# Thor : the Dark World (spoilers are boxed)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 6, 2013, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-the-dark-world-spoilers-are-boxed/673276 "2013-11-06T21:55:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-the-dark-world-spoilers-are-boxed/673276/121 "2013-11-19T23:21:41Z")

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I thought it was decent, though I think it’s probably the weakest of the Avengers movie line. One thing that disappointed me was that they didn’t even make any effort on their technobabble this time. In the first Thor, it was clear that they had a science advisor, and paid attention to him, even though there’s only so far you can go in accommodating science in a movie like that. Here, though, it was just random sciency-sounding words that didn’t bear any relation whatsoever to what the characters were talking about.

Also, did it seem to anyone else that the Kursed effects were reminiscent of the Extremis effects from Iron Man 3? Is there a real connection there, or have the SFX guys just gotten themselves enamored with a new toy?

Also also, was the Cosmic Cube canonically one of the Infinity Gems in the comic books?

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-the-dark-world-spoilers-are-boxed/673276/122 "2013-11-19T23:36:23Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Also also, was the Cosmic Cube canonically one of the Infinity Gems in the comic books?

Nope, the Gems were five gems about the size of the last joint of your thumb, each a different color.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-the-dark-world-spoilers-are-boxed/673276/123 "2013-11-20T00:12:42Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> I thought it was decent, though I think it’s probably the weakest of the Avengers movie line.

Not even close. The first Thor and Iron Man 2 were worse.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-the-dark-world-spoilers-are-boxed/673276/124 "2013-11-20T00:21:38Z")

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> [@RikWriter](#):
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> Not even close. The first Thor and Iron Man 2 were worse.

I thought everybody but me was supposed to hate the Hulk movie? I must have missed an email… gotta check my spam folder.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-the-dark-world-spoilers-are-boxed/673276/125 "2013-11-20T00:28:17Z")

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> [@RikWriter](#):
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> Not even close. The first Thor and Iron Man 2 were worse.

I haven’t seen the Hulk movies. But I personally felt _Captain America_ was the weakest of the series. So it doesn’t look like there’s any consensus.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-the-dark-world-spoilers-are-boxed/673276/126 "2013-11-20T00:37:36Z")

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Saw it over the weekend. Not as good as \*Captain America \*, but still a fun popcorn movie.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-the-dark-world-spoilers-are-boxed/673276/127 "2013-11-20T02:35:28Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I haven’t seen the Hulk movies. But I personally felt _Captain America_ was the weakest of the series. So it doesn’t look like there’s any consensus.

I thought Captain America with the second best behind the Avengers.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-the-dark-world-spoilers-are-boxed/673276/128 "2013-11-20T02:59:56Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> But Blessed has experience _being_ a god. Or sounding like one.

Blessed may sound like one - I guess we could go with Morgan Freeman…to bad George is gone…

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**Author:** ![Bakhesh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Bakhesh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bakhesh)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-the-dark-world-spoilers-are-boxed/673276/129 "2013-11-20T09:34:15Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> Nope, the Gems were five gems about the size of the last joint of your thumb, each a different color.

Six. Mind, Power, Soul, Time, Space and Reality

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-the-dark-world-spoilers-are-boxed/673276/130 "2013-11-20T13:42:11Z")

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Don’t forget Bashful.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-the-dark-world-spoilers-are-boxed/673276/131 "2013-11-20T13:52:18Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> Blessed may sound like one - I guess we could go with Morgan Freeman…to bad George is gone…

I honestly don’t know who you’re referring to with _“George,”_ and so can’t help but imagine all sorts of folks in the role: George Peppard as a Viking god? George Harrison brawling in plate armor? George C. Scott up in the clouds?

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**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-the-dark-world-spoilers-are-boxed/673276/132 "2013-11-20T15:16:39Z")

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Plotwise, the Cosmic Cube and the Infinity Gems serve the same function, so the filmmakers combined two MacGuffins into one.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-the-dark-world-spoilers-are-boxed/673276/133 "2013-11-20T16:28:34Z")

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> Plotwise, the Cosmic Cube and the Infinity Gems serve the same function, so the filmmakers combined two MacGuffins into one.

Yeah, I figured as much. Filmmakers need to worry about conservation of exposition to a much greater degree than do comic book writers.

And **The Other Waldo Pepper** , when one’s discussing actors who could play a god, there’s only one “George” they could be referring to.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-the-dark-world-spoilers-are-boxed/673276/134 "2013-11-20T17:39:35Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> I honestly don’t know who you’re referring to with _“George,”_ and so can’t help but imagine all sorts of folks in the role: George Peppard as a Viking god? George Harrison brawling in plate armor? George C. Scott up in the clouds?

We can rule out George Foreman - he named his kids Thor and Loki.

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**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-the-dark-world-spoilers-are-boxed/673276/135 "2013-11-20T18:10:21Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> And **The Other Waldo Pepper** , when one’s discussing actors who could play a god, there’s only one “George” they could be referring to.

It really Burns me up that you don’t know 😉

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-the-dark-world-spoilers-are-boxed/673276/136 "2013-11-20T20:04:15Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> And **The Other Waldo Pepper** , when one’s discussing actors who could play a god, there’s only one “George” they could be referring to.

I agree, but Takei is still alive and well.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-the-dark-world-spoilers-are-boxed/673276/137 "2013-11-20T21:02:55Z")

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George Burns.

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-the-dark-world-spoilers-are-boxed/673276/138 "2013-11-20T21:37:10Z")

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I really wasn’t expecting to like it very much but my husband couldn’t live without seeing it on the big screen - I thought it was a scream. (Although, while fun, any scene without both Thor and Loki in it was only half as much fun. Missed opportunities, filmmakers.)

Granted, it was a big mess. But I really thought they managed to shoot and edit a really confusing concept (the portals) in such a way that it made total sense and really worked on screen. That isn’t necessarily easy to do.

Also you know I loved the Cap cameo. You know how I feel about him.

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**Author:** ![The\_Man\_In\_Black](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@The\_Man\_In\_Black](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Man_In_Black)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-the-dark-world-spoilers-are-boxed/673276/139 "2013-11-21T03:10:13Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> Plus, an important lesson from Iron Man 2 and Thor 2: they’re perfectly willing to swap out an actor between a movie and its sequel.

Are you saying an actor was swapped in Thor 2? Who was changed?

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thor-the-dark-world-spoilers-are-boxed/673276/140 "2013-11-21T03:11:08Z")

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> [@The\_Man\_In\_Black](#):
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> Are you saying an actor was swapped in Thor 2? Who was changed?

Robin Hood.

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