# Thor: Ragnarok trailer

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 10, 2017, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172 "2017-04-10T14:07:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/41 "2017-04-26T04:40:07Z")

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> [@Dangerosa](#):
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> They do, they just haven’t been successful with standalone Hulk movies and have decided he works better as a guest star.

How many “standalone” movies have we gotten since IM3? _Winter Soldier_ had Romanov, _Civil War_ was basically Avenger 2.5. _Dark World_, maybe

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/42 "2017-04-26T06:13:24Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> How many “standalone” movies have we gotten since IM3? _Winter Soldier_ had Romanov, _Civil War_ was basically Avenger 2.5. _Dark World_, maybe

Plus, _Ant-Man_ and _Doctor Strange_.

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/43 "2017-04-26T12:31:52Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Plus, _Ant-Man_ and _Doctor Strange_.

Ant-Man had a plot-significant Falcon cameo.

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/44 "2017-04-26T12:39:59Z")

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There still haven’t been any other movies headlining Hulk, with or without cameos from others.

Though Civil War really should have been headlined as an Avengers movie, not as a Captain America.

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/45 "2017-04-26T13:45:31Z")

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Here’s a funny teaser about [Thor on his off time.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY9XfmbXOZQ)

StG

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/46 "2017-04-26T14:49:06Z")

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> [@DarkFire](#):
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> Jeff Goldblum’s look was meh, but then again it was totally in line with Del Toro’s Collector. And those are related (same race at least) so I guess it works.

Not to be overly pedantic, but ‘The Elders of the Universe’ (Collecter, Grandmaster, et al) are not the same race, but each of them are the sole survivor of various now extinct races. In the original comics anyways, who knows in the MCU.

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/47 "2017-04-26T15:50:28Z")

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> [@GreedySmurf](#):
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> Not to be overly pedantic, but ‘The Elders of the Universe’ (Collecter, Grandmaster, et al) are not the same race, but each of them are the sole survivor of various now extinct races. In the original comics anyways, who knows in the MCU.

It’s already been announced, I believe, that in the MCU the Collector and the Grandmaster are brothers.

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/48 "2017-04-26T15:51:09Z")

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> Ant-Man had a plot-significant Falcon cameo.

Not really. The entire “We need to heist the McGuffin device from an old Stark warehouse to do…something” was basically an exercise of introducing Scott Lang to another Avenger so that there would be a reason he is called upon in _Civil War_.

The trailer to _Thor: Ragnarok_ is so entertaining, with enough narrative to give an idea of the story without giving away too many plot points, a great backing track, and the humor of Thor recognizing Hulk, along with the clearly 'Eighties high fantasy inspired titles and color scheme, that I kind of don’t care if the film actually lives up to it (although I think it will). I actually enjoyed the first _Thor_ film (the second not so much) and rank it in the upper tier of MCU films, and Chris Hemsworth’s obtuse-but-not-stupid characterization is pitch perfect for the character. “You people are so petty…and tiny.”

Stranger

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/49 "2017-04-26T16:30:10Z")

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Wasn’t that Thor/Daryl clip the same as the one that they ran back during Civil War? Or at least, mostly the same. It’s not a teaser for Ragnarok.

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/50 "2017-04-26T16:52:25Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Wasn’t that Thor/Daryl clip the same as the one that they ran back during Civil War? Or at least, mostly the same. It’s not a teaser for Ragnarok.

Yeah, they just mashed together [the original](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPNBKT6JLSU) and the [new one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3TOw6r7ghc). Out of order at that.  
Though I do love the captions “Thor Odinson” and “Darryl Jacobson”.

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/51 "2017-04-26T17:14:21Z")

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I really enjoyed the trailer. I forgot that Ragnarok was rescheduled to this year and was expecting it to hit in 2018, so this is a pleasant surprise. Thor was fine but not my thing, and Dark World was meh with an excellent ending fight scene, but perhaps I will find Ragnarok more appealing.

> [@Chronos](#):
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> And I’ve got to say, Hemsworth totally nails it. Here he is enslaved and forced to fight in an arena… and he’s happy, because fighting is fun, and he’s even happier because he’s going to get to have fun with a friend. They could so easily have gone grimdark with that… and I’m glad they didn’t.

> [@Penfeather](#):
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> His reaction is the same as when in the first _Thor_ he’s stripped of his powers, banished to Earth and at his lowest ebb, and then The Warriors Three show up and his response is just unbridled joy, “Hey, my mates are here!”. Thor is not a complicated guy, and Hemsworth just sells that part of his character.

I saw it more as Thor being excited because he assumed that he and the Hulk would team up and fight their way out. Right after “he’s a friend from work”, Thor appears to begrudgingly take up the fight once it’s clear that the Hulk is going to attack him.

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/52 "2017-04-26T18:07:54Z")

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I dunno, if that’s what he was planning, then I don’t think he would have announced to the whole audience that they knew each other. Thor isn’t _that_ unsubtle that he’d warn his enemies of an impending team-up-and-attack.

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/53 "2017-04-26T18:12:41Z")

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Or it could be a trailer-only gag that isn’t actually in the film, like Nebula getting hit by a blast and Drax relieved that it wasn’t him. I don’t think that’s the case here, but Marvel has done it before.

Stranger

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/54 "2017-04-26T18:54:18Z")

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I don’t think it’s either “Yay, I get to fight the Hulk!” or “The rest of you are so screwed!” Thor is uncomplicated enough that just seeing his green buddy after a long absence is enough to get him excited, no matter what the other circumstances are. Like Threepio being so happy to see Artoo in the Jawa sandcrawler.

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/55 "2017-04-26T20:55:22Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> I dunno, if that’s what he was planning, then I don’t think he would have announced to the whole audience that they knew each other. Thor isn’t _that_ unsubtle that he’d warn his enemies of an impending team-up-and-attack.

He’s not announcing it to the whole audience; he’s telling Loki, who is sitting with Grandmaster and Valkyrie looking bemused by his reaction.

Presumably, they’re in the midst of a Loki scheme where Thor has to fight the Grandmaster’s champion for… reasons.

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/56 "2017-04-26T20:57:44Z")

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> [@Lightray](#):
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> He’s not announcing it to the whole audience; he’s telling Loki, who is sitting with Grandmaster and Valkyrie looking bemused by his reaction.
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> Presumably, they’re in the midst of a Loki scheme where Thor has to fight the Grandmaster’s champion for… reasons.

Why would he be telling Loki? Loki already knows the Hulk; the big green guy was the lynchpin of his whole “get captured on purpose” plan in The Avengers.

Though I didn’t realize that Loki was in that scene, so nice catch!

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/57 "2017-07-23T03:21:08Z")

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New trailer. I like it! The Magic Sword soundtrack was a nice touch.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ue80QwXMRHg/maxresdefault.jpg ""Thor: Ragnarok" Official Trailer") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue80QwXMRHg)

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/58 "2017-07-23T03:34:11Z")

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> I don’t think it’s either “Yay, I get to fight the Hulk!” or “The rest of you are so screwed!” Thor is uncomplicated enough that just seeing his green buddy after a long absence is enough to get him excited, no matter what the other circumstances are. Like Threepio being so happy to see Artoo in the Jawa sandcrawler.

Exactly. People are reading way too much into this. He thought he was going to have this mighty battle…sees his friend and is elated that it isn’t going to h…oh you have got to be kidding…

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/59 "2017-07-23T04:06:20Z")

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> [@oft\_wears\_hats](#):
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> New trailer. I like it! The Magic Sword soundtrack was a nice touch.
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> [https://youtu.be/ue80QwXMRHg](https://youtu.be/ue80QwXMRHg)

this just keeps getting better.

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/60 "2017-07-23T06:40:07Z")

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Ugh. The new trailer shows that they’ve apparently done what I feared: turned Thor into comic relief. ☹

I may not go see it in the theaters.

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