highlighting the interaction of Asgard with the other worlds around it, including our own. ☹

Superheroes, especially on the screen, are inherently a bit silly. Thor and Asgard are particularly silly. I don’t think a serious Thor movie would work.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/22 "2017-04-11T00:37:50Z")

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**Author:** ![TYphoonSignal8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@TYphoonSignal8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TYphoonSignal8)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/23 "2017-04-11T02:01:57Z")

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> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
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> I hope they haven’t decided that _Thor_ needs to go the way of _Guardians of the Galaxy_, with all sorts of silliness, instead of gritty story lines highlighting the interaction of Asgard with the other worlds around it, including our own. ☹

The director is a quirky New Zealander named Taka Waititi. He’s a comedian, and did the comedy _Hunt for the Wilder People_, and the very, very funny Team Thor shorts. Some of that humour has spilled over into the movie. I assume that includes the 80s graphics.

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**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/24 "2017-04-11T02:07:17Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Superheroes, especially on the screen, are inherently a bit silly. Thor and Asgard are particularly silly. I don’t think a serious Thor movie would work.

I think the Marvel movies have realized this and have embraced the action/comedy style for superhero movies. If you go the serious route you run into the problems the DC movies have.

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**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/25 "2017-04-11T02:49:35Z")

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This looks like pure joy on celluloid, plus I love that they have gone for a Kirby look with bright colours and astounding hats.

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**Author:** ![TheInimitableMaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@TheInimitableMaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheInimitableMaven)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/26 "2017-04-11T05:03:28Z")

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> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
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> I hope they haven’t decided that _Thor_ needs to go the way of _Guardians of the Galaxy_, with all sorts of silliness, instead of gritty story lines highlighting the interaction of Asgard with the other worlds around it, including our own. ☹

It’s nice to not be alone…don’t get me wrong, I really like the Guardians\*, but on their own with their own brand of humor and style. Yes, I know I am in a vast minority, but I didn’t have a problem at all with the styling of the first two Thor movies. I feel like _The Dark World_ would have done at least a little, probably not a lot, but a little better if Kenneth Branagh had returned to the director’s helm.

I haven’t cared for _What We Do In The Shadows_ in what I’ve seen of it and admittingly groaned again for the fourth time when I read of Mr. Waititi’s taking on the director’s helm for _Thor: Ragnarok_. My first time being the reveal of Hulk being in the film too and making it more of an ‘Avengers instead of just Thor’ flick and/or buddy comedy, the second being the IMO silly shorts/trailers before this one, and the third being when it became incredibly apparent that Enchantress is never going to be a featured villain(ess) in one of these movies (something I had been waiting for since the first film). This trailer, combined with everybody talking (at least on YouTube) about the use of “Immigrant Song” more than anything else in the movie (save maybe, MAYBE Cate Blanchett and Jeff Goldblum) has not only made me feel not at all guilty of doing all of that groaning, but I also feel like if it weren’t for the use of that tune and the ‘Guardians’ vibe everyone says it induces, the initial reception would be right there with the other two films (and in both’s cases, especially the first one (again, I wish Branagh had directed _The Dark World_), such a reception was very undeserved).

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  - _Guardians Of The Galaxy_ is easily among my top favorite Marvel movies, along with _Doctor Strange_ (my absolute top fave if I had to choose…FREAKIN’ LOVED IT more than the others), _Ant-Man_, _Captain America: The Winter Soldier_, and yes, _Thor_…both the first film and _The Dark World_. But especially the first film with its having more of a Shakespearian feel during its Asgard scenes…one more time, with feeling, Branagh so should have been _The Dark World_’s director.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/27 "2017-04-11T06:12:17Z")

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> [@TheInimitableMaven](#):
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> it became incredibly apparent that Enchantress is never going to be a featured villain(ess) in one of these movies (something I had been waiting for since the first film).

They used her sister in AoS, so it’s still possible.

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> This trailer, combined with everybody talking (at least on YouTube) about the use of “Immigrant Song” more than anything else in the movie (save maybe, MAYBE Cate Blanchett and Jeff Goldblum)

I’ve seen lots of people talking about (and giffing) the"Yes" and “He’s a friend from work” bits, celebrating the helmet and Loki tossing knives.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/28 "2017-04-11T07:08:33Z")

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Three Marvel movies come out this year - _Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2_, out in a couple of weeks; _Spider-Man Homecoming_, out July, and _Thor Ragnarok_, in November. It’s Marvelpalooza.

DC also have _Wonder Woman_ and _Justice League_, but I don’t care about those.

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**Author:** ![DarkFire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/34f0e0/32.png) [@DarkFire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DarkFire)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/29 "2017-04-11T07:28:15Z")

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Definitely got a Guardians vibe from this, which works for now.  
And using Immigrant Song was a fun choice.

But I do expect some more grit in the movie itself. It’s only a trailer after all, not revealing much of the actual plot.  
Jeff Goldblum’s look was meh, but then again it was totally in line with Del Toro’s Collector. And those are related (same race at least) so I guess it works.  
But seeing Hela almost exactly like she looks in the comics was cool.  
And wtf–did Mjolnir get destroyed? I guess the rumors of him wielding an axe were true then.  
Interesting…

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/30 "2017-04-11T12:55:21Z")

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I loved the trailer - its a fun trailer - which is the current norm for them… We are stoked to see this film.

Of course, with the way Marvel is hitting it out of the park with them, they could put out a bad trailer and we would still see it. Case in point - Logan - the trailer(s) never once made me want to see the movie as they made no sense to me - but the movie ended up being very good despite the trailers.

GotG set the new bar for trailers and all are trying to copy it. Suicide Squad did great trailers and a not so great movie.

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**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/31 "2017-04-11T17:23:27Z")

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I’m not a big Thor fan, I’d actually prefer a World War Hulk movie to this.

The trailer looks fun, though, and I almost always like Cate Blanchett.

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/32 "2017-04-11T17:29:39Z")

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Is this story one that they did in the comic books?

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**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/33 "2017-04-11T17:37:05Z")

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I’m a big Thor fan and I never thought one Thor movie would be made much less three.

Looks like a lot of fun and Hela looks great.

Anyway that Goldblum’s character is the Grandmaster or has he already appear in the Marvel movies?

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/34 "2017-04-11T17:47:50Z")

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> [@TYphoonSignal8](#):
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> The director is a quirky New Zealander named Taka Waititi. He’s a comedian, and did the comedy _Hunt for the Wilder People_, and the very, very funny Team Thor shorts. Some of that humour has spilled over into the movie. I assume that includes the 80s graphics.

Also the incredibly funny “What we do in the shadows”. Which he also stars in.

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**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/35 "2017-04-11T20:08:35Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> Also the incredibly funny “What we do in the shadows”. Which he also stars in.

Yeah, the “He’s a friend from work” line has so of much a WWDitS ring to it.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/36 "2017-04-11T20:47:30Z")

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And I’ve got to say, Hemsworth totally nails it. Here he is enslaved and forced to fight in an arena… and he’s happy, because fighting is fun, and he’s even happier because he’s going to get to have fun with a friend. They could so easily have gone grimdark with that… and I’m glad they didn’t.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/37 "2017-04-11T20:48:01Z")

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> [@Lochdale](#):
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> Anyway that Goldblum’s character is the Grandmaster or has he already appear in the Marvel movies?

Goldblum is debuting as the Grandmaster. Benicio del Toro has already appeared as the Collector.

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/38 "2017-04-11T21:36:56Z")

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> [@mlees](#):
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> Is this story one that they did in the comic books?

Kind of sort of…

It look like it is taking a lot from a lot of different stories.  
Like Planet Hulk where Hulk becomes a gladiator on an alien world.  
A lot of Walter Simonson’s run on Thor. Skurge the Executioner dual-wielding M-16s is straight from one of the best moments in that run.

I don’t know if this is true–but I _think_ it might take some elements of the post Civil War-era comics with Thor where the Asgradians are kind of scattered and amnesiac.

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**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/39 "2017-04-11T21:37:52Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> And I’ve got to say, Hemsworth totally nails it. Here he is enslaved and forced to fight in an arena… and he’s happy, because fighting is fun, and he’s even happier because he’s going to get to have fun with a friend. They could so easily have gone grimdark with that… and I’m glad they didn’t.

His reaction is the same as when in the first _Thor_ he’s stripped of his powers, banished to Earth and at his lowest ebb, and then The Warriors Three show up and his response is just unbridled joy, “Hey, my mates are here!”. Thor is not a complicated guy, and Hemsworth just sells that part of his character.

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**Author:** ![TYphoonSignal8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@TYphoonSignal8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TYphoonSignal8)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2017, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/40 "2017-04-12T00:56:19Z")

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**DigitalC** -

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> Also the incredibly funny “What we do in the shadows”. Which he also stars in.

I didn’t realise he directed that film. Which, indeed, was outstanding.

> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Goldblum is debuting as the Grandmaster. Benicio del Toro has already appeared as the Collector.

Ah, I had assumed that Goldblum was taking over from del Toro in the role of the Collector.

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