# Thor: Ragnarok trailer

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 10, 2017, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172 "2017-04-10T14:07:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/61 "2017-07-23T09:49:12Z")

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> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
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> Ugh. The new trailer shows that they’ve apparently done what I feared: turned Thor into comic relief. ☹
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> I may not go see it in the theaters.

…its a Taika Waititi movie. There were always going to be laughs. But his movies aren’t just about the jokes. I really wouldn’t underestimate him and what this movie will be about. There are entire bits of film that haven’t made the trailers, for example Odin on earth. I mean: how can you not [trust this guy](https://twitter.com/TaikaWaititi/status/888744724076646400)?

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**Author:** ![TYphoonSignal8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@TYphoonSignal8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TYphoonSignal8)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/62 "2017-07-25T01:20:11Z")

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Hulk has a chat. HA!

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/63 "2017-07-25T02:25:42Z")

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Dunno, there’s some epic war stuff and some buddy cop stuff and some getting the team together stuff…overall, it seems suspiciously like they’ve ended up doing what they do with most of the superhero movies and try to shovel too much story into a 2 hour time slot, so that ends up being just a set of haphazardly arranged scenes that allude to some underlying storyline that you’d only ever really get if they turned it into a 6 hour movie.

The first Thor movie was one of the better Marvel movies simply because they kept it simple. Boy loses hammer. Boy gets hammer back.

Granted, you can fit more than that in two hours. But that’s closer to the right level of content than most of these movies are seeing. (Though, also granted, most everyone else seems to prefer the story-free color-fests that they’re being presented with.)

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/64 "2017-07-25T02:29:36Z")

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I have to say, until now, I’ve found the Thor films to be the weakest of the MCU. But I kind of like how they went with the whole “80s metal album cover painted on the side of a hookup van” aesthetic for Ragnarok.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/65 "2017-07-25T03:53:28Z")

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It seems kind of odd to me to see Hulk having a calm, reasoned discussion. If he’s calm enough to be sitting there just chatting, shouldn’t he be calm enough that he’s, well, a little less green?

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**Author:** ![bobkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@bobkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobkitty)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/66 "2017-07-25T11:01:24Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> It seems kind of odd to me to see Hulk having a calm, reasoned discussion. If he’s calm enough to be sitting there just chatting, shouldn’t he be calm enough that he’s, well, a little less green?

A spoiler addressed this:

After their fight, Thor finds out that Hulk doesn’t want to transform back into Banner because he’s enjoying the heck out of fighting in the gladiator ring. So much like Banner can always be angry and not transform into Hulk, Hulk can have times of calm and clarity without transforming into Banner.

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**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/67 "2017-07-25T15:46:23Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> I have to say, until now, I’ve found the Thor films to be the weakest of the MCU. But I kind of like how they went with the whole “80s metal album cover painted on the side of a hookup van” aesthetic for Ragnarok.

I agree completely. I think Marvel is doing exactly the right thing with Thor. I just hope that the movie is as fun as the trailer makes it look. That’s the hard part.

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/68 "2017-07-25T23:10:48Z")

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> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
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> Ugh. The new trailer shows that they’ve apparently done what I feared: turned Thor into comic relief. ☹
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> I may not go see it in the theaters.

Did you see the shot of Thor hero landing and rippling with electricity–including his eyes. That dude ain’t just comic relief.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/69 "2017-07-25T23:17:59Z")

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> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
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> Ugh. The new trailer shows that they’ve apparently done what I feared: turned Thor into comic relief. ☹
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> I may not go see it in the theaters.

The worst part of all the Thor movies is where he’s being super serious. The best part is where he’s having fun (like smashing coffee mugs).

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**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/70 "2017-07-26T09:55:54Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> It seems kind of odd to me to see Hulk having a calm, reasoned discussion. If he’s calm enough to be sitting there just chatting, shouldn’t he be calm enough that he’s, well, a little less green?

This is why we needed another Hulk solo film. At the end of the Ed Norton one, Banner was working on controlling the change regardless of his emotional state, going from involuntarily changing when stressed to voluntary change whenever. He succeeded (for the most part), as shown in **The Avengers** (Stark: You’ve really got a lid on it, don’t you?") but all we got was a throwaway line in the Avengers about always being angry. We never got to follow or see his progress.

The issue now for the character is he doesn’t **like** becoming the Hulk, despite the fact that the longer he stays the Hulk the better control he has. Rumor has it that he’s been the Hulk since **Avengers: Age of Ultron** until he appears in this, as it helped him avoid his feelings about Black Widow, giving his alter ego time to develop.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-ragnarok-trailer/784172/71 "2017-07-26T13:29:40Z")

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I think that it’s possible that Banner doesn’t like being the Hulk, but at the same time, the Hulk doesn’t like being Banner.

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